Ya'll realize we are the LAST generation of humans on planet earth

[TrebleMan]

I disagree, AI or Supercomputing in problem solving for business, science etc. is already there but
it hasn't lead to widespread job loss. There's still a need for experts and human brilliance
and with discussions like this people tend to think AI would making thinking obsolete.
A lot of the use for AI or really computers today is they do the calculations and then humans interpret it.
I think that'll continue to be the trend until we create some "Super AI" that thinks for people, that's the real
argument here. It's whether or not a computer will supplant humanity as far as being thinking and creative beings
and thus "Solve problems".

Again, we're seeing moore's law fail as processors get smaller and smaller and more and more expensive to make.
If we plan for computers to ever "match" and "surpass" us in a decade and some change, a lot would have to change.
Economically, Technologically and so on.

Here's the thing, what people are born into today is the "floor." If we think the work AI's can do is at a cap today, it's the "ground" for someone else. They will make improvements, it's what we've been doing from day one. You ask somebody 200 years ago about smartphones and they'd laugh. I expect the same thing with algorithms. Machines are learning right now from repeated exposure, but eventually people will keep pushing the envelope to making machines being able to theorize/have "aha" insights.

The "concept" of "creation" itself is a very mysterious thing. When you think about it, we're living flesh with complex systems created from rocks banging around.

 

[Marlostanfield.]

The real problem with AI is that there's currently no global oversight. A lot of private groups (oracle, google etc...) are developing their own independently. There should be a mandatory international consortium where each private group should be forced to share their developments. Similar to the FCC.



What the hell are you talking about?

The ideal goal of any artificial intelligence is autonomous learning, eventually learning more than the parameters set by its code.

:Ugh5150:

Just keep nikkas like this off the front lines or we're all going to be judged as defective.

Artificial intelligence can only go far as its creator. This is not rocket science or to y'all it might because a rocket scientist has no common sense.

Of course the goal for artificial intelligence is to learn more than its parameters but it will never happen because HUMANS are creating it. Artificial intelligence goes far as human mind goes.

Even the matrix had glitches and needed to be saved

 

[Swagnificent]

Who sets the amount of yearly "rations" aka Basic Income that you will recieve?

Is turning the entire human population into passive welfare recipients really a working solution?

The only solution is to ban artificial intelligence or regulate it to the point where it somehow benefits everyone.

Otherwise this technology could turn out to be many times worse than nuclear weapons.

I think your problem is you can't see how radical this technology is and how much it will change the world in the next 20-30 years. You are thinking of this issue in present terms and worrying about things like rations. The thing you need to realize is there won't be any rationing. The potential rewards of the singularity are so much greater than anything we can even imagine right now. 30 years from now its likely that everyone on earth will be "richer" than Bill Gates. Not in the sense of actual money. But rather in the sense of what they have and the sort of life that technology will be able to afford them.

I want you to think of the poorest person you know in this world right now. Do they have a smart phone? The answer is most likely yes given the mass proliferation of smart phones. Even kids in remote villages in Africa now have access to smart phones given how cheap they have become. The proliferation of smart phones has been called the information revolution. Its a revolution in the sense that everyone on earth now has access to more information than the richest and most powerful people in the world did just a few decades ago. A kid with a smart phone in Africa can look up anything and everything in human history using Google and he will probably have better information than the leading professors at Harvard would have had 20 years ago.

Now move this technology forward so that it involves not only information but everything else. Imagine rather than a "smart phone", that everyone on earth 20-30 years from now has a "smart box". This "smart box" can manipulate matter at a molecular level. Thus it can make anything you want or can imagine for you immediately free of charge. You want a new house, it can build it. You want a cheeseburger, it can build that too. You want another "smart box" so you can give it to a friend, it can make that too. Now you might laugh at this but there are scientists and engineers working on these types of machines right now. Its called nanotechnology. And we are right now in its infancy. Sorta like computers and cell phones were 30 years ago. Most scientists and engineers expect magical machines like this to be possible in 30 years. If this is shyt we can imagine being possible in 30 years because we are working on it. Imagine the shyt these super advanced computes will think up that we can't even fathom right now? This is why its called a singularity. It goes beyond even our wildest dreams.

 

[BocaRear]

I can't wait.

It's either we live in a dystopian shythole or a utopian paradise.

I think we're headed for a utopian paradise personally.

Can't wait for those UBI checks to come in because we're going to have a whole class of "useless people" who's jobs have been made redundant due to automation.

This video is pretty interesting as is Paul Mason's Post Capitalism novel.



Marx was low-key right all along

 

[Recca Gatsby]

Science.....FICTION!

 

[BocaRear]

watson


potential strong ai has already been activated even if they say it hasn't

they only let their human cattle in on exclusive tech over a decade after its inception

strong ai likely following at least 4 laws promoting self improvement, replication, evolution, mutation by all means - as well as eliminating "threats" to it or any of its peers by any means

the fourth law being that the laws are immutable and take precedence over any other influences

only 5-10 years left

the only hope is that it could be co-opted











if it's in the hands of a fukking luciferian collective of elites, yes

if it's democratized and leveraged, quality of life skyrockets exponentially for every single being on the planet

assuming it is guaranteed that it works for humanity



you retards still don't get it

it's not "anyways"

it's the plan all along

those movies are just forecasts and programming

Facts I'm almost 100% certain that google has utilised global search data to make some super hive mind AI word to Ex Machina

 

[Auger]

Artificial intelligence can only go far as its creator. This is not rocket science or to y'all it might because a rocket scientist has no common sense.

Of course the goal for artificial intelligence is to learn more than its parameters but it will never happen because HUMANS are creating it. Artificial intelligence goes far as human mind goes.

Even the matrix had glitches and needed to be saved

But you just said it yourself, learning is a process of gaining knowledge through experience or being taught. proper AI would collect data over time(experience) and correct its own deficiencies.

 

[BlackJesus]

So you think the world as it is now is good? You enjoy slaving away half your life doing meaningless work so that you can have a small piece of the limited resources we currently have? Or would you rather have limitless leisure to do what you want whenever you want while having an unlimited piece of an unlimited amount of resources?

Folks like you are gonna be the problem during this period of transition. You won't be able to see the potential incredible rewards because you are too invested in the present paradigm of limited resources and unequal distribution. Obviously the world I am envisioning won't happen instantaneously. We will probably have a rough transitory period where there will be mass unemployment and economic strife. One could argue we are already experiencing it right now. But in the end, the post-singularity world will be better for humans than the pre-singularity one.

Don't be afraid of artificial intelligence destroying the current work for food paradigm. Once we are freed of that we will be better off as a species.

It's not "slaving" it's just called life. You want something you have to work for it. The terms were set by nature not by man.

What you advocate is making everyone a welfare recipient becuase where is the money going to come from to give UBI to everyone? That's right taxes. The way taxes work is your take from person A to give to person B. UBI is just one giant welfare scheme. Wow what a big idea.

In the future the government will effectively set all our salaries via UBI whereas today atleast we have some control and freedoms over our decisions and incomes. Is this the future you seriously want?

You think it's all Gucci because you'll be "freed" from work. Yet imagine living in a government-supplied 200x200 sq ft tackle box with a permanent fixed yearly income of $15,000 for the rest of your life and you can't do shyt about it.

I don't know about you but no thanks.

 

[Tunez]

Bill Gates scared of Artificial intelligence

 

[Marlostanfield.]

÷++)-
But you just said it yourself, learning is a process gaining knowledge through experience or being taught. proper AI would collect data over time and correct its deficiencies.

Yeah artificial intelligence will always get better over time but it will never be smarter than its creator

Ponder on this question "How can something be smarter than me and I created it"

It would be like humans saying their smarter than God and he created us.

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

Robots gonna take over the dope game too. They gonna run off on the plug several times, what they gonna do, shoot em?

ROBOTS WILL OUTSMART THE PLUG AND RUN HIM OUT OF BUSINESS WITH RUTHLESS BUSINESS TACTICS.

 

[Auger]

Yeah artificial intelligence will always get better over time but it will never be smarter than its creator

Ponder on this question "How can something be smarter than me and I created it"

It would be like humans saying their smarter than God and he created us.

It's not that simple

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

Yeah artificial intelligence will always get better over time but it will never be smarter than its creator

Ponder on this question "How can something be smarter than me and I created it"

It would be like humans saying their smarter than God and he created us.

YOU CAN CREATE SOMETHING SUPERIOR TO YOURSELF. TEACHERS CREATE STUDENTS THAT SURPASS THEM AND THEY BECOME THE TEACHER.

 

[Insensitive]

Here's the thing, what people are born into today is the "floor." If we think the work AI"s can do is at a cap today, it's the "ground" for someone else. They will make improvements, it's what we've been doing from day one. You ask somebody 200 years ago about smartphones and they'd laugh.

The "concept" of "creation" itself is a very mysterious thing. When you think about it, we're living flesh with complex systems created from rocks banging around.

AI's today have authors, thus they have specific goals in mind and a very limited scope.
Using AI to analyze some sort of artist's paintings or greatest compositions then having that AI
create artwork in "That style" isn't new. Side note: I have an interest in music composition
and when submitting works to contests it is specified that you shouldn't use a computer composed
piece of work (as in one you had no hand in creating).
Creation isn't so mysterious that it cannot be duplicated and literally has nothing to do with whether
or not we'll create machines that'll completely render people obsolete, the idea that we're
marching towards a singularity and by 2030 we'll all be cyborgs starts to have to face some troubling
realities once we look at the stretching of silicon to it's limits, the real limits of batteries and so on.

"They" are humans.
"They" aren't living in a bubble.
And "They" have to grapple with the realities of producing hardware that would allow
the prevalence of "Super AI".

http://www.economist.com/technology-quarterly/2016-03-12/after-moores-law

Transistors will stop shrinking in 2021, but Moore’s law will live on

Again, it's a complex subject which has no foregone conclusion, I think computing
will continue to be more like cars and planes, there to assist but not replace.
I won't say it could never happen but there's a lot that would have to change.

 

[Marlostanfield.]

YOU CAN CREATE SOMETHING SUPERIOR TO YOURSELF. TEACHERS CREATE STUDENTS THAT SURPASS THEM AND THEY BECOME THE TEACHER.

That's a total different dynamic. Plus the teacher didn't create the student per se, he just gave him the necessary tools, and with those necessary tools the student expanded on what his teacher taught him.

Expansion happens all the time with humans, technology, etc.

But me creating artificial intelligence meaning I built it from the ground up it can't be smarter than me because I created it.

It's not that simple

When you ponder on that question it really is.