Young King Condemns Murder Culture. 🙏🏿

MasterThought

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The problem with what you typed is there no pedestalizing going on. You are creating this 'worship culture' out of your own behavior ie projection. Only you worship it as an easy scapegoat.

It literally is another form of entertainment. Juicy J(showing my age here) talks about doing a home invasion and then we actually see one live and in color in that incredible Oscar worthy movie everyone is dying to see. Yet you guys sit in here and only complain about one of those forms. How do you think that makes you look?

If rap was gone tomorrow and all this stuff kept happening who would you guys blame then?

'Rappers cause crime with their lyrics!' never holds up to any scrutiny and for good reason.

Poverty and education. Period.
I think the highlighted is ultimately where the disconnect in these threads always come to play.

Some of us simply can't find ENTERTAINMENT in the killing and destruction of black people.

You can.

You're literally saying "I find it entertaining when black people make songs about killing other black people". That's what you're saying and there's no way around that. Own it.

The difference between people like me and you is that ....I love black people. I can't find entertainment in music that glorifies and promotes the shooting , robbing and killing of people that look like me.

ITS NOT ENTERTAINING!!!!!
 

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21 Savage couldn't even give what he thought was a COMPLIMENT to that community without having to apologize.



the same rapper responsible for the following lyrics about his own people.



:francis:

Damn I forgot all about this :dead:
 

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I think the highlighted is ultimately where the disconnect in these threads always come to play.

Some of us simply can't find ENTERTAINMENT in the killing and destruction of black people.

You can.

You're literally saying "I find it entertaining when black people make songs about killing other black people". That's what you're saying and there's no way around that. Own it.

The difference between people like me and you is that ....I love black people. I can't find entertainment in music that glorifies and promotes the shooting , robbing and killing of people that look like me.

ITS NOT ENTERTAINING!!!!!

What the fukk is entertaining about listening to black men talk about killing other black men all the time?

Bruh has been programmed and he doesn’t even realize it.
 

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If you took away the music you'd still have these issues. Dudes would go out, sell a ki for some Colombian drug lord who wouldn't or can't even set foot in the States and then go buy the latest Sugar Hill or Marvin Gaye record.

It's corny to lay this stuff at the foot of rappers when this is a poverty and education issue. Always has been.
Poverty and pain will make a young nikka insane
 

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What the fukk is entertaining about listening to black men talk about killing other black men all the time?

Bruh has been programmed and he doesn’t even realize it.
Bro, I get it that Cacs and white supremacist love it.

Hell, I even give younger black people who haven't gained a sense of pride yet a pass.

I'm not even trying to be a hypocrite, I grew up listening to it heavily.

My first "favorite" rapper in life was Jadakiss, who has arguably shot and sold the most dope in hip-hop history. And I was a HUGE Bone Thugs fan, and we all know what they mainly rapped about.

But when I got older and gained a sense of racial pride as a black person, that type of music became disgusting to me. I couldn't listen to it the same.

The dudes in here defending it, I assume have zero racial pride as a black person.

They're just simply humans who happen to have black skin. Nothing more.
 

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I think the highlighted is ultimately where the disconnect in these threads always come to play.

Some of us simply can't find ENTERTAINMENT in the killing and destruction of black people.

You can.

You're literally saying "I find it entertaining when black people make songs about killing other black people". That's what you're saying and there's no way around that. Own it.

The difference between people like me and you is that ....I love black people. I can't find entertainment in music that glorifies and promotes the shooting , robbing and killing of people that look like me.

ITS NOT ENTERTAINING!!!!!
All caps means we gotta agree to disagree. I hate black people because I think black people can differentiate between a song and everyday life? OK my guy. I don't go back and forth with a lot of folks on here for this reason. You are woke beyond any bit of reason. To the point you can't even view black people as human.

Worst part is you won't even get what I'm saying....
 

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All caps means we gotta agree to disagree. I hate black people because I think black people can differentiate between a song and everyday life? OK my guy. I don't go back and forth with a lot of folks on here for this reason. You are woke beyond any bit of reason. To the point you can't even view black people as human.

Worst part is you won't even get what I'm saying....
Lol such a weak response.

Okay so let’s suppose we’re all able to differentiate reality from murder music. Now what, you find the murder music entertaining? Just admit you do lol instead of acting like you got a short circuit in your brain making you unable to understand the debate.

It’s okay if you find it entertaining, I’m pretty sure everyone contributing to this topic did at one point

We all know white supremacy pushes this image of us, so what? Keep being dumb and going along?
 

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There are literally thousands of rappers rapping about any and everything
I know it makes y’all feel good to supposedly condemn murder music, doesn’t take no energy to do that,
But what about poverty and education this forever been an issue before murder rapping, I hope none of y’all dudes in here who makes fun of educating kids being a solution to black issues talking about how bad rap is
 

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Lol such a weak response.

Okay so let’s suppose we’re all able to differentiate reality from murder music. Now what, you find the murder music entertaining? Just admit you do lol instead of acting like you got a short circuit in your brain making you unable to understand the debate.

It’s okay if you find it entertaining, I’m pretty sure everyone contributing to this topic did at one point

We all know white supremacy pushes this image of us, so what? Keep being dumb and going along?
Heads are on that "I like listening to hoodrat ish" time but are ashamed to show their watches.

Just admit it.

I had like 300+ albums going back decades so I get it.

I used to go buckwild over crazy bars like "nikkas don't get the picture til the guns is drawn" too.

That's witty and clever and layered. It's also poison and I'm not listening no more.
 

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There are literally thousands of rappers rapping about any and everything
I know it makes y’all feel good to supposedly condemn murder music, doesn’t take no energy to do that,
But what about poverty and education this forever been an issue before murder rapping, I hope none of y’all dudes in here who makes fun of educating kids being a solution to black issues talking about how bad rap is
Who outside of an after-school special is making fun of educating kids?!

Like what kinda nonsensical strawman is this?
 

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21 Savage, a male that has innumerable lyrics glorifying anti-Black violence and degeneracy was made to apologize for a lyric that was ostensibly flattering to the Jewish community. He didn't get tough and ask why they couldn't see him as Denzel Washington playing a role, he didn't claim it was entertainment. He gave another people an apology that he would NEVER give his own people.

:francis:

A bit disingenuous don't you think, obviously black people care about anti-Blackness when it comes from non-black people, so I don't see the point you're making here.

Rap ain't influencing anyone into crime especially not at the rates you "rap bad" types are claiming, if it were so every suburb in America would be war zone.
 

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A bit disingenuous don't you think, obviously black people care about anti-Blackness when it comes from non-black people, so I don't see the point you're making here.

Rap ain't influencing anyone into crime especially not at the rates you "rap bad" types are claiming, if it were so every suburb in America would be war zone.

The point is that when Black people take 21 Savage to task he pays them nothing but lip service and excuse for his art. When members of the Jewish community pointed out that his compliment about Jewish people being good with money is an antisemitic trope, he didn't try to excuse it, he apologized.

I've made no claims tying rates of crime to music nor would I, I don't have any data to support that. Myself and others have mentioned that music is a negative influence, I have personally concentrated on the anti-Black nature of the music but here on the coli, it's hard for many people to even admit that a product that celebrates the deaths of Black people and is mostly consumed by white people is anti-Black.

:francis:
 

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All caps means we gotta agree to disagree. I hate black people because I think black people can differentiate between a song and everyday life? OK my guy. I don't go back and forth with a lot of folks on here for this reason. You are woke beyond any bit of reason. To the point you can't even view black people as human.

Worst part is you won't even get what I'm saying....
We'll definitely agree to disagree and I don't do the back & forth too much myself so I know where you coming from my brutha but I want to ask you 1 simple question, you don't even have to respond, just think about it.


If I made a diss track rapping about shooting and robbing somebody you love would you find it entertaining?

If I made a song over a scorching hot beat about pulling up to ya grandmother's and spraying her house up, would you find entertainment in that?

Again, you don't have to respond.

Just something to think about my G :salute:
 
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