"You get a tariff, you get a tariff, everybody gets a tariff!" - Official Trump Taxes® Thread | 05/12 : US and China slash tariffs to 30 and 10

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China cancels 12,000 metric tons of US pork shipments​


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China canceled 12,000 metric tons of United States pork shipments amid a high-stakes trade standoff between the superpowers, according to data released Thursday.

China, one of the biggest U.S. trading partners, axed 12,000 metric tons of U.S. pork orders, the data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) shows.

The move represents the biggest cancellation of pork orders since the COVID-19 pandemic disrupted supply chains and stalled economies around the world, Bloomberg News reported.

China, behind Mexico and Japan, was the U.S.’s third-biggest market for pork in 2024, importing some 475,000 metric tons valued at more than $1.1 billion.

China is the world’s biggest producer of pork, accounting for nearly 50 percent of global supply at around 57 million metric tons, according to the USDA. The U.S. was ranked third at 11 percent with 12 million metric tons.

President Trumpshook the global trading system by imposing sweeping tariffs earlier this month on dozens of countries. He slapped a 145 percent tariff on Chinese goods coming into the U.S., prompting China to fire back with its own 125 percent duty.

China said Thursday that the U.S. is not engaged in talks to come up with a new trade deal, a characterization that Trump rejected later in the day.

“They had meetings this morning, and we’ve been meeting with China. And, so I think you have … as usual, I think you have your reporting wrong,” Trump told reporters Thursday.

After the tariff hikes, China inked two agricultural trade agreements with Spain, for pork and cherries, as Beijing looks to strengthen relations with European countries, Reuters reported.

U.S. pork imports are now facing a 172 percent tariff, the U.S. Meat Export Federation said, according to Bloomberg News.

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I'm tired of bailing out farmers for the stupid choices they make, aka voting for Trump. They don't want to pay for my student loans I don't want to pay to save their farm. They made the choices and decisions, let them pay for it.
 

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I'm tired of bailing out farmers for the stupid choices they make, aka voting for Trump. They don't want to pay for my student loans I don't want to pay to save their farm. They made the choices and decisions, let them pay for it.
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I'm tired of bailing out farmers for the stupid choices they make, aka voting for Trump. They don't want to pay for my student loans I don't want to pay to save their farm. They made the choices and decisions, let them pay for it.
 

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The article is excellent


That last statement ether...

THE SAD IRONY IS THAT THE BIDEN METHOD—targeted tariffs to bolster infant companies in critical sectors with opportunities to grow and solve pressing global challenges—is humming in the background behind the chaos. This week, the Commerce Department announced the conclusion of an anti-dumping investigation initiated three years ago on Chinese-made solar panel components. Four countries found to have illegally transshipped goods from China will face tariffs between 41 and 3,521 percent.



The long timeline and clear signaling had already boosted U.S. solar manufacturing, accompanied by generous subsidies in the Inflation Reduction Act for clean energy. Three years ago, the U.S. was dependent on foreign imports for 90 percent of all solar equipment; today, it’s the world’s third-largest solar module manufacturer, and last year the country produced enough gigawatts of modules to cover all U.S. installation demand.
 
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The article is excellent


That last statement ether...
If only Biden could have articulated it clearly.
 

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1/39
@Molson_Hart
Supply chains are like refrigerators.

Everyone needs them.

No one knows how they work.

1. Air freight will not solve this. It’s too expensive and there isn’t enough capacity in planes to replace boats, which move more goods by cubic volume.

2. You also cannot solve this the way the world did with Russian oil.

Unless, the U.S. Customs starts encouraging major customs fraud and allowing everyone to relabel their Chinese goods as Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, and Vietnamese (the other nearby port countries), this product cannot come here. There will be massive amounts of cheating, more than ever, but we cannot solve this through rerouting.

3. This is not just about empty shelves and it’s not solved by buffer inventory.

It’s also about jobs, jobs in warehouses, jobs in the port, jobs in trucking and logistics, and jobs in purchasing.

And trust me, it doesn’t matter what your buffer is, you will go out stock because some products always sell more than forecast.

Final thoughts:

When Trump was first elected, I sent my resume to 3 connected people in the hope that I might be able to assist the administration and, more importantly, the country.

The responses I got ranged from silence to “get out of here, no way.”

I’m politically independent and spoke to the Biden administration when I had an opportunity, but this administration is not (yet?) listening.

It’s been odd to see them attempt goals that I support (bringing manufacturing back and American economic revitalization), but do so in a counterproductive way.

And now I am close to having lost all hope that these goals can be achieved in a way that benefits us, Americans.

We will see what happens…

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The White House has put itself and the country in a bad situation but doesn’t realize it yet.

Around April 10th China to USA trade shut down.

It takes ~30 days for containers to go from China to LA.

45 to Houston by sea, 45 to Chicago by train.

55 to New York by sea.

That means that there are no economic effects of what was done on April 10th until about May 10th.

Around that time (it’s already started to happen) trucking work is going to dry up. Warehouses will start doing layoffs because no labor is needed to unload containers and some products will be out of stock, reducing the need for shipping labor.

All this will start in the Los Angeles area.

After about 2 weeks, it’ll start hitting Chicago and Houston.

Let’s say the White House, after 3 weeks, changes its mind, on May 31st.

“This isn’t working out like we thought it would. Tariffs back to 0.”

Let’s say China says “bygones be bygones, we’ll go back to how things were”.

Let’s say every factory in China that got screwed by their orders being cancelled says the same thing “no problem, we’ll make and ship”.

The problem is, even under the most favorable conditions of China and the factories restarting economic ties as though nothing happened, it will be at least another 30 days before economic activity is revived.

And that’s just in LA.

In Chicago/Houston, you’ll need to wait another 45 days.

New York, at that point, will still be getting containers from before April 10th, they will then have 50 days (May 31 minus April 10) of zero economic activity at the ports, in trucking of Chinese goods, in warehousing.

The whole situation is a bit like lockdowns. Once you shut down, it takes a long time to get economic activity back to where it was, if you ever can.

And again, this assumes, that China and its factories, which make things you can’t buy elsewhere, will start right back up again as though nothing happened, which is unlikely.

It’s almost like we’re speeding towards a brick wall but the driver of the car doesn’t see it yet.

By the time he does, it’ll be too late to hit the brakes.


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2/39
@greggcarey
@Jason please read these closely.



3/39
@caseyames
And this completely ignores the supply chain shock well see if everyone starts shipping shyt again at the same time.

I know you know that, but it'll 100% be a reality even in the best case



4/39
@endurise8
Transport is one thing but do you know if manufacturing has stopped in China



5/39
@cryptosmiff
@chamath says send a fat check and theyll listen



6/39
@Thrasymachus5
@threadreaderapp unroll thread



7/39
@KingBob53
It gets the layoffs the FED is desperately seeking

Sad but the truth



8/39
@Lilli8947
@threadreaderapp unroll



9/39
@RZ_3_
What are major retailers like Walmart, Home Depot etc all planning to do? Still shipping and will raise prices? Pause, allow stocks outs?



10/39
@Glen_Evans_01
well-deserved follow.



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11/39
@waters_deng
Our government has been focused on tearing down China instead of building up America. It's the wrong approach. If we invest half of the money that we use to fight foreign wars, we can modernize our infrastructure and rebuild our manufacturing sector without tariff wars.



12/39
@KurtisHanni
This last year+ has been a dream.

I meet with business owners daily to look for financial solutions.

We help them:
1. Optimize their cash flow
2. Create more profit
3. Pay less taxes

But more than anything, we’re a strategic partner and coach.

Someone they turn to when they don’t know the answer. When the times get tough.

I’ve had more than one business owner tell me they’re sleeping better, more present when with family, and feel like they’re finally in control of their business (instead of it controlling them).

I can’t imagine anything more rewarding.

For people watching from the sidelines, it seems like an overnight success.

But in reality, it came after a 15+ year career of day-in and day-out partnering with my CEOs as a full-time CFO.

Now instead of building one business at a time, I get to help many at the same time!

Today, I’m headed to meet with a group of other business owners to learn and grow together.

I am truly living the dream!



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13/39
@WojtekSar
It's not even about the transport industry, because that's the tip of the iceberg. The production industry will suffer even more, because some elements won't reach the factory on time and the lines will have to be stopped, this will cause downtime, quality problems - layoffs



14/39
@JoaodosReisAlb1
I know how a refrigerator works.



15/39
@Fly_Sistah
I was told years ago to "be a student of the business", basically understand every aspect of how your company works & how products reach customers. So many people have no idea what's about to happen.

[Quoted tweet]
Trump said he’d impose a baseline 60% tariff on Chinese exports. Laptop prices could spike by 50%. The cost of video game consoles could rise around 40%, making the upcoming PS5 Pro cost almost $1,000. The Switch 2 may be backward compatible, but it may cost quite a bit more.


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16/39
@HughEdw54983916
There are ways. Anyone who has worked in logistics in Russia can explain.



17/39
@Tarde_WaterBear
purchasing depts, buyers, accountants who deal with inventory/production costs know.
it doesn't take much to destroy even a small part of that supply chain & when it breaks it's absolutely H*LL getting needed vital parts for MRP needs.
although Recession KILLS production needs🤣



18/39
@FinDataByLig
@SeanDuffyWI @howardlutnick



19/39
@fullmoon6661
I thought refrigerators were quite well understood lol



20/39
@FormFollowsFctn
Whaddya mean nobody knows how a refrigerator works?



21/39
@GerauDub
It may be the biggest economic shock to the US since lock down but there will be billions to be made exploiting this situation.



22/39
@mavy85
Does it bring more goods to other parts of the world? Ships will have soon some free capacity.



23/39
@VictorishB123
The "bring back manufacturing" rhetoric from the admin puzzles me. US manufacturing output has been increasing. What has been in decline is number of people working in manufacturing but that seems to be by choice. We have 500,000 unfilled openings and 1 million expected by 2030.



24/39
@carrybeyond
And you’re not supposed to turn a refrigerator off.



25/39
@LucasPacioli1
Yet a good faith effort to understand basic HVAC concepts explains how refrigerators work. Same with supply chains.



26/39
@Heather20164
Agreed I used to work in the industry and I did for 18 years. The other problem is with LTL companies who may possibly have a delivery somewhere they will come back empty and the ruins the whole pricing system so rates will go up. Same goes for anything in the air



27/39
@Laxman35895072
@SecScottBessent
@POTUS
@realDonaldTrump



28/39
@driszhor
I know how refrigerators work.



29/39
@TedLohr
CTR’s are like your Tupperware. Everyone has too much to fit in their storage drawer. So there needs to some in the drawer, some in use in the fridge, and some in the dishwasher. We are now approaching a moment (like Covid) where all the CTR’s will be in the wrong places



30/39
@Oof86583180
Like the Defense of Department did, we're gonna find a lot of intermediate goods is Chinese stuff rebadged "Made in the US".



31/39
@Bitcoinsyrup
Respectfully, you have a decent grasp of 2nd and 3rd order downstream effects. However, you assume you see all the variables the administration sees, and you just dont. You can't make these blanket statements without having an even higher overview.



32/39
@plantifull
thank you for sharing and doing what you can to help online



33/39
@CapitalFixation
Can you buy your way to a conversation with the trump coins? Not kidding.



34/39
@beverlyray8700
Dangerous malignant narcissist driving the car toward the cliff.



35/39
@smartalek180
Followed for factuality.



36/39
@TurbulentTimes7
47 is turning into a disaster. Cacklin Kamala would've been better than this utter 💩 show disappointment.



37/39
@KratoskaPeter
Not just jobs in trucking, warehousing but in the stores. Do you think Walmart will keep people standing around? Americas 3 biggest employers Walmart, Amazon, Home Depot, lowes, target.... Dollar stores.



38/39
@GordonChum29691
It is a controlled demolition of the economy.
"You will own nothing, and be happy."
(that you're still alive)



39/39
@VelvetFucsia
Cartels are going to jump at this new opportunity & hopefully diminish their fentanyl & other illicit drug operations. @Mercadolibre /search?q=#MELI stands to benefit




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1/35
🇺 lizzy-tish.bsky.social
Not a single international cargo ship at the Port of Seattle. The port is dead. The last ship from China will dock at a West coast port on the 29th, and the last Chinese ship will dock on the East coast around May 10th. After that, there will be no more shipments arriving from China. We’re screwed.
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2/35
🇺 richardhanley.bsky.social
Let's not forget that the International Longshoremen's Union endorsed Trump, with the ILA president stating "He’s a hero to our ILA union and members."

3/35
🇺 melred.bsky.social
Bet they're regretting that.

4/35
🇺 turboe4truth.bsky.social
Holy shyt. What’s maga going to do then? FAFO.

5/35
🇺 ca-nc-galady.bsky.social
Wait till China decides to call in their debt. They own a vast majority of the Oligarchs, their businesses, and the US debt.

6/35
🇺 godpatton.bsky.social
they own very little of the us debt.
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7/35
🇺 seancuff.bsky.social
$5.3T (15%) sounds like a lot though.

8/35
🇺 dr-rrr.bsky.social
Oddly, I welcome the pain. I think only a massive meltdown will turn the cult against Trump.

9/35
🇺 jamesw228.bsky.social
It won't though, he'll blame someone else and they'll lap it up

10/35
🇺 frankypelvis.bsky.social
He’s already losing Independents who backed him. Tariffs are not as abstract to voters as the financial instruments that caused the 2008 financial crisis. Here Trump is recklessly raising taxes on imports, therefore shyt is expensive and scarce. Dems could fumble, as usual, but he’s not invincible

11/35
🇺 pdxcharlie.bsky.social
spot on! Visceral vs abstract is the key to understanding how voters respond to events. ALWAYS

12/35
🇺 butlerkc09.bsky.social
And how sad is that?

13/35
🇺 pdxcharlie.bsky.social
A lot. But it is the undeniable state of the world. A full third of our fellow citizens cannot grasp that slashing basic science research is a bad thing *unless* you explicitly detail that means a cancer that they get in 10 years will become a death sentence...

14/35
🇺 keithmclean3.bsky.social
The pullback on mRNA research alone will cost so many lives. It's hard to imagine any functioning modern society passing on the chance of defeating one of our greatest scourges.

15/35
🇺 ashles.bsky.social
The President will just instruct the Attorney General or the Head of the FBI to arrest China or something...

16/35
🇺 salingera.bsky.social
A seattle pedestrian: "I don't see any cargo ships in Elliott Bay".
Econmists: "We still don't see hard data signaling a downturn".

17/35
🇺 noahsbwilliams.com
It’s me. Hi. I’m the pedestrian, it’s me.

18/35
🇺 songexplorer.bsky.social
The fact that he (and his minions) thought he could slap other world leaders around is both hilarious and terrifying.

19/35
🇺 reiveronethree.bsky.social
But it always worked when he was dealing with mobbed up New Jersey concrete contractors.

Weird

20/35
🇺 kellyh-c.bsky.social
Trump has been allowed by the US system to be a criminal his entire life. Why would he expect otherwise?

21/35
🇺 songexplorer.bsky.social
Correct. He should been in jail for his crimes!

22/35
🇺 saschavykos.bsky.social
Decades ago! If we had dealt with rich people crimes seriously, probably none of this would be happening.

23/35
🇺 johnlopez2.bsky.social
If the ports really are shutting down like that, it’s going to have a massive ripple effect on everything: supply chains, stores, manufacturing, even basic goods availability.

24/35
🇺 gazzalw63.bsky.social
Thats the point and what Trump wanted but of course its not very clever is it

25/35
🇺 sciencevinman.bsky.social
No worries as by May 10th all the new factories will be built in the US and churning out all the products we need. /s

26/35
🇺 253con.bsky.social
🤣

27/35
🇺 jdfg.bsky.social
And 39% of Americans still think he is doing a good job!

28/35
🇺 elonishorrible.bsky.social
Yes. It's astounding. But it is rapidly trending downward. 1st Quarter GDP on April 30th. Should knock off a few more points. If they were rational it would knock off 15 points, but they're not rational. It's diving into the people who actually believe he was chosen by gawd. And I mean believe that.

29/35
🇺 gazzalw63.bsky.social
Tariffs are working then and all those losing their jobs will be finding out

30/35
🇺 lumin8.bsky.social
Meanwhile the port of Manzanillo Mexico is jammed with ships.

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🇺 saschavykos.bsky.social
Hey when we all have to flee the mass arrests, Mexico will at least be booming.

If they let us which if I were them I would not lol

32/35
🇺 philipptpunkt.bsky.social
Eventually Mexico WILL build the wall 🤣🤣🤣

33/35
🇺 professor-recipes.bsky.social
And likely with cheap & plentiful American migrant labour!

34/35
🇺 bo-tally68.bsky.social
Trump has taken a prosperous , #1 World Class economy and reduced it to a flaming shamble. “Very great are the numbers of the Stupid”, said Galileo.

35/35
🇺 btlcat.bsky.social
But we also hear that "it was a house of cards -- about to come down any moment!" -- so of course they had to burn it down to remove any evidence to the contrary.

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1/14
🇺 paleofuture.bsky.social
Gary Cohn says the impact of tariffs aren't going to really hit for another 2-4 weeks.

"The vast majority of small business toy stores cannot order toys today because they cannot afford the 145% tariff. [...] They're either going out of business or they're just going to wait and see what happens."
https://video.bsky.app/watch/did:pl...pggh3okx4q72t2ijhytyey37r5jdcme/playlist.m3u8

2/14
🇺 rakista.bsky.social
$100 widgets for our lab are now 2-3x the price.

Completely unsustainable.

3/14
🇺 acmegamesltd.bsky.social
He’s wrong they’re already hitting. I bought something April 12 because I knew the price was going to go up soon and it’s already gone up.

4/14
🇺 dalekchap.bsky.social
I read our import warehouses are down to roughly 65% of where they should be. There are only a two loaded container ships from China docking in the US over next few days.
Then THATS IT!! Nothing.
65% will be 0% by August.
It’s not just toys, folks, it’s components, packaging materials, manuals, etc.

5/14
🇺 megaforte84.bsky.social
And meanwhile customers either don't see it coming or are getting things while they still can (which looks like consumer confidence instead of 'shopping like it's the first week of March 2020 but you know exactly what's coming, and savings don't help if it's no longer for sale' lack of it).

6/14
🇺 mikeconte.com
Correct. Container shops are slow. But big.

7/14
🇺 ajduden.bsky.social
Think of all that beautiful, clean coal in stockings this year at Christmas! It's not just for "bad" kids anymore, it's made in the USA!

8/14
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https://www.seattletimes.com/busine...-has-seattle-waiting-for-the-ships-to-come-in

10/14
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Chinese Cargo Ship Arrivals Drop Sharply At 2 Of America’s Busiest Ports

11/14
🇺 carljungfranz.bsky.social
The Trump “reality show” is all about feeding lies to the MAGA faithful.

When the economic Great Depression 2.0 “second coming” arrives, the Trump administration reality show will be seen for what it is.

Even the MAGA cult camp followers will have a epiphany of their Trump messiah with clay feet.

12/14
🇺 dalekchap.bsky.social
What about:
Cheeto tells his flock that it was due to Canada stealing our money, then he attacks Canada with full maga and govt. support. Total distraction from his financial stuff.
Then he owns Canada.
Govt.Support - Streamlined Support for Government Agencies

13/14
🇺 ridgecaples.bsky.social
Great job America! I guess chaos and government dysfunction are what you wanted.

14/14
🇺 fredgrott.bsky.social
translation Mother's Day and Memorial Day....

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🇺 paleofuture.bsky.social
Gary Cohn says the impact of tariffs aren't going to really hit for another 2-4 weeks.

"The vast majority of small business toy stores cannot order toys today because they cannot afford the 145% tariff. [...] They're either going out of business or they're just going to wait and see what happens."
https://video.bsky.app/watch/did:pl...pggh3okx4q72t2ijhytyey37r5jdcme/playlist.m3u8

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🇺 dalekchap.bsky.social
I read our import warehouses are down to roughly 65% of where they should be. There are only a two loaded container ships from China docking in the US over next few days.
Then THATS IT!! Nothing.
65% will be 0% by August.
It’s not just toys, folks, it’s components, packaging materials, manuals, etc.

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Donald Trump announces tariffs to continue and replace taxes - Red Monday likely




Commented on Sun Apr 27 16:50:45 2025 UTC

So, when all the jobs have been created, and all manufacturing is back home. Where will the money come from?


│ Commented on Sun Apr 27 16:57:18 2025 UTC

│ A. We are at peak employment.
│ B. We are already manufacturing more than ever in U.S. history.
│ C. This is the insane ramblings of dementia

│ Edit: yes, he is the worst narcissist the world has seen In a hundred years.
 
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