Yo this faux feminism is going too far!

[Queen]

This "debate" is not limited to twitter or young women. This was on a firearms forum. If you have an attention span that's longer than a toddlers, read it and you will have your explaination.

Folks, this thread is in the Women's Forum. For those of you OT fans who'd like to pile on, please don't. We don't like it and we push back. However, civil discussion is always welcome.

We have another recent thread in the Women's Forum, giving valuable information on a firearms training for women that is upcoming. I inadvertently de-railed that thread by commenting on the used of the phrase "female shooters". Because of that derailment (sorry, OP) and because of my repeated snarkiness on the use of the phrase 'female shooter', I've decided to make a separate thread, to lay out my position and my I'm so serious about it.

Specifically, when someone in the Women's Forum refers to us as 'females', I consistently snark back "Female WHAT's? Humans? They are called Women".

The reason for choosing a particular set of language is that language shapes thoughts and perceptions. What we call things reflects how we think of them. And how we think of them governs how we treat them. If we use insulting words like Polock, Kike, Guinea, Gook etc., we are thinking of those people as outsiders, less than us, possibly even an enemy. (The names I"m using are purposefully old and out of style. I'm trying to be the least offensive to our members as possible.)

When we refer to adult women as females, girls, gals, chicks, b*****es, honeys, etc, we are assigning them less than fully human, less than fully equal status. (There are many horrendous terms that men use for women that I won't even repeat here, but you know what they are). You may not believe it, but language experts agree on it, always, that language shapes thought and behavior. (I'll produce links if necessary). Some, perhaps many, women don't mind these terms, that's their privilege, but I personally think it's damaging over the long term, to them, their daughters and all of us.

Arbitrarily, I think a woman under 18 can be legitimately be called a girl. But that's completely arbitrary on my part, because I have trouble with the concept "six year old woman". Sue me.

Then there's the term 'lady'. I accept that and love it when someone calls me a lady, because it's an earned term, like Sergeant. Not every woman is a lady, we EARN that by our behavior, reputation and manners. So it's not just the same as 'woman'. I think when used intelligently, "b****h" is also a valid, earned term, by means of behavior, reputation and manners. It's the opposite of "lady". If it isn't an earned term, then it's an intentional insult.

It's very important to pay attention to what we call people. It not only shapes our thoughts, it creates a habit of thought that we may not really believe in.

If we consistently refer to adult humans as "men" or "women", we groove in a way of thought that is respectful, dignified and implies equal status. Some people really resist the word "woman". I'm not sure why, they don't seem to have any trouble saying "man". In fact calling him a "man" is usually taken as a compliment.

"Woman" is not a dirty word, it's a respectful, dignified word and I don't think anyone will be insulted by it.

And that's why I insist.

 

[PlainSight]

To be fair, even girls who aren't feminists have complained about this long before SJW twitter emerged. The word does tend to be used in a derogatory way, but because it isn't a derogatory word, it's used to portray ambivilence. Mild gaslighting.

 

[RAX 010]

Some of y'all love falling for the blinking light.....



Got you looking left while they fukking you up on the right. Keep it up breh....arguments about BS topics will always keep you off track.

That ol "Kansas City Shuffle"

 

[MewTwo]

The thing that bothers me the most is how easily women will espouse these ridiculous ideas. I bet if you posted this tweet on lipstickalley or a similar site 90% of the women there will agree with it. This is why modern feminist BS is able to spread so quickly and easily. Also men pretend to agree with these stupid women because they want to fukk them.

 

[NBA Youngbreh]

females gonna female

 

[feelosofer]

This isn't a new argument. Let's be honest the tone in which we use 'female' on and offline is at best condescending and at worst a stand-in for bytch.

 

[King Kreole]

"Female" is a scientific label for a species that has the ability to produce children. When used as a noun (instead of its main usage--an adjective) the subject gets erased. Its like when Bill O'reilly calls black people "the blacks." It diminishes a woman down to her reproductive organs. That is the argument, anyway.

This "debate" is not limited to twitter or young women. This was on a firearms forum. If you have an attention span that's longer than a toddlers, read it and you will have your explaination.

See, I assumed that "woman" would be the problematic term, as it is used to enforce the gender roles and stereotypes that modern feminists are fighting against. I've heard "just a woman" used more often than "just a female" to disparage someone. Female is scientific, and while I can see how it could be used insultingly to reduce someone to their biological function, the term "woman" and all the cultural baggage it comes with doesn't seem to be much better.

 

[#SOG_soldier]

yall ameircans should have never let these dumb hoes out the kitchen




the USA holds ANOTHA L:bobdead:

 

[Champagne Kudo]

Yeah alot of dudes I know say female kinda of like an insult

I don't really understand it but Its whatever I guess

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

i hear females refer use the term "males" all the time

 

[philmonroe]

This isn't a new argument. Let's be honest the tone in which we use 'female' on and offline is at best condescending and at worst a stand-in for bytch.

Nah I don't know this we fam speak for yourself. I use the word female in the same tone/way as I do male. Also stand in for bytch? Who you hanging around with? Must be some white and or suburban cats because most guys they calling a chick a bytch not using fill in words for it.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

Females!

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

Unstable creatures!

 

[Dreadknox77]

To be fair, even girls who aren't feminists have complained about this long before SJW twitter emerged. The word does tend to be used in a derogatory way, but because it isn't a derogatory word, it's used to portray ambivilence. Mild gaslighting.

Can u give me an example of using female in a derogatory way??

 

[DMGAINGREEN]

Niccas in this thread just spewing anything to support this outlandish ass narrative .... when in any instance has the term "female" been used as a derogatory term ? , the prefix off of feminist literally comes from female lol , some of these birds don't receive attention in the physical world so they got to say dumb shyt on a platform like twitter as an alternative