Y'all gonna look me in my face and say this country right now is BETTER THAN or EQUAL TO how it would've been under President Kamala Harris?

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I get that but it's wild that you'd support a full on socialist over a democrat or even a republican.

That's the thing about the coli y'all are political babies 12% of the population but If I don't get everything I'd rather have nothing.

To the burn it down faction what happens when you get no food you not compromising in the face of starvation?

I mean damn if you really want it to burn at least be in another country. shyt the shyt could burn down After I get my farm up overseas.

I got people calling me about money right now I need my checks.

Listen I'm sure MAGA wants full Jim Crow back but baby steps.


Harris wasn't beating Trump under any scenario. This wasn't a burn it down situation. There's nothing you nor I nor anybody on this message board could have done to have gotten Harris to win. The least you could do, if you were aware enough to understand that Harris was a lameduck, was to use your single insignificant vote to voice a move to the left by supporting actual leftists.


But nope, y'all wanted to support a Cheney endorsed politician that had zero shot.
 

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Both Sides means we don't like Republicans either. No one is on the MAGA train.
Ok so you just told me what you're against What are you for?

I mean something that you can get Realistically speaking

because if you say Reparations or nothing that's like you asking for a civil war in the sense you'd have the same chance of getting that as the Black Liberation Army coming back.


I'll even express my politics I lean conservative. I don't think women should hold high office and the family court system needs radical reform.

But that's pie in the sky wants Realistically I want to see Tarriffs lowered and taxes for the middle class lowered and Black history monuments that exist fully funded.

I'm fine with tough on crime and immigrant inforcement but not ICE on the streets unless you get them off the farms too. I'd even be fine with replacement with chain gangs.


I believe in Black self detrimination most big cities are democratic so if that's what the people want they should have it.

I draw the line at changing local gun laws meaning if Guns are essentially illegal in New York city and I choose to live there fine.

But If I live in Richmond Va and they changed the Gun Laws there I'm voting for anybody that keeps the gun laws in place.

Why because a mass shooting can happen anywhere and I want the same chance as anybody else to defend myself. Unless you could magically make guns dissappear I'm keeping mine.
 

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The election was an intelligence test
I just can't take anyone who voted for Trump (or didn't vote) seriously. Like I legit look down on you as a human being in the same way I look down on pedophiles, white supremacists, etc.
The harm of Trump was so obvious, especially this time around. They literally published a whole playbook outlining their plan :dead: AND we had 4 yrs evidence this racist POS had no idea how to run the country AND had a televised insurrection of white racists. Like how dumb do you have to be to either vote for Trump after all that or to spend time trying to undermine Kamala
Luckily I don't have idiots like that in my circle irl cause I honestly could see myself coming to blows with a muhfukker over the topic
I didn't like Kamala at all and even thought the genocide in Gaza would continue under a Dem admin. Didn't matter, still voted for her cause the alternative was obviously worse. I only voted twice in my entire life, after vowing to never vote cause I thought politics was bullshyt. Once for Biden....once for Kamala. That's how bad Trump is. (2016 I made the mistake of thinking Hillary would win in a blowout)
 

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Harris wasn't beating Trump under any scenario. This wasn't a burn it down situation. There's nothing you nor I nor anybody on this message board could have done to have gotten Harris to win. The least you could do, if you were aware enough to understand that Harris was a lameduck, was to use your single insignificant vote to voice a move to the left by supporting actual leftists.


But nope, y'all wanted to support a Cheney endorsed politician that had zero shot

I agree Harris wasn't gonna win and if you're a conscious/ Protest voter I can dig that.

shyt if you were a MAGA supporter I can dig that too.

I just hate when people are hive minded and hide when popular opinion doesn't go their way.

I'm defenitely not a socialist but |I can respect someone who is.
 

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Ok so you just told me what you're against What are you for?

I mean something that you can get Realistically speaking

because if you say Reparations or nothing that's like you asking for a civil war in the sense you'd have the same chance of getting that as the Black Liberation Army coming back.


I'll even express my politics I lean conservative. I don't think women should hold high office and the family court system needs radical reform.

But that's pie in the sky wants Realistically I want to see Tarriffs lowered and taxes for the middle class lowered and Black history monuments that exist fully funded.

I'm fine with tough on crime and immigrant inforcement but not ICE on the streets unless you get them off the farms too. I'd even be fine with replacement with chain gangs.


I believe in Black self detrimination most big cities are democratic so if that's what the people want they should have it.

I draw the line at changing local gun laws meaning if Guns are essentially illegal in New York city and I choose to live there fine.

But If I live in Richmond Va and they changed the Gun Laws there I'm voting for anybody that keeps the gun laws in place.

Why because a mass shooting can happen anywhere and I want the same chance as anybody else to defend myself. Unless you could magically make guns dissappear I'm keeping mine.
Medicare for All like every 1st world nation in the world.
Free community College.
Higher federal minimum wage.

Are the Dems about any of this or nah? Better yet what issue are the Dems 10 does down on? Name one they won't compromise on? They aren't about anything except collecting donations and lobbying money.
 

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The election was an intelligence test
I just can't take anyone who voted for Trump (or didn't vote) seriously. Like I legit look down on you as a human being in the same way I look down on pedophiles, white supremacists, etc.
The harm of Trump was so obvious, especially this time around. They literally published a whole playbook outlining their plan :dead: AND we had 4 yrs evidence this racist POS had no idea how to run the country AND had a televised insurrection of white racists. Like how dumb do you have to be to either vote for Trump after all that or to spend time trying to undermine Kamala
Luckily I don't have idiots like that in my circle irl cause I honestly could see myself coming to blows with a muhfukker over the topic
I didn't like Kamala at all and even thought the genocide in Gaza would continue under a Dem admin. Didn't matter, still voted for her cause the alternative was obviously worse. I only voted twice in my entire life, after vowing to never vote cause I thought politics was bullshyt. Once for Biden....once for Kamala. That's how bad Trump is. (2016 I made the mistake of thinking Hillary would win in a blowout)
I can respect it if they really was ok with the results.

The reason you're not getting any real #bothsiders pop up is because they really thought that donnie was bluffing.

actually I low key understand donnie lies so much you can't believe anything nikka got Trump 2028 hats ginned up even I can\t believe that they'll let donnie do a third term so I guess they thought he'd kick some immugrants out make money and play golf and declare victory

They really didn;t expect tanks to show up to Black neigborhoods.
 

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Medicare for All like every 1st world nation in the world.
Free community College.
Higher federal minimum wage.

Are the Dems about any of this or nah? Better yet what issue are the Dems 10 does down on? Name one they won't compromise on? They aren't about anything except collecting donations and lobbying money.
Again you're mad that the Democrats ain't Democrating enough so the answer is nothing.

Basically you're asking for standard butter biscuits for all nothing specifc for FBA's

I guess you're down to pay 60% of your wages in Taxes to send redneck beckie to community college for underwater basketweaving courtesy of a Hard Working FBA doctor in Bowie Maryland.

Also free healthcare for all is a magnet for migrants donnie's got a point on that.
 

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People will vote democrat in 2028 and after who wins and cleaned up trump mess, then in 2032 it’s republicans back in office

Poor uneducated white people and latino men are some of the most silly motherfukkers in this country
Also, if Democrats are put back in office and spend more time fixing this dumb shyt than adding new initiatives, expect turnout to lead to more Republicans who do nothing but dismantle to get back into office. People say not to blame voters but these politicians aren't divined into office by God, they are put in there by us. All info is publicly available on these people and folks make excuses for taking the hardest road and why it's the fault of Democrats.
 

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Medicare for All like every 1st world nation in the world.
Free community College.
Higher federal minimum wage.

Are the Dems about any of this or nah? Better yet what issue are the Dems 10 does down on? Name one they won't compromise on? They aren't about anything except collecting donations and lobbying money.
The democrats are having a shutdown for Medicare for most but that's not enough for you/

I mean you do know why we don't have it right? because white people who are sick would say I'm not paying for Lamonts Diabetes medications or Shalonda's critical race theory classes.

meanwhile I'm in a third world country with Medicare for all and a country that americans come to for treatment College aint free per se but Afro Colombians get a heavy discount for school.

They also raise the minimum wage with inflation except this time they greatly expanded it and cut working hours.
 

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Again you're mad that the Democrats ain't Democrating enough so the answer is nothing.

Basically you're asking for standard butter biscuits for all nothing specifc for FBA's

I guess you're down to pay 60% of your wages in Taxes to send redneck beckie to community college for underwater basketweaving courtesy of a Hard Working FBA doctor in Bowie Maryland.

Also free healthcare for all is a magnet for migrants donnie's got a point on that.
You bolded "Realistically speaking" in your last post and now want legislation specific to FBAs? That's not realistic either chief. I'm for it but yeah that's not an ask until the temperature of the country is lowered socially.
And yeah, I'm willing to pay higher taxes for free Healthcare. Not 60% but I'm not opposed to it. And yeah whatever the individual scenarios regarding demographics you are offended by getting benefits doesn't bother me.
 

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The democrats are having a shutdown for Medicare for most but that's not enough for you/

I mean you do know why we don't have it right? because white people who are sick would say I'm not paying for Lamonts Diabetes medications or Shalonda's critical race theory classes.

meanwhile I'm in a third world country with Medicare for all and a country that americans come to for treatment College aint free per se but Afro Colombians get a heavy discount for school.

They also raise the minimum wage with inflation except this time they greatly expanded it and cut working hours.
No, it's not enough. Remember this is after they refused to run on the issue themselves and reprimand anyone who attempted to. Kamal in the 1st presidential debate to her credit says she was all about universal Healthcare. Then post debate after talking to her team she reversed her position. They don't want it, their donors told them it's a no go.
 
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