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What are you insinuating here? That women arn't safe ANYWHERE... even in public?

SMH.. You even posted women wearing jogging clothes like this is the movie Death Wish or something.. where criminals sit back in the alleyways preying on innocent victims.

I'm not saying that never happens... But The FACTS are that most sexual assaults are done by people who KNOW the victim...

If you are not a woman or a girl then the idea of being sexually assaulted or raped is not usually of a concern to you. However, it is a concern to us. So yes, a strange man on the street yelling across a street or following you as you walk saying "hey let me fluck you" or "I wanna stick my d!ck between your t*ts" is very frightening.

Why is this so difficult for some of you to understand? Some men are even doing this to 12 year old girls. So just because YOU personally have no intentions to harm a woman/girl it does not mean that other men are like-minded.
 
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If you are not a woman or a girl then the idea of being sexually assaulted or raped is not usually of a concern to you. However, it is a concern to us. So yes, a strange man on the street yelling across a street or following you as you walk saying "hey let me fluck you" or "I wanna stick my d!ck between your t*ts" is very frightening.

Why is this so difficult for some of you to understand? Some men are even doing this to 12 year old girls. So just because YOU personally have no intentions to harm a woman/girl it does not mean that other men are like-minded.
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I'm not approaching at all, not worth the risk. When every turn you take there's a chance of screwing up you need to ride solo and do your own thing, follow the straight path.

In short-term it sucks but it's all for the bigger picture. Getting a record on top of being a black male is pretty much the end, I've heard of so many people screwing up. Getting in trouble over this is bullshyt, not worth it at all.

I understand why girls will find it annoying. But some will go overboard and abuse "street harassment laws". Better safe than sorry.
 
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How is a girl or woman who is minding her own business walking from Point A to Point B culpable for strange men yelling lewd comments and obscenities at her?

Are you ok with 50 year old men telling 15 year old girls where/how he wants to put his penis in her? Are you ok with a 19 year old yelling across the street telling your mother that he wants her to suck his c@ck? Are you ok with a 30 year old man grabbing your daughter's t!ts as she is simply walking down the street on her way to school?

You know, you guys are always asking us (black women) to back you up whenever injustices are being done to black men. We march. We protest. We pray. We vigil. We speak up on your behalf. Why can't we have the same support? We can never get your flucking support for a gatdamn thing! There shouldn't be any internal fighting about this issue. This is not about black feminism. We need your protection! Back us up!!! Protect black women! Damn! Why is this so hard?

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Lady, so you're going to give out those examples as if that's common occurrence amongst women walking the street everyday? I'm in my late 20s, and I can honestly say that the only times I have seen that kind of lewd, over the top thirsty behavior is on the club letout. Dudes haves been drinking for several hours and they're throwing caution to the wind trying to find a proper THOT to take home for the night.

And let me state that these dudes who are doing this, were usually dusty to begin with anyway. But even they weren't doing that before consuming much liquor and being on some "swing for the fences and laugh with my homies" tip. Not excusing that beahvior, but that is the prime time for it. Not on some walking down the street at lunch like you're insinuating.

Also, the women who tend to get that kind of attention, in the club letout example and beyond, tend to be very THOTish. They usually dress extra stank- breasts popping out of their shirt, spandex tight enough to see their future stretch marks and skirts barely covering their lower buttocks. And they tend to act the part as well.....playing into the attention whore tendencies that made them dress that way in the first place.

But of course, black feminists will gloss over the context of this and find a way to side with cacs to get a buttered water biscuit with a slice of fatback in order to make this an issue with black men as the face of evil. Just another example of disrespect.

And no, black men SHOULD NOT support this. You, and anyone else who would even utter that, has some nerve for expecting black male support in an endeavor that is targeting black men as the face of an offense that is being pushed to criminal status. You do know that support groups are pushing to make this "street harassment" a criminal law, don't you? You do know that once it becomes a law that it will be unfairly applied to black men, don't you?

Or do you just not care?

It takes a lot of nerve to expect black men to lend support to a cause that was created to criminalize and degrade them.


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http://www.stopstreetharassment.org/2014/07/to-clarify-what-ssh-is-all-about/

"TO CLARIFY WHAT SSH IS ABOUT

Ever since the #YouOkSis tweet chat on Thursday focused on Black women’s experiences with#streetharassment, a bunch of people on twitter have been attacking me, saying I started the hashtag (@FeministaJones did) and the whole movement against street harassment (yeah right, women have been organizing against this issue for 100+ years) in order to push my “agenda” to jail Black men. They have also targeted the Black woman who led the campaign and many other women who participated during the chat.

Of course I have dealt with criticism (constructive and vicious) but this is a new level of willful misinformation and hate. People have been calling me Jim Crow, saying I dupe Black women, saying I have an agenda to jail all Black men, and a few men have said sexually explicit things about me. Some men have also photoshopped my head onto images like one of me crushing a Black woman in a chair with her underneath me. Yes, this is all upsetting.

I have followed the guidance of the woman who started the hashtag and not engaged with them. I wasn’t going to mention it on this blog, even.

However, I just received an email from a presumably white man saying he whole-heartedly agrees with my campaign to jail Black men and called them racial slurs and says he wants to contribute money to my campaign. That is disgusting and unacceptable and I emailed him back to tell him so. I don’t know if it’s a joke or not, but it’s unacceptable regardless.

But it makes me realize I can’t not say something publicly about this. Misinformation spreads fast. So ENOUGH.

Let me be clear: I do not have an agenda to jail anyone.

What do I want? I want everyone to be safe and unharassed in public spaces. I want interactions in public spaces to be respectful and full of consent.

Street harasser does not mean Black men. Far from it.

Men across all backgrounds are harassers (and some are harassed, primarily in the LGBT community).

On the flip side, women across all backgrounds experience street harassment (and a small number are harassers).

I have collected thousands of stories, done two online surveys, commissioned a nationally representative survey, and conducted 10 focus groups. I’ve given 125 talks where I’ve heard stories. I’ve written two books, a master’s thesis and 50 articles. I don’t know everything about street harassment, but I know a hell of a lot.

And here’s the thing. Street harassment is a societal and global problem. Street harassment does not happen in a vacuum. Sexual harassment is a problem in our schools and workplaces. Rape is a problem on our campuses and in our military. Domestic violence and teen dating violence are problems as is incest. Street harassment is one component of the sexual harassment/sexual violence/domestic violence spectrum and grouping — and it happens in every country.

I’ve been speaking out for years specifically on street harassment because so few others have been.

And so this is my agenda: bring attention to this problem, provide a place for people to share stories, and help create a culture where everyone has the right to be safe and unharassed in public spaces. "
 

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Lady, so you're going to give out those examples as if that's common occurrence amongst women walking the street everyday? I'm in my late 20s, and I can honestly say that the only times I have seen that kind of lewd, over the top thirsty behavior is on the club letout. Dudes haves been drinking for several hours and they're throwing caution to the wind trying to find a proper THOT to take home for the night.

And let me state that these dudes who are doing this, were usually dusty to begin with anyway. But even they weren't doing that before consuming much liquor and being on some "swing for the fences and laugh with my homies" tip. Not excusing that beahvior, but that is the prime time for it. Not on some walking down the street at lunch like you're insinuating.

Also, the women who tend to get that kind of attention, in the club letout example and beyond, tend to be very THOTish. They usually dress extra stank- breasts popping out of their shirt, spandex tight enough to see their future stretch marks and skirts barely covering their lower buttocks. And they tend to act the part as well.....playing into the attention whore tendencies that made them dress that way in the first place.

But of course, black feminists will gloss over the context of this and find a way to side with cacs to get a buttered water biscuit with a slice of fatback in order to make this an issue with black men as the face of evil. Just another example of disrespect.

And no, black men SHOULD NOT support this. You, and anyone else who would even utter that, has some nerve for expecting black male support in an endeavor that is targeting black men as the face of an offense that is being pushed to criminal status. You do know that support groups are pushing to make this "street harassment" a criminal law, don't you? You do know that once it becomes a law that it will be unfairly applied to black men, don't you?

Or do you just not care?

It takes a lot of nerve to expect black men to lend support to a cause that was created to criminalize and degrade them.


Peace

You are NOT a woman so of course you don't experience this type of harassment. I'm not a black man so I don't know how it feels to be targeted for driving while black or stopped and frisked. I do not witness it happening in my daily life but I BELIEVE them when they say that it happens to them. And I support the efforts of black men seeking justice even though I have never experienced or witnessed most of the injustices that black men face.

Why is it so difficult for black men to support the protection of black women?
 

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You are NOT a woman so of course you don't experience this type of harassment. I'm not a black man so I don't know how it feels to be targeted for driving while black or stopped and frisked. I do not witness it happening in my daily life but I BELIEVE them when they say that it happens to them. And I support the efforts of black men seeking justice even though I have never experienced or witnessed most of the injustices that black men face.

Why is it so difficult for black men to support the protection of black women?

There's plenty of black women who could give stories of "driving while black", so that's not a gender issue. That's a race issue. Same with stop and frisk, which is moreso about race than about gender. Because if you think that stop and frisk won't apply to black women, then you haven't been paying attention to how society moves in their treatments of blacks. Which ties into this subject.

It always starts with black men as the target, and then it moves to black women also being the target.

And that's the crux of the issue at the end of the day, a select group of black women using gender issues as a way to take the focus away from black men and black women coming together to fight the over-arching issue.....racism/white supremacy.

Gender issues, as relevant as they seem to be, are secondary to the issues of the larger black community. If we get that in order, then most of the neuroses, including the schism between black men and black women, will resolve themselves.

But as long as black feminists are more concerned with their own self-interest than that of the greater community, then we will keep going in meaningless circles talking about inconsequentials like street harassment and black male privilege.

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There's plenty of black women who could give stories of "driving while black", so that's not a gender issue. That's a race issue. Same with stop and frisk, which is moreso about race than about gender. Because if you think that stop and frisk won't apply to black women, then you haven't been paying attention to how society moves in their treatments of blacks. Which ties into this subject.

It always starts with black men as the target, and then it moves to black women also being the target.

And that's the crux of the issue at the end of the day, a select group of black women using gender issues as a way to take the focus away from black men and black women coming together to fight the over-arching issue.....racism/white supremacy.

Gender issues, as relevant as they seem to be, are secondary to the issues of the larger black community. If we get that in order, then most of the neuroses, including the schism between black men and black women, will resolve themselves.

But as long as black feminists are more concerned with their own self-interest than that of the greater community, then we will keep going in meaningless circles talking about inconsequentials like street harassment and black male privilege.

Peace

Racism from whites does mean that we must absolve black men from their misogyny.

Again, why is it difficult for black men in the collective to protect black womanhood?
 
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