Y'all gonna look me in my face and say this country right now is BETTER THAN or EQUAL TO how it would've been under President Kamala Harris?

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What wouldve stayed the same: Indians flooding the country, the incident over in the middle east. Them epi files still wouldnt have been released.

What would be different: racism would still be covert tho bubbling to be overt again, we would still have what little rights we have they haven't chipped away by other means.

Basically we would be slowing down whats happening now, cause I doubt she wouldve put things in place to stop it completely.
So you're waiting for a crash.

Let's say Donnie does what they want quickly you get Jim Crow

What do you do then?

I believe also what goes up (America) goes down like all other empires that's why I'm getting a farm in the tropics

You get full racism out in the open and another rosewood happens do you even have a rifle?
 

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OP,

We've seen even MAGA affiliated elected officials and appointees pushback and disagree with Trump publicly this year. So seeing members and mods here still not conceding that Trump was the wrong choice reveals the character flaws that lead to them falling for bothsides propaganda to begin with.

They painted themselves into a corner, and are not man enough to admit that they were wrong.

Nikkas would rather eat literal shyt in a hot dog bun because they’re tired of eating the same cheeseburger they’ve had for the past month and have even convinced themselves that both meals are the same.
 
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The election was an intelligence test
I just can't take anyone who voted for Trump (or didn't vote) seriously. Like I legit look down on you as a human being in the same way I look down on pedophiles, white supremacists, etc.
The harm of Trump was so obvious, especially this time around. They literally published a whole playbook outlining their plan :dead: AND we had 4 yrs evidence this racist POS had no idea how to run the country AND had a televised insurrection of white racists. Like how dumb do you have to be to either vote for Trump after all that or to spend time trying to undermine Kamala
Luckily I don't have idiots like that in my circle irl cause I honestly could see myself coming to blows with a muhfukker over the topic
I didn't like Kamala at all and even thought the genocide in Gaza would continue under a Dem admin. Didn't matter, still voted for her cause the alternative was obviously worse. I only voted twice in my entire life, after vowing to never vote cause I thought politics was bullshyt. Once for Biden....once for Kamala. That's how bad Trump is. (2016 I made the mistake of thinking Hillary would win in a blowout)

If I was a college professor and some student turned in a paper talking about both sides were the same, I’d fail them off that alone :dead:

There’s no logical basis to say it outside of being anti capitalist and thinking both sides answer to corporate interests. Even if that was true….one, welcome to being an adult and understanding how our economy and our political system works. Two, one side is clearly more regressive than the other by multiple metrics.
 

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If you dont how we got here you are an idiot.
Instead of posting the same shyt weekly, offer some solutions, unless you got a passport like most the nikkas who swear the would be gone after election(but still here).
Our leaders didnt fight for us to be bytching about the same shyt everyday. Might as well go piss on there graves being this defeated...
 

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So you're waiting for a crash.

Let's say Donnie does what they want quickly you get Jim Crow

What do you do then?

I believe also what goes up (America) goes down like all other empires that's why I'm getting a farm in the tropics

You get full racism out in the open and another rosewood happens do you even have a rifle?
What's happening now is what is what they want to happen, im not saying its right, im just wondering how she would've legitimately stopped this completely?
 

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What wouldve stayed the same: Indians flooding the country, the incident over in the middle east. Them epi files still wouldnt have been released.

What would be different: racism would still be covert tho bubbling to be overt again, we would still have what little rights we have they haven't chipped away by other means.

Basically we would be slowing down whats happening now, cause I doubt she wouldve put things in place to stop it completely.
There is still a lot more that has yet to be uncovered with these immigrant visas. The public been asleep during the last 3 administrations. That's why there isn't much outcry despite trying to drag us into it at every chance.
 

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Bothsiders don't want to admit they were wrong because it will mean that there is a critical flaw in their world view. So they make false equivalences trying to validate their points. Both sides are clearly not the same.

I think people who harp on "bothsiders" don't actually understand what people are getting at aside from the straight up contrarian idiots and agents actually looking to derail political movements.

If Malcom X were alive that same lot would call him a c00n for making distinction between foxes and wolves. They aren't 'literally' the same, but the have the same underlying agenda, just a different approach/presentation.

The majority of feckless Democrats signing off on celebrating a white supremacist is exactly who they were/are when they're pandering to you and giving you scraps to maintain an orderly white supremacist state. King saw this and talked about it, X pointed it up as well. "Foxy liberals" are in place to lull people to sleep and maintain decorum while they fukk you.

People throw their political weight behind these cowards and then wonder how we get to a place like this. Democrats literally strategically quashed a people oriented movement that could have countered what we are seeing now to keep fundamental change from happening. They also foolishly propped up Trump as their preferred opponent after they killed said movement because they figured his lack of decorum would be off-putting to people who have less and less to lose.

WHITE PEOPLE WERE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE ONES TO FEEL ENOUGH PAIN TO CHANGE THINGS, THEY CHOSE THEIR DESTROYER, NOT US.
 

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What wouldve stayed the same: Indians flooding the country, the incident over in the middle east. Them epi files still wouldnt have been released.

What would be different: racism would still be covert tho bubbling to be overt again, we would still have what little rights we have they haven't chipped away by other means.

Basically we would be slowing down whats happening now, cause I doubt she wouldve put things in place to stop it completely.

Trump's presidency was in large part a backlash for Obama's two terms. In a world where a woman, a *black woman at that becomes president this last election, the same amount of blacklash with a whole new dimension would have presented itself again.

White people in this country, especially the ones who largely voted for Trump are far too comfortable to for any fundamental change to happen. They have to feel the fukking pain to even begin fixing what they have fukked up.
 

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I think people who harp on "bothsiders" don't actually understand what people are getting at aside from the straight up contrarian idiots and agents actually looking to derail political movements.

If Malcom X were alive that same lot would call him a c00n for making distinction between foxes and wolves. They aren't 'literally' the same, but the have the same underlying agenda, just a different approach/presentation.

The majority of feckless Democrats signing off on celebrating a white supremacist is exactly who they were/are when they're pandering to you and giving you scraps to maintain an orderly white supremacist state. King saw this and talked about it, X pointed it up as well. "Foxy liberals" are in place to lull people to sleep and maintain decorum while they fukk you.

People throw their political weight behind these cowards and then wonder how we get to a place like this. Democrats literally strategically quashed a people oriented movement that could have countered what we are seeing now to keep fundamental change from happening. They also foolishly propped up Trump as their preferred opponent after they killed said movement because they figured his lack of decorum would be off-putting to people who have less and less to lose.

WHITE PEOPLE WERE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE ONES TO FEEL ENOUGH PAIN TO CHANGE THINGS, THEY CHOSE THEIR DESTROYER, NOT US.

Malcolm would’ve been critical of both sides and would likely call Democrats the party of the fake white liberal but he would begrudgingly advise black people to vote Democrat. There’s no world where he would advocate for Republicans or stoke animosity in people to make them not vote. He was about black empowerment and independence and that’s impossible under a white supremacist / fascist administration. He would look at y’all nikkas like y’all were crazy.
 
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