You think Vado would've succeeded more if he just stayed with Cam?

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eh...Cam and Vado shyt ran its course.

Cam got Vado to where he wanted to get Vado...on the cusp and it was up to Vado to kick on and he didn't so he had to start over again with Khaled and that hasn't worked out either...the common denominator in that is Vado.

Cam got him buzzing, took him everywhere, had a couple of joints that rung off in the tri-state, bulldozed the XXL Freshman concert to showcase Vado, got him to perform at SummerJam after the crowd went crazy for Cam, labels wanted him and Vado went with Interscope because Dipset nearly signed to Interscope and once he got that major deal Cam pretty much said its over to you now..i'm not holding your hand through this shyt.

shyt got sticky...Vado didn't like being an Eastcoast artist on a Westcoast label, then thats when all the comments started happening and people were in Vado's ear etc about people finding Cam hard to deal with etc he was getting swayed so being shyt went left and Cam was done with him..like someone said before..when Cam says he done with someone, he's done with them so Cam basically sold him to Khaled.

:yeshrug:

Vado got to have his little bit of fame, his buzz, he was well liked, had the cars, was smashing these hoes, had Yee damn near chasing him.
got to be the man in his hood for a little bit but seems like he just doesn't have the drive like that..he prolly knows himself he could have did more.

Vado seems like a good guy, you wanted to see him win.

what Dave is doing now, bridging the gap between the old and knew is what i've been saying Vado should have been doing years ago.

considering whats happened with Juelz/Jim and the falling out he had with a friend over Vado.
you won't see him do for someone what he did for Juelz or Vado again and has basically passed the torch to Dave East.

let's be honest..Cam doesn't care about music now..he pretty much said he only raps because he's been doing it for so long he can't stop and has a studio house and because it's not a main money source its just a promo tool to everything else he has going on.

Cam seems to enjoy being the go to NY guy for these fashion brands..perform for Supreme a few times, to Public School NYC etc.
get a bit of press of that and keep it moving.
 
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No. Cam doesn't care enough about music to help make Vado more relevant in the mainstream. Cam doesn't even care enough to make his OWN music relevant in the mainstream.

Vado - Vado is a little stronger in a technical sense of rapping, but still he doesn't have that thing that sets him apart from the pack. He also came out way too late Juelz made it because he seemed so lively, that dude really made cooking crack sound FUN. Think about that. See the first verse of "More than Music" for proof. And Juelz was more edgy because he was repping Bloods heavy, that's was a controversial thing at the time. Vado would have needed a focused Cam to work with him more in order to give his rapping that extra oomph. And he probably could have used Jimmy to give his image a little more edge. When Vado raps about street shyt, it doesn't sound believable. He seems like a cool dude who was around, but had a good head on his shoulders so he was never really in the mix. It's not a diss really, because that's who I was. But that's not marketable.
vado did say cam wasn't all in like he was before. it was right after dipset broke up and his heart wasn't in it. he didn't want to put his all into an artist to blow them up, only to see them cut and run like Jim and Juelz did

but then vado also sideways admitted he was lazy as shyt too
 

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Again. He has no EDGE.

He doesn't have a unique sound, he's kind of a throwback rapper. He doesn't have an interesting backstory. He doesn't have much in the way of street cred. No gang affiliations. No criminal record. He's not tatted up. He's not a functional drug addict.
 

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vado did say cam wasn't all in like he was before. it was right after dipset broke up and his heart wasn't in it. he didn't want to put his all into an artist to blow them up, only to see them cut and run like Jim and Juelz did

but then vado also sideways admitted he was lazy as shyt too

Cam put a lot of work into him though. But Cam wasn't all that hot anymore, and Vado didn't have anything that brought any EXTRA attention to Cam's movement. What did Vado bring that Cam didn't have? Did Vado have any attributes that set himself apart from Cam?
Dude had a run off the strength of being a chill likable dude that could rap. New York was dry at the time, and the industry people liked him and wanted to see him win. Yeah he was fly, but he had the preppy, wholesome thing going on. There's nothing intriguing, or fascinating about him.
 

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Again. He has no EDGE.

He doesn't have a unique sound, he's kind of a throwback rapper. He doesn't have an interesting backstory. He doesn't have much in the way of street cred. No gang affiliations. No criminal record. He's not tatted up. He's not a functional drug addict.

he been locked up...i think he got out just before linking up with Cam if i remember right.
sold to an undercover or some shyt but his lane was more of the check/scamming shyt.

but yeah, he never really flaunted it or anything..he was a just a likeable lowkey guy.

Cam put a lot of work into him though. But Cam wasn't all that hot anymore, and Vado didn't have anything that brought any EXTRA attention to Cam's movement. What did Vado bring that Cam didn't have? Did Vado have any attributes that set himself apart from Cam?
Dude had a run off the strength of being a chill likable dude that could rap. New York was dry at the time, and the industry people liked him and wanted to see him win. Yeah he was fly, but he had the preppy, wholesome thing going on. There's nothing intriguing, or fascinating about him.

shyt, people used to make Vado-less versions of the first 3 BOAB tapes.
a few of them being the more popular twitter people at the time.
 

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Cam put a lot of work into him though. But Cam wasn't all that hot anymore, and Vado didn't have anything that brought any EXTRA attention to Cam's movement. What did Vado bring that Cam didn't have? Did Vado have any attributes that set himself apart from Cam?
Dude had a run off the strength of being a chill likable dude that could rap. New York was dry at the time, and the industry people liked him and wanted to see him win. Yeah he was fly, but he had the preppy, wholesome thing going on. There's nothing intriguing, or fascinating about him.
i'm just saying what vado said

you could see he wasn't giving the full court press like dipset... cam hasn't been all in on the music tip since dipset really.. losing your best friends over some rap bullshyt gotta make you say "fukk this" especially if you rich


he did a hell of a lot.. but it clearly wasn't on the same level as back in the day
 

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he been locked up...i think he got out just before linking up with Cam if i remember right.
sold to an undercover or some shyt but his lane was more of the check/scamming shyt.

but yeah, he never really flaunted it or anything..he was a just a likeable lowkey guy.



shyt, people used to make Vado-less versions of the first 3 BOAB tapes.
a few of them being the more popular twitter people at the time.
A vado-less boab track is just a cam verse
 
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