#YesAllWomen and White Male Aggression

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People keep bringing up the fact that he killed more men than women but that's because his plan failed. He always intended to target women, to specifically get into a sorority house and massacre the people in there. But that fell through and he improvised.

And here's the problem I have with that last part: if it's not right to have a 'conversation' about this now, after a significant act of violence like this, when is it? It's the same issue surrounding gun control dialogue. It's not right to have that convo after a school shooting? After someone opened fire in a movie theater? When is it? How long do you have to wait for that? By the time the next spree shooting occurs? When Onion headlines referring to these types of things are more depressing than funny, it's some real shyt.

hey some kids died but lets focus on the feelings of some morons on twitter. Got it.
 

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hey some kids died but lets focus on the feelings of some morins on twitter. Got it.

I don't think the focus is on the twitter people (though I don't doubt for a second that some people aren't taking advantage of this for attention) but on the covert ways that sexism works its way into everyday life. Elliot Rodger was a terrible person but if we displace sexism onto him, use him as the ultimate example of a man who hates women, it diminishes the other ways that sexism is excused in American culture. That's why it's important that he's recognized not just as a lone nut but as the result of a very specific set of pressures.
 

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I don't think the focus is on the twitter people (though I don't doubt for a second that some people aren't taking advantage of this for attention) but on the covert ways that sexism works its way into everyday life. Elliot Rodger was a terrible person but if we displace sexism onto him, use him as the ultimate example of a man who hates women, it diminishes the other ways that sexism is excused in American culture. That's why it's important that he's recognized not just as a lone nut but as the result of a very specific set of pressures.


I get what you're saying and I agree, but I just feel there's something disingenuous about this and I think the conversation should be about the tragedy and guns more than anything
 

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I get what you're saying and I agree, but I just feel there's something disingenuous about this and I think the conversation should be about the tragedy and guns more than anything

I definitely agree. That's always the problem with things like this, the conversation is always lopsided. There's so much that should be talked about that never gets the attention it's due.
 

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I don't know if "Sexual Aggression" is afforded to white men.
What I do know is that the Elliot Rodgers situation is more complex
than the guy simply not receiving sex from women.
He was not simply a misogynist, he was clearly a sociopath.
Someone who hated any and everyone, his desire to murder
didn't just stop at women, I mean the guy even fantasized about
killing his own little brother. He was clearly "off" and any attempt
to associate his emotions with that of the normal male populace
white or otherwise is a bit disingenuous.



I think the tweet above is a perfect example of this.
Just reading it, it's ridiculous :ld:
:lupe: Hire a handyman yet fear he'll rape you ? :pachaha:


So what option's does a woman who lives alone have? There are some things people just don't have the time to learn on their own. What you are saying is that women need to be 100% trusting of every man ever, when the greater part of western culture shows that attacks in this very scenario can and have happened? :mindblown:

People tell you to be careful and mind your surroundings when you go to the hood. You NEVER think that the problem is with you its with the hood. Its like that for most women only society has conditioned us to say the issue is with the woman first.

I always hated the "what were you wearing/doing?" argument. As a man raised by a mother and has sisters that particular argument disgusts me.
 

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So what option's does a woman who lives alone have? There are some things people just don't have the time to learn on their own. What you are saying is that women need to be 100% trusting of every man ever, when the greater part of western culture shows that attacks in this very scenario can and have happened? :mindblown:

People tell you to be careful and mind your surroundings when you go to the hood. You NEVER think that the problem is with you its with the hood. Its like that for most women only society has conditioned us to say the issue is with the woman first.

I always hated the "what were you wearing/doing?" argument. As a man raised by a mother and has sisters that particular argument disgusts me.



Not to butt into your conversation, but statements like this make me wonder, would she feel 100% safer if it was a woman who came to fix it instead? Somewhat offtopic
 

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I don't know if "Sexual Aggression" is afforded to white men.
What I do know is that the Elliot Rodgers situation is more complex
than the guy simply not receiving sex from women.
He was not simply a misogynist, he was clearly a sociopath.
Someone who hated any and everyone, his desire to murder
didn't just stop at women, I mean the guy even fantasized about
killing his own little brother. He was clearly "off" and any attempt
to associate his emotions with that of the normal male populace
white or otherwise is a bit disingenuous.



I think the tweet above is a perfect example of this.
Just reading it, it's ridiculous :ld:
:lupe: Hire a handyman yet fear he'll rape you ? :pachaha:


The cac male tweets which reply to the above tweet all say, "So if a black man enters your house, are you afraid because blacks commit crime. "

Out of all the examples to use, cacs chose that one. Cacs are truly demons :laff:
 

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so Elliott rodgers killed more men than women right????

on top of that you took people losing loved ones to turn it into something about how some guy was eye-fukking you at a bar once......

I get it that this male dominated society might somehow lead to sexual violence against women but it's kind of disgusting that this is the platform you are going to use.

Rodgers hated both against black and Asian men (though he was half Asian himself). \It's no wonder every man he murdered was Asian.The objects of his desire were white and Asian women. I In his rambling screed, Rodgers wondered how "ugly blacks" could even touch beautiful women when black male are descended from slaves and he from British aristocracy. He thought he was superior to asian men too because he was eurasian (half/half). Dude was riled up by jealousy and racism, and these things played a prominent part in explaining why he did what he did.
 
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Not to butt into your conversation, but statements like this make me wonder, would she feel 100% safer if it was a woman who came to fix it instead? Somewhat offtopic

I don't know about 100% safer but she probably would feel safer. It all goes back to a number of things that society conditions people to believe, be it the idea that only strange men rape, that women are non-threatening, etc. I think more often than not it's gonna be the case that women are gonna feel safer around other women.

The cac male tweets which reply to the above tweet all say, "So if a black man enters your house, are you afraid because blacks commit crime. "

Out of all the examples to use, cacs chose that one. Cacs are truly demons :laff:

That's always the shyt they jump to. Because, I guess, man is automatically white until stated otherwise? It's also the only way white dudes can give themselves that victim status they want, by comparing themselves to black men.
 

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@Klarifeye The Great Cacs try to redirect angry public sentiment from them to blacks (men):

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="Anna (ataylur) on Twitter">@ataylur</a> if i made a picture like that but replaced the word men with black people I would be stabbed in the face. you&#39;re a horrible person</p>&mdash; alphonse mephesto (@alphonsemephes1) <a href="">May 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="alphonse mephesto (alphonsemephes1) on Twitter">@alphonsemephes1</a> that&#39;s because if you replaced it with &quot;black person&quot; it would be incorrect and incredibly racist? what is your point?</p>&mdash; Anna (@ataylur) <a href="">May 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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@Klarifeye The Great Cacs try to redirect angry public sentiment from them to blacks (men):

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="Anna (ataylur) on Twitter">@ataylur</a> if i made a picture like that but replaced the word men with black people I would be stabbed in the face. you&#39;re a horrible person</p>&mdash; alphonse mephesto (@alphonsemephes1) <a href="">May 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="alphonse mephesto (alphonsemephes1) on Twitter">@alphonsemephes1</a> that&#39;s because if you replaced it with &quot;black person&quot; it would be incorrect and incredibly racist? what is your point?</p>&mdash; Anna (@ataylur) <a href="">May 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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:russ: Yooo yall gotta read all the replies to her stupid M&M tweets lmaooo
 

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So what option's does a woman who lives alone have? There are some things people just don't have the time to learn on their own. What you are saying is that women need to be 100% trusting of every man ever, when the greater part of western culture shows that attacks in this very scenario can and have happened? :mindblown:

People tell you to be careful and mind your surroundings when you go to the hood. You NEVER think that the problem is with you its with the hood. Its like that for most women only society has conditioned us to say the issue is with the woman first.

I always hated the "what were you wearing/doing?" argument. As a man raised by a mother and has sisters that particular argument disgusts me.
Well you can tell bold is true and they raised you wrong because the question you speak about is asked to everybody in dang near every situation similar. If you get robbed them same questions are going to come up doesn't mean you should be robbed/raped/etc its just trying to see if there was something more you could have done to prevent the situation. Acting like when it comes to women is the only time somebody ask these questions is disingenuous IMO.
 

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Well you can tell bold is true and they raised you wrong because the question you speak about is asked to everybody in dang near every situation similar. If you get robbed them same questions are going to come up doesn't mean you should be robbed/raped/etc its just trying to see if there was something more you could have done to prevent the situation. Acting like when it comes to women is the only time somebody ask these questions is disingenuous IMO.

That's absurd, and it places blame on the victim and not on the suspect. 9/10 there wasn't anything some one "could have done to prevent the situation". That's a silly way of thinking. We know the number or sexual assaults are higher when it involves people who know eachother. But of the people who are assaulted by strangers why in the actual hell would you even ask that question. No one "asks" to be raped, bro. To even ask the question insinuates that the victim "shouldn't have been in that area" before saying "that rapist needs to be stopped".

And the only other time that question is asked is when white folks come to the hood or white women are in rough areas. No one asks black/brown women "oh what were you doing in the hood because you were attacked there..."

:comeon:
 
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