Y'all boy Lupe Fiasco, male version of Azealia Banks, on Twitter

[raw613]

Mistake or not you still gotta be held accountable.

Exactly and you can't give out the message that you don't value the lives of the community and expect anyone to want to cooperate or respect your authority

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

Not at all, just that I rarely hear that addressed by anybody, because it seems to me, the passive, background qualities of racism are far more dangerous and at the root of these situations. I wasn't sympathetic toward the cops that killed Tamir Rice but I didn't think what happened was a matter of character or intention, just that it was wrong and they should be held accountable.

This shyt with Philando..

I'm hearing that there is audio of the cop saying he's gonna pull the car over because he had a wide nose like a robbery suspect from two days earlier.

The hell are you talking about? The quality of your character and intentions are THE MAIN factors that influence and determine the quality of your decisions. Right and wrong almost always boil down to the character of the person combined with their intent in any given situation at any given time. They aren't separate things. The decision is the byproduct of the combination of those two factors. If nobody was able to measure or at least evaluate someone's character and what their intentions were then we'd all be like children who can't discern anything. The main part of growing up and becoming an adult is the ability to understand good or bad character and the intentions that follow them which lead to the decisions that make up a person's life and define their actions. Life 101. It's that simple. You may want to say it's more complex, and on different levels it may be, but when you're a public servant and you have authority and jurisdiction over the lives and actions of others, you are automatically held to a higher degree of responsibility of character and intent. When you fukk up because you didn't uphold that, you should be handled accordingly.

 

[Ghpstface]

this is stupid

For real some people dont have the luxury of being able to sit in the house all day writing poems about robots & skateboards

 

[JMurder]

The world is negative inherently because people die, rob, rape, kill, argue, fight, have financial problems etc. Of course there's positive, because there'd be no such thing as negative if positives didn't exist. I'm not saying the world has no positives but negativity is what this world thrives on.

How depressing this post is. The majority of my world doesn't deal with this and I work in a prison.

Who said gun abolition? The right to BARE ARMS is legal. You saying they shouldn't go outside with them takes away that human right.

Why don't you post the full amendment. Let's not be half accurate in this debate

 

[Mowgli]

In that video at some point you can hear whoever it was spazzing out scream "fukking n!ggers"...I don't know who that was, but I know that cop in particularly who pulled the trigger was very distraught like he knew he fukked up and was blaming his mistake on the person he shot on some why you make me do that? type shyt.

Time stamp.

 

[FreshAIG]

How depressing this post is. The majority of my world doesn't deal with this and I work in a prison.


Why don't you post the full amendment. Let's not be half accurate in this debate

The majority of the world does deal with this, what are you talking about? All those things literally go on every second of everyday all over the world. And in jail, and nothing much goes on there period, simply because it's a far more controlled environment and with less human interaction. Using that as a template doesn't make much sense.

In the United States, which has an English common law tradition, a longstanding right to keep and bear arms was recognized prior to the creation of a written national constitution.[16] Today, the right is specifically protected by the US Constitution and many state constitutions,[17] which grant a right to own arms for individual use and to bear these same arms both for personal protection and for use in a militia.[18] The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution reads:

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Yeah just proved my point more. Not sure what you were going for there.

 

[SunZoo]

The hell are you talking about?

I didn't say that character and intent don't matter when determining quality of decisions just that in that instance it seemed like a bad decision more so than a hate crime. They needed to be held accountable regardless and that didn't happen.

Time stamp.

Around 3:30

 

[Cadillac]

The initial backlash from that article went from him talking about HIS background and upbringing around street life and then directly into the statement everybody got mad about. It's real easy to make it seem like he was speaking to black people en mass, when you edit it like that, but he was addressing the people in his community.
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I dont know where you got that he was only talking about his community
Billboard Cover: Kendrick Lamar on Ferguson, Leaving Iggy Azalea Alone and Why 'We're in the Last Days'

the pragapraph that starts with "Lamar spent much of his childhood on the streets" is them talking about the police. The question that he responded to was about killings from all over not just his community. And he responded with the "we gotta respect ourselves" nowhere in that interview do you see him saying he just talking about his community.

and even if he is talking about just his community its still is a dumb statement.
Cops will still fukk with Black people even if they do respect themselves. Many of these cops are some racist MFs that could care less if you do respect yourself, thats not gonna stop them from fukking with you, beating you, stopping, or worse killing you.


I dont really listen to kendrick so I'll address the TBTB later becasue its been months since I heard that shyt I 'll have to go back and listen to it.

 

[SirBiatch]

And he's purposely ambiguous and cryptic so there's no clear thought, and you can't pin him to any direct statement/meaning. He's a fukk boy.

Just like his successor Kendrick

 

[JMurder]

The majority of the world does deal with this, what are you talking about? All those things literally go on every second of everyday all over the world. And in jail, and nothing much goes on there period, simply because it's a far more controlled environment and with less human interaction. Using that as a template doesn't make much sense.


Yeah just proved my point more. Not sure what you were going for there.

You clearly didn't read my post. I said the majority of MY world doesn't deal with this. I'm pretty sure the majority of your world doesn't either. I'd say a majority of the developed/civilized world doesn't deal with negativity of that magnitude on an even semi regular basis. But whatever, I won't debate your bleak view of the world.

And as far as the amendment goes..."A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

You don't think that had anything to do with the amendment at all

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

I didn't say that character and intent don't matter when determining quality of decisions just that in that instance it seemed like a bad decision more so than a hate crime. They needed to be held accountable regardless and that didn't happen.



Around 3:30

Just because someone is a racist or has racial bias/tendencies doesn't mean that every crime or act they commit against a minority is because they intend to commit a hate crime. I never said anything about a hate crime so I don't even know why you're bringing it up. Every time a cop kills an unarmed black person, I'm not a simpleton who automatically boils it down to it being a hate crime and I don't think most black people beleive that either. What is evident is the fact that white officers have an overwhelming tendency to ignore standard protocols and procedures when dealing with people of color. Their normal methods of operation and how they should be policing are totally disregarded, manipulated and twisted when dealing with the black community as opposed to how they deal with whites. That's evident in everyday life. I can guarantee you that before they shot and killed Tamir Rice that day, they dealt with black suspects in a certain way and white suspects in another, much milder way just like the majority of cops do. To marginalize it as a bad situation or an error of judgement in the moment or take it to the opposite end of the spectrum and inflate it as a hate crime is choosing not to see what it is.

Racism, intent and character are all interrelated and depend on each other to manifest. When individual officers have predisposed conceptions about how to treat and handle black people unfairly and it is widely accepted and unchecked, it creates an environment for systematic hatred. People that hate others for superficial reasons that they don't even understand themselves are still haters. They still will jump at the chance to talk shyt, talk down, or mistreat the person they hate on for any reason no matter what. It doesn't matter that they don't know why they hate them, it's become habitual for them to do so. And guess what? People who do that lack character and have ill intentions. It's the exact same thing with the police. But guess what? These people have the authority to take your life and have the resources and protocols to find any reason to do so. You can't keep saying the shyt you're saying with blanketed contempt and not see what's really going on here. I thought you were smarter than that.

 

[SunZoo]

I dont know where you got that he was only talking about his community
Billboard Cover: Kendrick Lamar on Ferguson, Leaving Iggy Azalea Alone and Why 'We're in the Last Days'

the pragapraph that starts with "Lamar spent much of his childhood on the streets" is them talking about the police. The question that he responded to was about killings from all over not just his community. And he responded with the "we gotta respect ourselves" nowhere in that interview do you see him saying he just talking about his community.

and even if he is talking about community still is a dumb statement.
Cops will still fukk with Black people even if they do respect themselves. Many of these cops are some racist MFs that could care less if you do respect yourself, thats not gonna stop them from fukking with you, beating you, stopping, or worse killing you.


I dont really listen to kendrick so I'll address the TBTB later becasue its been months since I heard that shyt I 'll have to go back and listen to it.

I'm saying the conversation shifted from his past and his experiences and jumped directly into Mike Brown situation, not as a fluid conversation but an article of excerpts and sound bites. The wording didn't look good though so I understood the reactions, I just don't know if all the "koondrick" shyt was warranted like he really out here not giving a fukk about or doing harm do black folk.

 

[JMurder]

 

[JMurder]

Can someone explain the significance of the thread title to me. Azalea wears the contradiction of her "militance" on her weave. The coli was backing her hard for about two months...where's the relevance here

 

[Versa]

Lupe is cringe worthy on Twitter at times but does way too much outside of it for black folks to be called a c00n.