I don't need admission to any circles tbh, that's not how I rock. only girl I communicate with is my girlfriend, others really don't exist,
You think black feminists got their wakeup call?
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I don't need admission to any circles tbh, that's not how I rock. only girl I communicate with is my girlfriend, others really don't exist,
Scott Larock
Its hard leaving thecoli but I gotta find a way...
Black feminism it's a flawed discussion it's rare for a women to disrespect and leave a man of her same race. Asian women do it a lot now and you see what's happening to China.
Not secret why trump is talking shyt about China every second.
PartyHeart
All Star
This isn't true and is documented. From accounts by Sojourner Truth to women from the Panther movement. We've been oppressed for being Black and women since forever and still are. You keep trying to insult me and spending all this time trying to deny this truth says everything about you that it doesn't about me.
She isn't even African American, B. She is some foreign Black acting like she knows the real struggle of those of us who have been on this land for centuries. Its hilarious.
It's nothing but game bruh. They paint patriarchy as this evil system that oppresses women to justify rejecting it. White women are arguably the most privileged people on the planet right now, and they just reinvested in patriarchy because they understand that patriarchy privileges them.
Indiglow Meta (R$G)
Ultra.
The Panther movement was infiltrated by an admitted WHITE FEMALE CIA attache named Gloria Steinem.
Black men didn't take pictures with her. Black men didn't fraternize with a CIA agent.
Black men didn't take pictures with her. Black men didn't fraternize with a CIA agent.
If she was from here she'd realize the black community a matriarch anyway. My moms was a single mom, my moms was raised by my great grandma. My pops dad dissapeared. My aunt raised her seeds solo. This talking point like they being oppressed and under represented is silly. No community on planet earth gives more DESERVED reverence to their women. And if you want to cry about nikkas being bad fathers and such, thats you who had his baby. Its not too hard to not have kids, shyt goes both ways. But if it happens you end up having a child with usually the mother being the head of the house. This is so prevalent in the black community how the fukk could you ever say we are a patriarch? Brehs lives are shorter, have less education, more likely to end up in the system. but we we benefit from the patriachy and are agents of toxic masculinity (this is such a retarded term for a actual problem). Black feminists are really just sisters who havent met a trill brother to show them they on bullshyt and need to chill. My girl a black feminist apparently but she for sure save all that rah rah shyt for her sjw white friends and girls. She come to me and I give her the real. Its been months since I heard anything other than fukk whitey from her. And thats how it should be.
Black Nate Grey
The God Emperor of Mankind
Racism and Sexism that oppresses black women does not come from black men though, it comes from white men who have all the power.
Yet Black feminists Do Not Go After White Men.
That's why they are pawns. White feminists and Black feminists team up to take out Black Men (who generally have no power) as opposed to the one actually actively oppressing you.
Money (to an extent) > Race >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gender.
Black feminists got played this election, as they always have and always will.
Black Nate Grey
The God Emperor of Mankind
Black feminism is the only movement that willfully allies itself with white people, their oppressors.
Under the pretense of sisterhood.
Astonishing.
Under the pretense of sisterhood.
Astonishing.
Indiglow Meta (R$G)
Ultra.
https://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/p20-570.pdf
Look at bell hooks sitting with her QUENTIN MILLER.
PartyHeart
All Star
So if a father abandoning his kids and leaving the mother to be the head of the household because she has no other choice is a matriarchy, would BW abandoning their children in en masse and leaving them with Black men to raise on their own be the patriarchy you guys are seeking?
Most womanists say fukk whitey though. You all need to stop with this we're partners with white people foolishness. Again, you'd be better served to talk about womanists being insular and not trusting WW, WM, or BM alike than pretending we're besties with WW.
Indiglow Meta (R$G)
Ultra.
OOOH, what's this about?
Gloria Steinem on the Relationship Between the Black Power and Women's Liberation Movements -- New York Magazine
After Black Power, Women's Liberation
From the April 4, 1969 issue of New York Magazine.
Once upon a time—say, ten or even five years ago—a Liberated Woman was somebody who had sex before marriage and a job afterward. Once upon the same time, a Liberated Zone was any foreign place lucky enough to have an American army in it. Both ideas seem antiquated now, and for pretty much the same reason: Liberation isn't exposure to the American values of Mom-and-apple-pie anymore (not even if Mom is allowed to work in an office and vote once in a while); it's the escape from them.
For instance:
Barnard girls move quietly, unlasciviously into the men's dorms at Columbia; a student sleep-in to protest the absence of "rational communities"—co-ed dorms like those already springing up at other universities.
Wives and mothers march around the Hudson Street alimony jail with posters announcing they don't want alimony.
A coven of 13 members of WITCH (The Women's International Terrorist Conspiracy from Hell, celebrating witches and gypsies as the first women resistance fighters) demonstrates against that bastion of white male supremacy: Wall Street. The next day, the market falls five points.
More witches and some black-veiled brides invade the Bridal Fair at Madison Square Garden. They carry signs ("Confront the Whore-makers," "Here Comes the Bribe"), sing, shout, release white mice in the audience of would-be brides, and generally scare the living daylights out of exhibitors who are trying to market the conventional delights of bridal gowns, kitchen appliances, package-deal honeymoon trips and heart-shaped swimming pools.
At the end of the Columbia strike, the student-run Liberation School offers a course on women as an oppressed class. Discussions include the parallel myths about women and Negroes (that both have smaller brains than white men, childlike natures, natural "goodness," limited rationality, supportive roles to white men, etc.); the paternalistic family system as prototype for capitalistic society (see Marx and Engels); the conclusion that society can't be restructured until the relationship between the sexes is restructured. Men are kept out of the class, but it is bigger and lasts longer than any other at the school.
Redstockings, an action group in the Women's Liberation Movement, sponsors a one-act play about abortion by the New Feminist Theatre (whose purpose it is to point out how many plays are anti-woman and how tough it is for women playwrights, directors, producers), plus two hours of personal and detailed testimony—in public—by girls who have had abortions and Tell It Like It Is, from humor through sadism. Nobody wants to reform the abortion laws; they want to repeal them. Completely.
What do women want? The above events are in no way connected to the Bloomingdale-centered, ask-not-what I-can-do-for-myself-ask-what-my-husband-can-do-for-me ladies of Manhattan, who are said by sociologists to be "liberated." Nor do the house-bound matriarchs of Queens and the Bronx get much satisfaction out of reading about feminist escapades. On the contrary, the whole thing alienates them by being a) radical and b) young.
The women behind it, and influenced by it, usually turn out to be white, serious, well-educated girls; the same sort who have labored hard in what is loosely known as the Movement, from the Southern sit-ins of nine years ago to the current attacks on the military-industrial-educational complex. They have been jailed, beaten and Maced side-by-side with their social-activist male counterparts. (It's wonderful to see how quickly police from Selma to Chicago get over a reluctance to hit women.) They have marched on Senate committees, Pentagon hawks, their own college presidents and the Chase Manhattan Bank. But once back in the bosom of SDS , they found themselves typing and making coffee.
"When it comes to decision-making or being taken seriously in meetings," said one revolutionary theorist from Berkeley, "we might as well join the Young Republicans."
Such grumbling noises were being made aloud at Movement meetings as early as five years ago. but women were ridiculed or argued down by men (as well as some "Uncle Tom" women). Eventually, they were assured, "the woman question" would come up on the list of radical priorities—as decided on by radical men. Meanwhile, more backstage work, more mimeographing, more secondary role-playing around the revolutionary cells and apartment-communes. And, to be honest, more reluctance to leave the secondary role and lose male approval.
Finally, women began to "rap" (talk, analyze, in radical-ese) about their essential second-classness, forming women's caucuses inside the Movement in much the same way Black Power groups had done. And once together they made a lot of discoveries: that they shared more problems with women of different classes, for instance, than they did with men of their own; that they liked and respected each other (if women don't want to work with women, as Negroes used to reject other Negroes, it's usually because they believe the myth of their own inferiority), and that, as black militants kept explaining to white liberals, "You don't get radicalized fighting other people's battles."
Gloria Steinem on the Relationship Between the Black Power and Women's Liberation Movements -- New York Magazine
After Black Power, Women's Liberation
From the April 4, 1969 issue of New York Magazine.
Once upon a time—say, ten or even five years ago—a Liberated Woman was somebody who had sex before marriage and a job afterward. Once upon the same time, a Liberated Zone was any foreign place lucky enough to have an American army in it. Both ideas seem antiquated now, and for pretty much the same reason: Liberation isn't exposure to the American values of Mom-and-apple-pie anymore (not even if Mom is allowed to work in an office and vote once in a while); it's the escape from them.
For instance:
Barnard girls move quietly, unlasciviously into the men's dorms at Columbia; a student sleep-in to protest the absence of "rational communities"—co-ed dorms like those already springing up at other universities.
Wives and mothers march around the Hudson Street alimony jail with posters announcing they don't want alimony.
A coven of 13 members of WITCH (The Women's International Terrorist Conspiracy from Hell, celebrating witches and gypsies as the first women resistance fighters) demonstrates against that bastion of white male supremacy: Wall Street. The next day, the market falls five points.
More witches and some black-veiled brides invade the Bridal Fair at Madison Square Garden. They carry signs ("Confront the Whore-makers," "Here Comes the Bribe"), sing, shout, release white mice in the audience of would-be brides, and generally scare the living daylights out of exhibitors who are trying to market the conventional delights of bridal gowns, kitchen appliances, package-deal honeymoon trips and heart-shaped swimming pools.
At the end of the Columbia strike, the student-run Liberation School offers a course on women as an oppressed class. Discussions include the parallel myths about women and Negroes (that both have smaller brains than white men, childlike natures, natural "goodness," limited rationality, supportive roles to white men, etc.); the paternalistic family system as prototype for capitalistic society (see Marx and Engels); the conclusion that society can't be restructured until the relationship between the sexes is restructured. Men are kept out of the class, but it is bigger and lasts longer than any other at the school.
Redstockings, an action group in the Women's Liberation Movement, sponsors a one-act play about abortion by the New Feminist Theatre (whose purpose it is to point out how many plays are anti-woman and how tough it is for women playwrights, directors, producers), plus two hours of personal and detailed testimony—in public—by girls who have had abortions and Tell It Like It Is, from humor through sadism. Nobody wants to reform the abortion laws; they want to repeal them. Completely.
What do women want? The above events are in no way connected to the Bloomingdale-centered, ask-not-what I-can-do-for-myself-ask-what-my-husband-can-do-for-me ladies of Manhattan, who are said by sociologists to be "liberated." Nor do the house-bound matriarchs of Queens and the Bronx get much satisfaction out of reading about feminist escapades. On the contrary, the whole thing alienates them by being a) radical and b) young.
The women behind it, and influenced by it, usually turn out to be white, serious, well-educated girls; the same sort who have labored hard in what is loosely known as the Movement, from the Southern sit-ins of nine years ago to the current attacks on the military-industrial-educational complex. They have been jailed, beaten and Maced side-by-side with their social-activist male counterparts. (It's wonderful to see how quickly police from Selma to Chicago get over a reluctance to hit women.) They have marched on Senate committees, Pentagon hawks, their own college presidents and the Chase Manhattan Bank. But once back in the bosom of SDS , they found themselves typing and making coffee.
"When it comes to decision-making or being taken seriously in meetings," said one revolutionary theorist from Berkeley, "we might as well join the Young Republicans."
Such grumbling noises were being made aloud at Movement meetings as early as five years ago. but women were ridiculed or argued down by men (as well as some "Uncle Tom" women). Eventually, they were assured, "the woman question" would come up on the list of radical priorities—as decided on by radical men. Meanwhile, more backstage work, more mimeographing, more secondary role-playing around the revolutionary cells and apartment-communes. And, to be honest, more reluctance to leave the secondary role and lose male approval.
Finally, women began to "rap" (talk, analyze, in radical-ese) about their essential second-classness, forming women's caucuses inside the Movement in much the same way Black Power groups had done. And once together they made a lot of discoveries: that they shared more problems with women of different classes, for instance, than they did with men of their own; that they liked and respected each other (if women don't want to work with women, as Negroes used to reject other Negroes, it's usually because they believe the myth of their own inferiority), and that, as black militants kept explaining to white liberals, "You don't get radicalized fighting other people's battles."
Piff Perkins
Veteran
Why do you associate feminism - in this case black feminism - with "throwing (black) men under the bus?"
Black Nate Grey
The God Emperor of Mankind
Because they willfully ally with white women and together attempt to disparage black men.
Never mind the fact white men are the ones oppressing both.
Why you putting words in my mouth. I havent advocated for a patriarchy at all.So if a father abandoning his kids and leaving the mother to be the head of the household because she has no other choice is a matriarchy, would BW abandoning their children in en masse and leaving them with Black men to raise on their own be the patriarchy you guys are seeking?
Most womanists say fukk whitey though. You all need to stop with this we're partners with white people foolishness. Again, you'd be better served to talk about womanists being insular and not trusting WW, WM, or BM alike than pretending we're besties with WW.