YouTubers Union Teams With Actual Labor Union To Pressure YouTube

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YouTubers Union Teams With Actual Labor Union To Pressure YouTube



The YouTubers Union, a community-based movement fighting for the rights of content creators and users, has joined forces with IG Metall, Germany's largest union and Europe's largest trade union. Together, they have launched a joint venture called FairTube and sent a letter of demands to YouTube accompanied by a video explaining their concerns, demands, and plan of action. The move is one of the most significant organized labor actions taken by creators on the platform, and puts some actual union power behind what has thus far been a nascent and disorganized movement.

In recent years, YouTube creators have consistently spoken out about changes to the massive platform that they say they are rarely consulted on that affect their ability to make money. For example, YouTube has repeatedly changed how it handles copyright takedown requests (allowing copyright holders to assert copyright on and monetize videos that they didn't upload, for example.) YouTube has also controversially "demonetized" or issued content warnings to some innocuous channels. One of the creators leading the unionization charge, Jörg Sprave, has had his popular slingshot videos removed by YouTube.

"We aren't demanding things that cut into profits or are unrealistic. We want fairness. We want transparency. We want to be treated like partners. And we want personal communication instead of anonymous communication," Sprave told Motherboard... . In a letter to YouTube signed by Sprave and Christiane Benner, the Vice President of IG Metall, FairTube asks that "all categories and decision criteria that affect Creators' earning capability, especially monetization and search and discovery,
shall be transparent."
 

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Just Tweeted about this.

Labor as a whole needs to adapt to the changing landscape, the economic shift from manufacturing and production into "content creation," "mass-advertising," and "contractor-lite" positions require new methods.
 

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It’s 2019, you want to post videos with your own rules? tons of platforms and software for you to build your own site and host video. Want the publicity and traffic that YouTube provides? Then you’re stuck with their rules/decisions :ld:
Content creator videos are the whole reason Youtube exists. While I see where you are coming from, I do not think their demands are anywhere near unreasonable.
 

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It’s 2019, you want to post videos with your own rules? tons of platforms and software for you to build your own site and host video. Want the publicity and traffic that YouTube provides? Then you’re stuck with their rules/decisions :ld:
Why does YouTube have so much traffic? Isn't because of the content creators?
 

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Why does YouTube have so much traffic? Isn't because of the content creators?
Yes and no, without them, YouTube would still be full of music videos, sports clips, tv shows/clips, company channels, etc. the content creators with serious followings can easily pay for their own infrastructure and host their own content.
 

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Yes and no, without them, YouTube would still be full of music videos, sports clips, tv shows/clips, company channels, etc. the content creators with serious followings can easily pay for their own infrastructure and host their own content.
Is that a good idea for YouTube, push independent voices off the platform and just have corporate music videos, sports clips and networks streaming clips?
 

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Is that a good idea for YouTube, push independent voices off the platform and just have corporate music videos, sports clips and networks streaming clips?
They’re not pushing people off the platform they have a business model and rules you either choose to agree to or place your content elsewhere :ld:

If the content creators that actually have decent followings leave, there’s still no one the size of YouTube. This ain’t Uber or postmates where if you lose your drivers your business fails, there are way too many people uploading content to care if 1000, or even 10000, people leave.


Edit: and these dudes are mad YouTube follows copyright laws and allows the original content creator (song, movie clip, etc) to make money from videos that use their creation without permission. Like stfu, that’s not a valid criticism. And if YouTube responds to this overly sensitive society by removing and demonetizing controversial channels, well blame the snowflake, easily triggered online community for making every single thing an issue.
 
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They’re not pushing people off the platform they have a business model and rules you either choose to agree to or place your content elsewhere :ld:

If the content creators that actually have decent followings leave, there’s still no one the size of YouTube. This ain’t Uber or postmates where if you lose your drivers your business fails, there are way too many people uploading content to care if 1000, or even 10000, people leave.


Edit: and these dudes are mad YouTube follows copyright laws and allows the original content creator (song, movie clip, etc) to make money from videos that use their creation without permission. Like stfu, that’s not a valid criticism. And if YouTube responds to this overly sensitive society by removing and demonetizing controversial channels, well blame the snowflake, easily triggered online community for making every single thing an issue.
PR wise how would it play that Google told unionized content providers to kick rocks?
 

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PR wise how would it play that Google told unionized content providers to kick rocks?
That’s exactly what’s not going on. How about you read their grievances and see if they make sense to you. They need to gtfoh complaining about profits being cut because YouTube pays copyright holders...

Sorry, content creators are not employees of YouTube, they’re not even contractors, they don’t get to have input on the business model.
 

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That’s exactly what’s not going on. How about you read their grievances and see if they make sense to you. They need to gtfoh complaining about profits being cut because YouTube pays copyright holders...

Sorry, content creators are not employees of YouTube, they’re not even contractors, they don’t get to have input on the business model.
I did read it, that's not their only complaint and it hasn't reached that stage yet.
So, you're saying if they tell them to kick rocks no biggie? Don't think that's wise IMO. Sit down with them at least.
 
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