YES that ETHER made JAY-Z stronger HE DROPPING 5%/MOORISH JEWELS on MAGNA CARTA

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If Jay would drop more jewels like this and get back to his Nuwabian roots his stock will skyrocket ...with me at least
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i see alot of knowledge and ether was dropped in this thread i will have to revisit later
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Well there hasn't been any aggressive atheist with power to do so.

Who's to say if atheist had as much power as the religious they wouldn't do the same shyt. :shaq:

that's true BUT however, there's been plenty of violent theists that aren't presidents or in control of something. there's plenty of theists that speak about "god this, that or whatever" but will turn around and hurt you for whatever reason or will contradict themselves with the quickness.

there's plenty of violent atheists out there BUT as far as i know, the theists are usually the ones to throw them though.
 

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that's true BUT however, there's been plenty of violent theists that aren't presidents or in control of something. there's plenty of theists that speak about "god this, that or whatever" but will turn around and hurt you for whatever reason or will contradict themselves with the quickness.

there's plenty of violent atheists out there BUT as far as i know, the theists are usually the ones to throw them though.
Atheists can do dirt as much as any theists can. Stupidity and corruption can effect any group.

If you think atheists are exempt from it then your naive. :youngsabo:
 

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Atheists can do dirt as much as any theists can. Stupidity and corruption can effect any group.

If you think atheists are exempt from it then your naive. :youngsabo:

i didn't say that. i actually cosigned you on what you said.

i DID say that theists are more than likely to get violent over shyt compared to an atheist though. i guess the reasoning behind that is because a theist feels that they will be held less accountable for their actions due to their beliefs (they think that they'll be forgiven or that the higher power they believe in will protect them or has given them permission to do what they're doing) compared to an atheist who doesn't believe in anything. an atheist is more in touch with reality than a theist is though.

i'm NOT saying that an atheist won't hurt you BUT they're less likely to do so because they'll be thinking more logically about the consequences to their actions compared to a theist who might do something to contradict their beliefs now and then turn around and ask for mercy later.
 

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i didn't say that. i actually cosigned you on what you said.

i DID say that theists are more than likely to get violent over shyt compared to an atheist though. i guess the reasoning behind that is because a theist feels that they will be held less accountable for their actions due to their beliefs (they think that they'll be forgiven or that the higher power they believe in will protect them or has given them permission to do what they're doing) compared to an atheist who doesn't believe in anything. an atheist is more in touch with reality than a theist is though.

i'm NOT saying that an atheist won't hurt you BUT they're less likely to do so because they'll be thinking more logically about the consequences to their actions compared to a theist who might do something to contradict their beliefs now and then turn around and ask for mercy later.
Are you sure your not confusing a theist and a religious theist? :usure:

Also that reasoning has been flipped to say that atheists have no motivation to do the right thing because they have no higher power to answer to.

And there is nothing to put an atheist more in touch with reality than a theist when the possibility is an even 50/50 split.
 

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Are you sure your not confusing a theist and a religious theist? :usure:

Also that reasoning has been flipped to say that atheists have no motivation to do the right thing because they have no higher power to answer to.

And there is nothing to put an atheist more in touch with reality than a theist when the possibility is an even 50/50 split.

what's the difference between a theist and a religious theist? a theist is a theist. doesn't matter which specific type there is.

as i said, an atheist will more than likely hold themselves accountable for their actions compared to a theist who will pretty much be looking towards whatever they believe in to turn to whenever in a situation that they feel stressed about.

however, that would explain why atheists are more likely to be depressed and suicidal compared to theist. they feel that there's NO hope for things to get better where as theism allows someone to hope for better by giving them that mental comfort that it's NOT on them or out of their reach because their higher power has that control. :sadbron: i'm an atheist and i suffer from major depressive disorder. however, i would say that i suffered from depression before i became an atheist. theism didn't work for me. in fact, it almost drove me nuts and made me lose total control of my life. as an atheist, i feel that i have more control over more life where i'm allowed to feel liberated mentally. i guess it depends on what you're trying to get out of your belief. most people want comfort though. i got more comfort out of atheism than i did from theism which i felt made me into a lazy ass or left me feeling restricted and make thinking straight.
 

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what's the difference between a theist and a religious theist? a theist is a theist. doesn't matter which specific type there is.

as i said, an atheist will more than likely be more accountable for their actions compared to a theist who will pretty much be looking towards whatever they believe in to turn to whenever in a situation that they feel stressed about.

however, that would explain why atheists are more likely to be depressed and suicidal compared to theist. :sadbron: i'm an atheist and i suffer from major depressive disorder.
The difference is that a religious theist subscribes to a religion and a normal theist does not.

It does matter in that religious theists and normal theists are not the same.

Non religious theists don't have a belief to turn to whenever a situation they feel stressed about arises so your comparison fails in that reguard.
 

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The difference is that a religious theist subscribes to a religion and a normal theist does not.

It does matter in that religious theists and normal theists are not the same.

Non religious theists don't have a belief to turn to whenever a situation they feel stressed about arises so your comparison fails in that reguard.

they both believe in a higher power. that's really about it. it's that they go about it in a different way.

so what exactly is the point that you're making.

as long as you believe in a higher power, you're a theist. some folks chose to follow a religion that puts a name on that higher power and say that that higher power believes in such and such where they use books to explain it all. some folks chose to believe that there's a higher power where they call to that higher power whenever they feel that their back is against the wall.

either way, the theist is NOT holding themselves or even the next person accountable when they believe in a higher power.

theism is really just people that believe a higher power and chose to live their lives around that idea depending on whether it suits their best interests or not.
 

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they both believe in a higher power. that's really about it. it's that they go about it in a different way.

so what exactly is the point that you're making.

as long as you believe in a higher power, you're a theist. some folks chose to follow a religion that puts a name on that higher power and say that that higher power believes in such and such where they use books to explain it all. some folks chose to believe that there's a higher power where they call to that higher power whenever they feel that their back is against the wall.

either way, the theist is NOT holding themselves or even the next person accountable when they believe in a higher power.

theism is really just people that believe a higher power and chose to live their lives around that idea depending on whether it suits their best interests or not.
Not all theists are attached to their belief in a higher power as your describing.

Many dont live around their belief in a higher power and many don't look at it has something to fall back on when their back is against the wall.

Many just see it as a possibility and nothing more and live their lives separate from the belief they posses.

You have this warped view that all theists are somehow dependent on their beliefs and my point is that not all of them are.
 

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The difference is that a religious theist subscribes to a religion and a normal theist does not.

It does matter in that religious theists and normal theists are not the same.

Non religious theists don't have a belief to turn to whenever a situation they feel stressed about arises so your comparison fails in that reguard.

You're describing DEISTS.

The term "religious theist" doesn't make sense.

They're both theists.
 

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You're describing DEISTS.

The term "religious theist" doesn't make sense.

They're both theists.
No I'm describing non-religious theists.

One who doesn't follow a religion but personally believes that the higher power interacts with the universe in some way.

That's a person who isn't a religious theist.
 

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No I'm describing non-religious theists.

One who doesn't follow a religion but personally believes that the higher power interacts with the universe in some way.

That's a person who isn't a religious theist.

You have this UNCANNY yet persistently annoying ability to just make words up to suit whatever you just stubbornly want to catch on.

You're describing deists.

Theres no other reason to really sit here and come up with a new semantic trick to further delineate yourself from what you are or what you are lodging on other people.

The word already exists. Theres no other synonyms needed.

Deists. They're theists without a formalized concept of "religion"

(personally I argue that all theists are religious, but based on how ridiculous you're being i don't expect you to grasp that either).
 
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