WWYD regarding a false accusation?

[old pig]

ppl are inclined to believe the person who says “something” first...I was in a situation...not accused of rape tho...a few things first...even tho I initiated the encounter there was a moment where I was teasing her stomach/thighs w/ kisses and she literally took my head and guided it to her p*ssy...and it should also be clear that I actually stopped things even tho she wanted to continue...but we were both shytfaced and the effects of the alcohol were getting to me...also she had a BF who she was cheating on which is why things probably progressed the way they did

long story short...the next morning (she stayed the nite) she went to the bathroom to freshen up so I could take her home then came downstairs complaining about the hickeys I’d left on her chest and started complaining about her BF finding out and talking about how jealous he’d get and that he’d probably hit her and it led to her crying and shyt...just an ugly ass scene...I was still hungover and just wanted to drop her home...my callous attitude didn’t make things better

dropped her home...told her I’d call her to check up on her situation w/ dude...got home...went back to sleep...woke up a bit sober...called...all my shyt went to voicemail...left a few messages...decided just to leave it alone and not press the issue further...after a week (we had several mutual friends that were actually doing business together...throwing this in kind of late)...a good friend of mine told me that he heard her telling ppl that I was aggressive w/ her in a way that implied that I took advantage of her...she had been telling ppl this all week and he also said that a main friend of ours was going to eventually confront me about it...so I actually went and spoke to that friend cuz I legit respected her and had a couple of business dealings w/ her as well

she seemed very skeptical still even tho I explained exactly what happened and that shorty was lying to cover her bases w/ her boyfriend when he saw the hickeys...her “justification” for believing/taking her side was “why didn’t I tell [her]?” immediately...my response was why am I obligated to tell her about any casual sexual encounter I have??? just never saw eye to eye after that and the friendship fell apart

incidentally the chic who accused me of the shyt ended up selling p*ssy on craigslist a few years after that situation...she ended up working for another friend of mine who was an escort...I dodged a bullet in more ways than one not fukking w/ her that nite...if I hadn’t stopped things and we’d fukked...she might’ve lied and said she was raped just to avoid getting in trouble w/ her BF

*edit*

also just to be clear...she bought/brought over the liquor too that got us fukked up...I literally had no alcohol in the house @ the time

 

[Ciggavelli]

Definitely lawyer up. My sister's husband was accused of a sex crime, and it completely ruined his life (and the lives of his family). He got kicked out of college, he lost his job, he even got kicked out of his church

He's been all over the local news in his area. He hasn't been to trial yet, and the accusation was made like 2 years ago. He's been unable to legally clear his name for 2 years. These types of accusations are very serious and will fukk up your life. The only thing you can do is get a good lawyer and follow their advice

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

hard stats are hard to come by because a lot of jurisdictions don’t keep records on plea deals, but in this article, a DA says she would rather show an alleged victim the prosecutor’s office is willing to fight even if the case is weak.

A Prosecutor’s Misguided Attempt To Get More Sexual Assault Convictions - The Appeal


Can’t remember the name of the paper I read, but there’s a good academic study out there that gets into the heads of prosecutors. Prosecutors aren’t seeking to prove factual guilt but rather they are incentivized to prove legal guilt, which is different from how lay people determine guilt.

Hard stats for what I asked are easy to come by. Even with a plea deal, the person has to be charged.

How many years old rape cases are they prosecuting?

 

[paperbag]

I promise that if I was a mod on this site, I would ban every single last one of these chics except for @HarlemHottie and @Speaking Womanese

Posts like this is the reason the breh has @Houston911 posting this for him instead of posting it from his account.

Just so eager to jump up and label a breh a rapist with literally no proof

I didn't label him a rapist, multiple of his friends did.
You want me banned because other brehs on this site have admitted to rape?

ppl are inclined to believe the person who says “something” first...I was in a situation...not accused of rape tho...a few things first...even tho I initiated the encounter there was a moment where I was teasing her stomach/thighs w/ kisses and she literally took my head and guided it to her p*ssy...and it should also be clear that I actually stopped things even tho she wanted to continue...but we were both shytfaced and the effects of the alcohol were getting to me...also she had a BF who she was cheating on which is why things probably progressed the way they did

long story short...the next morning (she stayed the nite) she went to the bathroom to freshen up so I could take her home then came downstairs complaining about the hickeys I’d left on her chest and started complaining about her BF finding out and talking about how jealous he’d get and that he’d probably hit her and it led to her crying and shyt...just an ugly ass scene...I was still hungover and just wanted to drop her home...my callous attitude didn’t make things better

dropped her home...told her I’d call her to check up on her situation w/ dude...got home...went back to sleep...woke up a bit sober...called...all my shyt went to voicemail...left a few messages...decided just to leave it alone and not press the issue further...after a week (we had several mutual friends that were actually doing business together...throwing this in kind of late)...a good friend of mine told me that he heard her telling ppl that I was aggressive w/ her in a way that implied that I took advantage of her...she had been telling ppl this all week and he also said that a main friend of ours was going to eventually confront me about it...so I actually went and spoke to that friend cuz I legit respected her and had a couple of business dealings w/ her as well

she seemed very skeptical still even tho I explained exactly what happened and that shorty was lying to cover her bases w/ her boyfriend when he saw the hickeys...her “justification” for believing/taking her side was “why didn’t I tell [her]?” immediately...my response was why am I obligated to tell her about any casual sexual encounter I have??? just never saw eye to eye after that and the friendship fell apart

incidentally the chic who accused me of the shyt ended up selling p*ssy on craigslist a few years after that situation...she ended up working for another friend of mine who was an escort...I dodged a bullet in more ways than one not fukking w/ her that nite...if I hadn’t stopped things and we’d fukked...she might’ve lied and said she was raped just to avoid getting in trouble w/ her BF

*edit*

also just to be clear...she bought/brought over the liquor too that got us fukked up...I literally had no alcohol in the house @ the time

How does a person that's "shytfaced" consent? It's not fair, it's not fun, but hopefully y'all will start to understand. Not calling you a rapist by the way.

 

[old pig]

How does a person that's "shytfaced" consent? It's not fair, it's not fun, but hopefully y'all will start to understand. Not calling you a rapist by the way.

you can’t so I didn’t interpret it as an accusation...no intercourse ever took place between us...yes we were both shytfaced...yes we both did things indicating sexual interest in one another...so no...technically neither of us consented to anything...but I stopped it...neither of us were @ fault of anything until she lied about the encounter to hide what actually happened...hopefully you can understand that

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I didn't label him a rapist, multiple of his friends did.
You want me banned because other brehs on this site have admitted to rape?


How does a person that's "shytfaced" consent? It's not fair, it's not fun, but hopefully y'all will start to understand. Not calling you a rapist by the way.

So if he's shytfaced and so is she... it's his fault?

 

[old pig]

So if he's shytfaced and so is she... it's his fault?

the crazy thing is I was feeling slightly nauseous enough to stop and she wanted to continue...I low key think she was upset and/or embarrassed...she was 21 and I don’t think she’d ever been in a position where a guy told her “let’s stop”

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

the crazy thing is I was feeling slightly nauseous enough to stop and she wanted to continue...I low key think she was upset and/or embarrassed...she was 21 and I don’t think she’d ever been in a position where a guy told her “let’s stop”

But let @paperbag tell it, you did something wrong

 

[old pig]

But let @paperbag tell it, you did something wrong

ehh I’ve been on the internet long enough to realize some ppl are interested in honest discourse and some are just here to parrot talking points

 

[SadimirPutin]

First thing your friend needs to do is get a lawyer.

Secind thing to do is follow the instructions of that lawyer down to the exact detail

 

[Cat piss martini]

why would the other friend be worried?
they ran a train on that broad?
if so he's gonna dime the homie
out to cover his own ass.
dude needs to keep a lawyer
on speed dial because if she come
for him it's gonna get messy.
any text,nudes asap of her
should be kept in arms reach
for his lawyer.

 

[HarlemHottie]

I was wondering why i got tagged @neotheflyingone , but i actually was in a situation like this.

I was coerced. I don't say raped bc i didn't say no, there was no time. I was messing with his friend when he just walked in, dikk out. It was crazy. I didn't report it bc the whole situation was so unclear, on both sides. We was ALL drunk. I only told my friend cuz he was trynna holla at her.

 

[Arris]

I was wondering why i got tagged @neotheflyingone , but i actually was in a situation like this.

I was coerced. I don't say raped bc i didn't say no, there was no time. I was messing with his friend when he just walked in, dikk out. It was crazy. I didn't report it bc the whole situation was so unclear, on both sides. We was ALL drunk. I only told my friend cuz he was trynna holla at her.

he's a creep at best

dudes with common sense don't assume a girl is open to something like that. yeah he was drunk and wouldn't have done that sober but his drunk self lowered his inhibitions enough to try it anyway; regardless of your feelings.

there's some nuance to that situation to where I can't definitively lean one way or the other considering you didn't deny him and witness his compliance or reaction to being told no.

 

[TripleAgent]

If you decide to call rape
We got the little hooker on tape

- Ice Cube

 

[HarlemHottie]

he's a creep at best

dudes with common sense don't assume a girl is open to something like that. yeah he was drunk and wouldn't have done that sober but his drunk self lowered his inhibitions enough to try it anyway; regardless of your feelings.

there's some nuance to that situation to where I can't definitively lean one way or the other considering you didn't deny him and witness his compliance or reaction to being told no.

Exactly. Tbf, i couldn't really talk at the time, but i chalked that one up to the game. You never know how you'll react in the moment.

Plus, I'd had a similar (sober) situation where it worked out swimmingly.

The difference was the lack of communication/ consent. But i consider it a gray zone situation.