Xbox One frees up extra computing power for developers :win:

[Kamikaze Revy]

I have SNES games that destroy current gen games. Graphics aren't everything. Arguing who has the more powerful console is pointless. Make better games and stop releasing broken garbage that has to be patched 12 times before it's even playable.

 

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ANGEL RIVERA
2 days ago (edited)




My poor girlfriend god bless her just got me an xbox one for xmas and i gotta say that i have been really pissed off at how slow it is. Been wanting one in what seems like forever now and i hate the damn thing cause its so slow. I don't have it in me to tell her cause she paid so much money for it. If anyone at Microsoft is listening, do the right thing and fix this damn issue already. thousands if not millions of people are upset over this. Just isn't fair. Fix it....PLEASE!. People work to hard these days to end up with a shytty product

 

[MeachTheMonster]

They do, and it restricts content and launch dates. I never explicitly stated performance Meach. You're the one who wants it to be that way but the elephant doesn't forget.

Has nothing to do with content either. Quit talking in circles.

You sure did move the goalposts. You asked for proof of the PS4's superiority graphically over the XB1, and got exactly that. What was your response? A change in tune. Suddenly, you did not want PS4 information, but the leftover XB1 information.

The goalposts have your fingerprints all over them.




Meach backed down from another one.



PS4 being stronger, it is no longer equal to the XB1 but above it, in another league of it's own.

Fanboy nonsense

Not in it when code is locked and game is gold = not in release. Print that one out and study it.



It runs bad because the team who made it lacks competence. I think you should apply for a job there.

More nonsense

No, in fact, that isn't true. They are based on the same architecture but not designed the same. Microsoft chose a design that features the ESRAM at the expense of GPU power, and Sony chose a design that fitted more shader cores, compute unites, and ROPs onto the GPU.

To quote DF yet again, on their XB1 specs article:

"Sony has used the die-space for additional compute units and ROPs (32 vs. 16 in One), while Microsoft has budgeted for ESRAM and data move engines instead."

And once again you prove you have no idea what your talking about. The GPU is the same design. The "die-space" DF is referring to is the ENTIRE APU.

"both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 are based on Radeon GCN architecture"

And here we have it! Another Meach goalpost move! From "you're lying!" to, "why prove it, you'll just lie!" to "prove it". What happens when I try and get down into it? It HAS to be a developer! Because developers jobs are to mull over specifications in the journalism world right?

It has to be a developer because a developer would know what they are talking about

Oh Meach, you're such a bad troll. But I'll prove it right and shut you down again.

Ars Technica, a popular and well respected independent website, glosses over both hardware.[/url]

The Verge, one of the more popular gadget sites, glosses over the hardware.

You can find more detailed specs sheet at IGN, complete with sources.[1][2]

From your article:

The spec question gets a lot more complicated when looking between the Xbox One and the Playstation 4. The two consoles are surprisingly similar on the inside, sporting the same CPU with only a minor speed improvement on the Xbox One, or so it's been rumored. Their graphics chips are also quite similar, but here the PlayStation 4 pulls ahead: though the Xbox's GPU is clocked faster, the PS4's GPU is widely reported to include 50 percent more compute units. Microsoft reportedly won't let games take advantage of every bit of the Xbox's power either — some computing and graphics performance is permanently allotted to other tasks. The PS4 could do something similar, but if it is, details on it haven't come out yet.

That all seems to be giving Sony's console the graphical edge for now. In real world terms, that's mainly boiling down to a matter of resolution: one of the consoles' biggest launch titles, Call of Duty: Ghosts, is running at 1080p on the PS4, but only 720p on the Xbox One. It's likely that this immediate different will diminish as developers get acclimated to Microsoft's new console, but it's a clear sign of which is likely to be the better performer in the long run. The Wii U's graphics, of course, don't look nearly as good as either of its competitors, but it is able to run at 1080p.

The Wii-u is the one that would be considered not in the same "league"

All Devs and non fanboys keep saying the systems are similar and "THE PERFORMACE GAP WILL DIMINISH" which is all I said.

You have yet to show one dev saying that the PS4 is a great deal more powerful.

You do know frame performance is totaled in averaged for consoles right? The average is, give or take, a frame at most, on your overall experience.

Secondly, already quoted the graphical differences that lie in PS4's favor. You can close your eyes and claps your ears but that won't make it any less true.


Ensuring the PS4 will have the stronger console for the duration of the generation. Thus, providing the improved graphics as I stated earlier beyond the Xbox One alongside similar framerates.

Slightly Better framerates on Xbox= "similar"
Slightly better graphics on PS4= "a whole nother league"

Sony Stans

Except I've already shown the DF quotes where yes, there are differences on the big screen, like scaling resolutions () and less density/effects the XB1 has to suffer with to maintain framerate.

No there is nothing that says anything about density or effects being missing. Only in gta it mentions lens flare. That's it. You're trying to turn that into something major while also trying to pretend the framerate difference doesn't exist.

Your wheels are falling off and you're trying to steer this into a whole different direction. If you can't stay on topic, bytchBeGone. This is a No Spin Zone.

All you've done is spin lie and deflect

 

[Rekkapryde]

I see the WOAT still woatin'

 

[Rice N Beans]

Has nothing to do with content either. Quit talking in circles.

Except I'm not, because that is what I said very early on.

Fanboy nonsense




More nonsense

Caught moving those goalposts and your defense falls. You got exactly what you wanted.

And once again you prove you have no idea what your talking about. The GPU is the same design.

No, if fact, it isn't.

Let me help you:

"both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 are based on Radeon GCN architecture"

Which is what I said. Same architecture, but the design is different. Microsoft lowballed the GPU and Sony gave it more power. Differently designed GPU based on the same GPU architecture.

It has to be a developer because a developer would know what they are talking about

The specs are ripped straight from the boards and align with the company reveals. Performance is also easy to analyze due to the numbers and x86 based arch that resembles consumer APUs. By denying these analysis you're pretty much denying the hardware inside is really what it is.

From your article:


The Wii-u is the one that would be considered not in the same "league"

Of course. Wii-U is low , XB1 mid, PS4 high.

All Devs and non fanboys keep saying the systems are similar and "THE PERFORMACE GAP WILL DIMINISH" which is all I said.

Except it won't. The hardware difference is too strong in Sony's favor.

You have yet to show one dev saying that the PS4 is a great deal more powerful.

I already did. You got exactly what you wanted. And now you're focusing on the rest of the article which has nothing of what you asked. Ask for PS4 information and harp there's no XB1 information brehs.

Slightly Better framerates on Xbox= "similar"
Slightly better graphics on PS4= "a whole nother league"

Yes. The frame differences would be less than 1% overall during the completion of the game. Including things such as XB1 particle flops and PS4 CPU drops.

And yes, the better PS4 hardware enables the better PS4 GPU to have better graphics.

No there is nothing that says anything about density or effects being missing. Only in gta it mentions lens flare. That's it. You're trying to turn that into something major while also trying to pretend the framerate difference doesn't exist.

Let me quote DF again, giving you exactly what you want again:

" the more locations we visited, the more it became clear that PlayStation 4 does possess the advantage in terms of detail level"
"...the density of vegetation is clearly a cut above on the Sony platform."

Stock, lock, barrel.

All you've done is spin lie and deflect

All I've done is provided the evidence and you're flopping around other subjects.



GG, Meach. If you want more I'll gladly take it to PM any time you wish. I'll save you the public thrashing provided you can stay on topic.

 

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