Xbox 720 = $500, always connected, no BC

[daze23]

it's already inferior to the PS4, but since they are using similar setups, we shouldn't get fukked over on most ports now.

MS can't just changeup the hardware setup at this point without a major delay, so it is what it is.

the always online DRM will be huge if true. I can see EA requiring an always online setup for their games though. And the always online DRM being mandatory on the xbox does lead credence to the rumors of blocking used games as well.

what does any of that have to do with what he said about this being a software issue?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

it's already inferior to the PS4, but since they are using similar setups, we shouldn't get fukked over on most ports now.

MS can't just changeup the hardware setup at this point without a major delay, so it is what it is.

the always online DRM will be huge if true. I can see EA requiring an always online setup for their games though. And the always online DRM being mandatory on the xbox does lead credence to the rumors of blocking used games as well.

Explain how. What will gddr5 ram allow the ps4 to do that the Xbox won't?

 

[Rekkapryde]

so why do you bring it up?

because it is MANDATORY on the next xbox, not REQUIRED on the PS4. With MS probably doing the proprietary hard drive again, of course they'd want you to do it with mandatory installs to force you to buy bigger hard drives.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

because it is MANDATORY on the next xbox, not REQUIRED on the PS4. With MS probably doing the proprietary hard drive again, of course they'd want you to do it with mandatory installs to force you to buy bigger hard drives.

The same rumor that said they will be manditory also said it will come with a huge hardrive.

Most ps3 games required installs yet I heard no complaining from you 3cepts

 

[Rekkapryde]

Explain how. What will gddr5 ram allow the ps4 to do that the Xbox won't?

It's not just the ram but the cpu power as well. Because of built in kinect, MS had to dedicate more of the cpu resources to account for that. You can look at the VGleaks breakdown of the cpu setup in both consoles for more info my friend.


more computational power for games plus better faster loading ram = better for games. That's not up for debate and it's not something MS can just update or change on a whim.

 

[Rekkapryde]

The same rumor that said they will be manditory also said it will come with a huge hardrive.

Most ps3 games required installs yet I heard no complaining from you 3cepts

we didn't have to use proprietary hard drives and the game installs were not for the full game.

 

[Rekkapryde]

If having a camera, installing games, and being "always on" is a problem, you shouldn't be buying a ps4

all 3 are optional on the ps4 in order to play a game whereas it is REQUIRED on the Xbox...but you don't see the difference?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

It's not just the ram but the cpu power as well. Because of built in kinect, MS had to dedicate more of the cpu resources to account for that. You can look at the VGleaks breakdown of the cpu setup in both consoles for more info my friend.


more computational power for games plus better faster loading ram = better for games. That's not up for debate and it's not something MS can just update or change on a whim.

Nope. Rumors say the Xbox will have 2 GPUs

And I'm not asking for technical jargon from vgleaks. I'm asking rekka to explain how these differences apply to real life performance.

 

[daze23]

because it is MANDATORY on the next xbox, not REQUIRED on the PS4.

I don't think you can be so sure about either one of those things

ultimately I think people should want games that require an install in the next gen

 

[StraxStrax]

I hope they launch on the same day

 

[MeachTheMonster]

all 3 are optional on the ps4 in order to play a game whereas it is REQUIRED on the Xbox...but you don't see the difference?

Are you really not going hook up your PSkinect?

Are you gonna disconect your ps4 from the Internet when you are not using it?

Did you not install most of your ps3 games?


I know what required means. But you act as if just because Sony doesnt say "required" that you won't have the same exact experience. You will have an always on console that has a camera attached to it, and you will be installing games.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

we didn't have to use proprietary hard drives and the game installs were not for the full game.

Nope they just took an hour to install.

 

[CurrencyChase]

Nope they just took an hour to install.

you sound angry breh. Now you grasping at anything to make you feel good after hearing this nuclear bomb. You can believe the specs from the experts because it hurts too bad, so you want people to explain it to you because we don't know as much as the expert. Thats way, you cannot explain it as well as the experts..so, this fact fuels your delusion.. So you can feel good for just a bit longer... Its like taking a hit of heroine to get away from reality.. Mental escape.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

you sound angry breh. Now you grasping at anything to make you feel good after hearing this nuclear bomb. You can believe the specs from the experts because it hurts too bad, so you want people to explain it to you because we don't know as much as the expert. Thats way, you cannot explain it as well as the experts..so, this fact fuels your delusion.. So you can feel good for just a bit longer... Its like taking a hit of heroine to get away from reality.. Mental escape.

Nope. Not one person here can explain how the specs will effect the performance divide between the two systems. Yet y'all are all running around like you know.

I don't know, do you?

If the leaked specs are correct. Then what will the advantages do for ps4 that the Xbox can't do. And how will the Xbox having two APUs effect this difference?

 

[Rekkapryde]

Are you really not going hook up your PSkinect?

Are you gonna disconect your ps4 from the Internet when you are not using it?

Did you not install most of your ps3 games?


I know what required means. But you act as if just because Sony doesnt say "required" that you won't have the same exact experience. You will have an always on console that has a camera attached to it, and you will be installing games.

I travel alot for work and sometimes the internet at these hotels are horrid, so I play offline. So yes that always online functionality would be a dealbreaker for me.

And the nextbox will not have 2 GPUs...dunno where you got that foolishness. Both Sony and MS are going with AMD because of their GPU/CPU combo chip.