Kenny West
Veteran
these dumb ass birds really beleive europeans invented the idea of the father heading a two parent household
this the bullshyt yall tell each other in these womens studies classes
You think black feminists got their wakeup call?
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this the bullshyt yall tell each other in these womens studies classes
If you think human social dynamics are bullshyt that's fine, everyone can have their opinion. I'm sure its just a weird quirk that 53% of white women just told the world they'd rather have a known and proven sexist run america than a fellow feminist.
If you don't think men wouldn't be comfortable being free of the pressure and expectation to provide that's your perception of reality. I thought of Kris jenner instantly because we all laugh at Corey Gamble but behind the anonymity of the internet a lot of guys were admitting they'd take the chance to have millions of dollars, live in a nice home and play happy family to kids that arent even theirs in a heartbeat. And it doesn't even have to be a super rich or famous woman. Sit a man down and lay out the hypothetical scenario, he's got the opportunity to stay at home, no work required and he's also fully confident his girl wont just leave him for the first alpha male that knocks on their door. You'll start feeling that vast quantity then, I promise you.
If black women want to be mad at black men for not being able to provide, who can stop them? No one. But don't give me that "men wont be a house bytch" when most women would sooner become cat lady spinsters before they see their man in an apron
I don't' think you have the experience of trying raising a black family to debate this topic with me.
I didn't say whites created patriarchy but you're a fool to believe that the definition of patriarchy for white Americans isn't education/income focused. That is a hurdle that impacts BOTH black men and women. You're trying to take an ancient ideal and apply to a current situation and the shyt is clearly not working. At the end of the day, a leader is NOT the person that makes the most money. It never will be.
Bullshyt. I don't agree with you and we can leave it at that.
I'm gonna make some brehettes mad, but they need to hear this shyt.
Black feminist are dumb.
They were fooled by the true agenda of 3rd wave feminism. White women played black feminist.
They sent them to attack BM by feeding them words and attacks that white women could never say themselves for fear of being called a racist.
They asked pointed questions like
"Aren't you black women tired of black men cat-calling you?"
"Aren't you black women tired of black men being violent towards you?"
"Aren't you black women tired of black men not being their for your children?"
And black feminist ate that shyt right up.
And the reason why they were so eager to become the attack dogs of the feminism movement is because they were thoroughly convinced that they had a true ally in white women.
They were convinced that these white women would put their gender before their race.
Nope... not even close.
White women would rather be white men than be black women.
Some of you are saying "When it came down to choose, race or gender, they chose race".
Well you're half right, but it didn't "come down" to anything. They didn't just recently choose their race over of their gender... they chose a long ass time ago. They have been using black women to dismantle black men for years. This didn't just develop over the past week.
The 3rd Wave has been doing the job of White Supremacy since its inception.
The sad thing is that it enlisted the aid of naive black women to assist.
I am willing to debate this with anyone
Black feminist are dumb.
They were fooled by the true agenda of 3rd wave feminism. White women played black feminist.
They sent them to attack BM by feeding them words and attacks that white women could never say themselves for fear of being called a racist.
They asked pointed questions like
"Aren't you black women tired of black men cat-calling you?"
"Aren't you black women tired of black men being violent towards you?"
"Aren't you black women tired of black men not being their for your children?"
And black feminist ate that shyt right up.
And the reason why they were so eager to become the attack dogs of the feminism movement is because they were thoroughly convinced that they had a true ally in white women.
They were convinced that these white women would put their gender before their race.
Nope... not even close.
White women would rather be white men than be black women.
Some of you are saying "When it came down to choose, race or gender, they chose race".
Well you're half right, but it didn't "come down" to anything. They didn't just recently choose their race over of their gender... they chose a long ass time ago. They have been using black women to dismantle black men for years. This didn't just develop over the past week.
The 3rd Wave has been doing the job of White Supremacy since its inception.
The sad thing is that it enlisted the aid of naive black women to assist.
I am willing to debate this with anyone
Alright then. Return to your feminist bubble world where you can call reality bullshyt and it doesn't mean anything that even the very woman who invented the Lean In catchphrase is now dating a billionaire alpha male
PartyHeart
All Star
I appreciate you trying to understand my perspective but I don't think you did. But I do think its a step in the right direction to try to conversation where insults aren't hurled despite the fact that based on your posts, I know we won't agree with each other. Here we go:
No, there are not as many bad BW as there are BM. BW are not abusing and killing each other or BM at the same levels as the reverse. BM must stop hiding from these truths if they want to actually improve the community. Stop thinking it absolves us as BW of the horrible behavioral practices we have either, because it doest. But we can't attack a problem without accepting the whole truth.
I also don't know what you mean about Black women having more of a platform. How? You have much more social currency and power than we do. Its just you often use it to our detriment as a community (referring to music and film/tv). But in sports there is starting to be a resurgence of you using that social currency positively which is great.
Politically, you have more influence there too and always have. We just saw the first BW senator voted in since 1999 and she's just the second ever. There have been many BM in that seat, to the tune of 9. The gap is even bigger in the House and Supreme Court. You've also been elected POTUS. We've never even had the support to make nominee. You also lead politically on a community level, as you head churches, boards, more than we do.
Economically, well you have seen the stats. Despite all Black women's strides in education, you still make more and have far more wealth.
This is all a result of male privilege that, no, does not magically skip over you. We aren't favored over you and never have been because we live in a white patriarchal society. Despite being hated for your race, you will always be on the favored side of things when it comes to gender, even if unintentionally. Whether you want to accept that privilege is up to you the same way it is up to white people to accept theirs, but it exists and there is overwhelming evidence to show it does.
I can't speak for gays, but BW are not just being given jobs by white supremacy. We earn it. You guys should stop trying to patronize BW or reduce our hard work to some fake favoritism when we are easily put at the bottom of the favoritism pile considering we are both women and Black.
Please understand you don't have to actively be controlling the structure of oppression to benefit from it. White women were able to vote as they always have instead of changing their behavior to vote against Trump because even though they don't control white supremacy entirely, they still benefit from its provisions often because of their whiteness. Similarly, just because black men don't actively control patriarchy and sexism (at least here in the US) they do benefit from its provisions sometimes because of their maleness.
Asking Black women to sacrifice and accept being lesser than based on either thing is not something a growing number of Black women are interested in. If you can't understand how that takes away from our humanity and is an unreasonable expectation, in my opinion, again I am making sure to speak for me, we will never be on the same page.
Indiglow Meta (R$G)
Ultra.
I tried, we're done here.
I didn't say any of that, ask any of that, and you're putting shyt on me I didn't talk about.
I'm sorry you wasted your time responding but this was an exercise in futility on both of your parts. I still love you, whoever you are, because you are ME, and I don't know you from Adam. Have a wonderful life.
You are a shining example of what White Supremacy (masquerading under the guise of "feminism") can accomplish.
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Indiglow Meta (R$G)
Ultra.
@PartyHeart
You're a terrible person for discrediting the accomplishments of black men in this white ass society saying it was because they were MEN.
Men compete AGAINST men. Men FEAR other men's power and ability. Men don't like DIFFERENT MEN in their spaces around their WOMEN.
Yet these MEN, despite being former slaves of another group of MEN managed to use skill, intelligence, and social maneuvering to become PEERS of those MEN (in a way...and you know why
).
Who benefited off of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION The most? White women! 2nd? BLACK WOMEN. Y'all occupy middle management like a mofo, too. Be mad at collective choices and that stupid sistagurl network. It's anti black man, and it's disintegrating. Good.
You have the sheer audacity to discredit the black man competing against white men and white women at a disadvantage, with no SOCIAL PROGRAMS...no social CONDITIONING...and no social BUFFERS protecting them. White daddy is not for me. I can't use his assistance at all.
Get over yourself, buppie. You haven't even been through half the shyt you complain about. The concept pisses you off. I've been incarcerated. My life is real.
You're a terrible person for discrediting the accomplishments of black men in this white ass society saying it was because they were MEN.
Men compete AGAINST men. Men FEAR other men's power and ability. Men don't like DIFFERENT MEN in their spaces around their WOMEN.
Yet these MEN, despite being former slaves of another group of MEN managed to use skill, intelligence, and social maneuvering to become PEERS of those MEN (in a way...and you know why
).Who benefited off of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION The most? White women! 2nd? BLACK WOMEN. Y'all occupy middle management like a mofo, too. Be mad at collective choices and that stupid sistagurl network. It's anti black man, and it's disintegrating. Good.
You have the sheer audacity to discredit the black man competing against white men and white women at a disadvantage, with no SOCIAL PROGRAMS...no social CONDITIONING...and no social BUFFERS protecting them. White daddy is not for me. I can't use his assistance at all.
Get over yourself, buppie. You haven't even been through half the shyt you complain about. The concept pisses you off. I've been incarcerated. My life is real.
@PartyHeart
You're a terrible person for discrediting the accomplishments of black men in this white ass society saying it was because they were MEN.
Men compete AGAINST men. Men FEAR other men's power and ability. Men don't like DIFFERENT MEN in their spaces around their WOMEN.
Yet these MEN, despite being former slaves of another group of MEN managed to use skill, intelligence, and social maneuvering to become PEERS of those MEN (in a way...and you know why
Who benefited off of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION The most? White women! 2nd? BLACK WOMEN. Y'all occupy middle management like a mofo, too. Be mad at collective choices and that stupid sistagurl network. It's anti black man, and it's disintegrating. Good.
You have the sheer audacity to discredit the black man competing against white men and white women at a disadvantage, with no SOCIAL PROGRAMS...no social CONDITIONING...and no social BUFFERS protecting them. White daddy is not for me. I can't use his assistance at all.
Get over yourself, buppie. You haven't even been through half the shyt you complain about. The concept pisses you off. I've been incarcerated. My life is real.
This truth will fall on deaf ears...
I means she is literally acting like black men never had to deal with racism and white supremacy because we are men
She's lost. Hopefully in the future she'll realize that black men are not her true enemy, but as of now she just needs to figure out some shyt on her own.
Look at all this Black female privilege under White male patriarchy
. You live longer than us, are more likely to have a job, more likely to get government assistance, more likely to have a college degeree and more likely to have a salary closer to your intraracial partner but its the evil Black man you must be against 
"Minority women in particular are far more likely than their male counterparts to have used food stamps. About four-in-ten black women (39%) have gotten help compared with 21% of black men."
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...cs-and-demographics-of-food-stamp-recipients/
"There were about 2.04 million adults living in TANF households in FY 2010. 33 percent were African-American. Most TANF adult recipients were women, as men only represented 14.8 percent of adult recipients. "
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ofa/resource/character/fy2010/fy2010-chap10-ys-final
http://nlihc.org/sites/default/files/HousingSpotlight2-2.pdf