Y'all boy Lupe Fiasco, male version of Azealia Banks, on Twitter

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There is @ the bold.

White supremacist groups encourage joining law enforcement, which objectively is smart to do. Should we encourage more black people to join the force? Would more black cops help? Ain't a black cop get killed in Dallas? We often say the black cops are worse than the white ones. Is the alternative no police at all? That can't be it.

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I dunno man.

For instance, I don't think they showed up at the scene to kill Tamir Rice. I think that was more due to bad training, lack of poise and of course the conditioning that draws up images of boogeymen men when you even hear the word "black" over the scanner.
There's a shytload of black cops, that's not the issue.
 

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Lupe be doin next level trollin. I fukk wit dude on a rap level but dude's arrogance is of the meter. Lol. Dude is just a natural a$$hole.
And he's purposely ambiguous and cryptic so there's no clear thought, and you can't pin him to any direct statement/meaning. He's a fukk boy.
 

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He's not c00ning. He's speaking on a multitude of issues in compressed down small sentences. These serious issues that are happening don't have simple remedies because there's a lot moving parts at play.
Though it could be worded better, he kinda saying some really shyt. :yeshrug:

why did these posts get daps?
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I agree with his statement though... what are you doing or going to where you need a gun?

what you doing or where going are non-factors when bearing arms is your legal right and you're licensed to do so. your life should not be put in peril for exercising your rights as a law abiding citizen. it is categorically not a bad decision to enjoy your liberties within the parameters of the law, "land of the free" right? or does that only apply to some? there are a multitude of reasons as to why a nikka may want to carry a gun, most likely for protection, but it could be because he likes the fukking weight of the thing, all that don't matter if it is done so legally.

whether people/civilians should have the right to carry guns is a whole other different argument.

I agree with everything he said, except the last one. Bad policing and awful decision making can be to blame for these things occuring too, is that really so inconceivable? Not saying to just lay the blame there and totally dismiss the possibility of racism, because that is stinkin thinkin too, of course racism can be a factor as well but why is racism usually the only conclusion that we seem to draw in these situations? Unless there really is some hidden hand, aryan brotherhood masterplan going on then I don't think every single time these heinous cop killings happen that they're always just an act of racism to kill black people. I think that's what he's trying to say, sometimes the cop is just a poorly trained fukking idiot who panicked on the trigger

the element of racism has factual, historical background. cops being poorly trained is certainly a factor but you should ask yourself if cops being poorly trained was the root source of the problem, how do they manage to conduct adequate policing for white and privileged individuals and not do so when it comes to black people? or does their poor training only go into overload when dealing with black individuals? and surely, you could try to navigate around the issue with a watered down argument like "well, its not the same cops taking part in these tragic events/different cops etc etc" but then i'd point out to you that police brutality is by far and large incredibly disproportionate towards black people, which again would make the question valid? how do they manage to police some and not others if its a matter of "poor training"

police departments have quotas regarding how many young black men should be stopped and searched, that is but a simple example, but sufficient enough to illustrate that black people are positioned as "enemies" to law enforcement. racism, and cacs being soulless devils, are still the common denominator of the problem here.
 

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This idealistic not practical. My view of the world isn't negative, the world, in fact, is negative. It's not a viewpoint or an ideology, it's an actual fact. Now, where I live is nice, I don't need to carry guns outside, but that's not the reality for a lot of individuals. And it's the legal right for people in America to bare arms, given they follow the proper procedures to obtain them. Saying all people not assigned to uphold the law, shouldn't be allowed to go outside with guns, is unlawful on top of being irresponsible.
The world isn't negative. It's not positive. It's a mix of everything. If you think that there are more negative things happening out there than positive then yeah your viewpoint is negative. There's no way to quantify it one way or another.

Now...since when does gun control mean gun abolition?
 

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The world isn't negative. It's not positive. It's a mix of everything. If you think that there are more negative things happening out there than positive then yeah your viewpoint is negative. There's no way to quantify it one way or another.

Now...since when does gun control mean gun abolition?
The world is negative inherently because people die, rob, rape, kill, argue, fight, have financial problems etc. Of course there's positive, because there'd be no such thing as negative if positives didn't exist. I'm not saying the world has no positives but negativity is what this world thrives on.

Who said gun abolition? The right to BARE ARMS is legal. You saying they shouldn't go outside with them takes away that human right.
 

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Lupe always been a fugazi ass nikka when it comes to race. Instead of keeping his mouth shut, he tries to appease his cac fanbase and play devil's advocate. We just enjoy his music.
 

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I am a Lupe fan, but I cannot agree. Problem with what he is saying is that there are times when someone is unarmed and still getting killed, or restrained with no possible way to reach for their weapon and still getting killed. And if you look at the stats you can't say racism isn't a factor, but also, people say being a cop is a high stress job, but if you are a doctor people do die in the er and sometimes its nobodies fault, but if people died on their watch constantly in situations that seem to be avoidable there would be some consequences, I don't wanna hear that its a mistake shyt, even if sometimes it is, how many mistakes that lead to someone dying are you gonna give a pass? I mean people are dying you can't just write that off on some oh well shyt.
 

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And he's purposely ambiguous and cryptic so there's no clear thought, and you can't pin him to any direct statement/meaning. He's a fukk boy.
This is what I said several pages ago and in another thread :dead::

shyt, I don't even agree with a lot of shyt he says (I don't even understand what this argument was about on Twitter, too ambiguous)

He intentionally does this everytime. For example:

I can't take this nikka seriously on social media.

nikka DELIBERATELY says/does slick shyt or posts something out of context, JUST to get a rise out of people so he can shyt on them with his main point.

Just ask Freddie Gibbs :iseeu:
 

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so you just gonna ignore that gnome ass nikka saying things

"cops don't respect us cuz we don't respect ourselves"

and what he pulled on The Blacker the berry with the "what about Black on Black crime"

The initial backlash from that article went from him talking about HIS background and upbringing around street life and then directly into the statement everybody got mad about. It's real easy to make it seem like he was speaking to black people en mass, when you edit it like that, but he was addressing the people in his community.

Same thing at the end of blacker the berry, he addressed why HE'S a hypocrite for promoting/participating in black death...I think that it's perfectly valid to address both sides of that equation, especially when the cops can't help but know what areas are more active in that respect than others. Had he expressed those sentiments in two different songs nobody would have flinched. It's cops/whites that aren't going to respect you WHATEVER you do or put on, but I've seen cops be criticized for stepping aside and letting nikkas bang it out only to stop by when it's time to pick up bodies as opposed to actually policing shyt..it's a complex situation.

So we're supposed to keep having an open mind and a sympathetic ear because white america continues to condition whites to be predisposed to behave in ways that are racist and discriminatory? That is super white privilege. You're bugging.

Not at all, just that I rarely hear that addressed by anybody, because it seems to me, the passive, background qualities of racism are far more dangerous and at the root of these situations. I wasn't sympathetic toward the cops that killed Tamir Rice but I didn't think what happened was a matter of character or intention, just that it was wrong and they should be held accountable.

This shyt with Philando..

I'm hearing that there is audio of the cop saying he's gonna pull the car over because he had a wide nose like a robbery suspect from two days earlier.

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I am a Lupe fan, but I cannot agree. Problem with what he is saying is that there are times when someone is unarmed and still getting killed, or restrained with no possible way to reach for their weapon and still getting killed. And if you look at the stats you can't say racism isn't a factor, but also, people say being a cop is a high stress job, but if you are a doctor people do die in the er and sometimes its nobodies fault, but if people died on their watch constantly in situations that seem to be avoidable there would be some consequences, I don't wanna hear that its a mistake shyt, even if sometimes it is, how many mistakes that lead to someone dying are you gonna give a pass? I mean people are dying you can't just write that off on some oh well shyt.

Mistake or not you still gotta be held accountable.
 
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