Yvette Carnell is exposing exactly where her loyalty lies right now

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i was referring to you, but yeah hes pretty stupid himself.
You’re not exactly explaining why though. I’m open to criticism but at least elaborate.

It’s interesting to me cause he effectively inverted a lot of ADOS talking points. We need to do away with Pan Africanism and/or Pam Africanist leadership because it makes us susceptible to others cause… I don’t consider Umar a leader but he basically said the same thing about being Black American and LGBT.

It seems like it’s going only “different” now, because Yvette is gay. People are mentioning Baldwin & others but there’s been countless (genuine) Pan African centered leaders and there life’s work has pretty much been discarded with the rise of ADOS. I doubt it was his intention but the message I’m getting is ‘keep that same energy’
 

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My point is that it didn't matter that they were LGBTQ in that they stole the money. If they were straight the fact of the matter is they stole the money and didn't support local chapters who's mission was not to end the black nuclear family. Just for example I'm here in Michigan and here is the website for the statewide BLM:

https://www.blmmichigan.org/

They are not talking about ending the nuclear family. Local chapters have been conflated with the national org and figureheads mentioned.
Not talking about the money, that's a whole other problem. They were on some fake bullshyt off rip. Still waiting to hear what non-LGBT entities got any of the 9 figures they got off exploiting George Floyd's death.
 

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You’re not exactly explaining why though. I’m open to criticism but at least elaborate.

It’s interesting to me cause he effectively inverted a lot of ADOS talking points. We need to do away with Pan Africanism and/or Pam Africanist leadership because it makes us susceptible to others cause… I don’t consider Umar a leader but he basically said the same thing about being Black American and LGBT.

It seems like it’s going only “different” now, because Yvette is gay. People are mentioning Baldwin & others but there’s been countless (genuine) Pan African centered leaders and there life’s work has pretty much been discarded with the rise of ADOS. I doubt it was his intention but the message I’m getting is ‘keep that same energy’
Yvette is not making anyone susceptable and bending to LGBT ways and agenda. there is no proof of her even doing anything of the sort

just because she likes p*ssy and bytches doesnt equate her to pan africanist like Umar and others who try to belittle us and lil brother us to other people(africans)

her entire tweet is simply saying not to alienate gay ADOS people, and she has been vocal on not alienating any type of ADOS people no matter who they are. whether they are : Darkskin, lightskin, Biracial, biethical, etc

shes even spoke against people policing other ethnicities(African, caribbean) blackness.

her saying not to ostracize ADOS people who are gay =/= her making ADOS be used and manipulated for LGBT agendas'

im not some big fan of Yvette let alone some huge follower of her so im not saying this out of some obligation to her.
 

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Yvette is not making anyone susceptable and bending to LGBT ways and agenda. there is no proof of her even doing anything of the sort

just because she likes p*ssy and bytches doesnt equate her to pan africanist like Umar and others who try to belittle us and lil brother us to other people(africans)

her entire tweet is simply saying not to alienate gay ADOS people, and she has been vocal on not alienating any type of ADOS people no matter who they are. whether they are : Darkskin, lightskin, Biracial, biethical, etc

shes even spoke against people policing other ethnicities(African, caribbean) blackness.

her saying not to ostracize ADOS people who are gay =/= her making ADOS be used and manipulated for LGBT agendas'

im not some big fan of Yvette let alone some huge follower of her so im not saying this out of some obligation to her.
That’s kinda making my point though. Weren’t Pan Africanists alienated in the ADOS movement? On the assumption that their ideology would make them susceptible and bending to other agendas. A Pan Africanist is still a Black American no different than a gay person still being a Black American, so why the change in energy now?

And let’s not pretend a lot of the dirt thrown on (straight) Black men isn’t from the LGBT/Feminist axis.
 

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That’s kinda making my point though. Weren’t Pan Africanists alienated in the ADOS movement? On the assumption that their ideology would make them susceptible and bending to other agendas. A Pan Africanist is still a Black American no different than a gay person still being a Black American, so why the change in energy now?

And let’s not pretend a lot of the dirt thrown on (straight) Black men isn’t from the LGBT/Feminist axis.
pan africanist only recently have been alienated, your being disengenious acting like Pan Africanism has always been looked down upon when thats far from the case.

In which case, the only pan africans treated as such. Are pan africanist like Umar who belittle us, and degrade us for African and caribbean glorification.

This nikka Umar has had and continues to have a history of talking about "black americans cant go to Africa cause they will contaminate it with their nikkatry"

as if these african mothafukkas particularly Nigerians dont already fukk things up for themselves with what they do in their countries but in other ones to(Nigerians are literally banned from certain countries)
 

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pan africanist only recently have been alienated, your being disengenious acting like Pan Africanism has always been looked down upon when thats far from the case.

In which case, the only pan africans treated as such. Are pan africanist like Umar who belittle us, and degrade us for African and caribbean glorification.

This nikka Umar has had and continues to have a history of talking about "black americans cant go to Africa cause they will contaminate it with their nikkatry"

as if these african mothafukkas particularly Nigerians dont already fukk things up for themselves with what they do in their countries but in other ones to(Nigerians are literally banned from certain countries)
I said it started with the rise of ADOS, that’s not disingenuous. What’s more, Pan Africanism as an ideology was discarded wholesale. I see it all the time on Twitter from ADOS/FBA accounts. Yvette kicked it off with a video on how “Pan Africanism is dead” and is still liable to send jabs today. Her and others will post stories of some rift as further evidence that the ideology is dead. As if the people involved were even Pan Africanist in nature— that’s not about individuals like Umar.

That’s not even the issue though, I’m trying to understand why y’all are more turned off by Umar’s comments than when it’s basically the same mentality with a different ‘enemy’. He said LGBT shouldn’t be the face of leadership, imagine if he said ‘LGBT-ism is dead’
 

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That’s kinda making my point though. Weren’t Pan Africanists alienated in the ADOS movement? On the assumption that their ideology would make them susceptible and bending to other agendas. A Pan Africanist is still a Black American no different than a gay person still being a Black American, so why the change in energy now?

And let’s not pretend a lot of the dirt thrown on (straight) Black men isn’t from the LGBT/Feminist axis.

The ideology was/is the problem. The ideology of pan africans undermines reparations because it would mean one country paying reparations to all african decendants which is going to make a difficult task even harder. It also presumes a strong kinship between the diaspora and the continent that doesn't really exist. We know that proposed kinship doesn't even exist on the continent and even within the countries contained. Under these circumstances they don't mesh with reparations and a black agenda that has to focus on fixing ADOS and helping black Americans.
 
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That’s kinda making my point though. Weren’t Pan Africanists alienated in the ADOS movement? On the assumption that their ideology would make them susceptible and bending to other agendas. A Pan Africanist is still a Black American no different than a gay person still being a Black American, so why the change in energy now?

And let’s not pretend a lot of the dirt thrown on (straight) Black men isn’t from the LGBT/Feminist axis.
Part in bold is such a weird take and completely ignores like 100+ years of history of black men being terrorized by white people and specifically white Christians in the south. Online is not real like folks
 

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The ideology was/is the problem. The ideology of pan africans undermines reparations because it would mean one country paying reparations to all african decendants which is going to make a difficult task even harder. It also presumes a strong kinship between the diaspora and the continent that doesn't really exist. We know that proposed kinship doesn't even exist on the continent and even within the countries contained. Under these circumstances they don't mesh with reparations and a black agenda that has to focus on fixing ADOS and helping black Americans.
Let's assume you're right here for second. Umar is saying the same thing about LGBT. I mean the flag represents the diversity of gay people regardless of race or nationality, so I'm still trying to understand why LGBT leanings are okay but Pan Africanist leanings aren't. If someone like Yvette could compartmentalize their causes,
then why can't that same grace be applied to Pan Africanism?

You can actually see that when you look at the Pan Africanist organizations out there. Caricom's name gets thrown out a lot but they're Pan Africanists and still operate under specificity as it pertains to the Caribbean. On a broader scale, they work with Ncobra & others in the push for global reparations-- As in all of us receiving our just due from the appropriate offender. And if you actually look Ncobra's stance, they're not advocating for compensation to all African people-- yet they're Pan Africanists. A lot of their points fall directly under what ADOS considers "a Black Agenda", which Yvette has repeatedly stated applies to "all Black people"
 

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Let's assume you're right here for second. Umar is saying the same thing about LGBT. I mean the flag represents the diversity of gay people regardless of race or nationality, so I'm still trying to understand why LGBT leanings are okay but Pan Africanist leanings aren't. If someone like Yvette could compartmentalize their causes,
then why can't that same grace be applied to Pan Africanism?

You can actually see that when you look at the Pan Africanist organizations out there. Caricom's name gets thrown out a lot but they're Pan Africanists and still operate under specificity as it pertains to the Caribbean. On a broader scale, they work with Ncobra & others in the push for global reparations-- As in all of us receiving our just due from the appropriate offender. And if you actually look Ncobra's stance, they're not advocating for compensation to all African people-- yet they're Pan Africanists. A lot of their points fall directly under what ADOS considers "a Black Agenda", which Yvette has repeatedly stated applies to "all Black people"

The part you are leaving out is the context of Umar saying no LGBTQ can be included in leadership among the black community. Pan Africanists ideology excludes them from the establishment of reparations for ADOS not the movement in it's entirety.
 

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The part you are leaving out is the context of Umar saying no LGBTQ can be included in leadership among the black community. Pan Africanists ideology excludes them from the establishment of reparations for ADOS not the movement in it's entirety.
Y'all are against the ideology wholesale for reasons that aren't even based in reality :pachaha: We already covered the fact that there are Pan Africanist orgs that apply specificity for reparations.

Name one Pan Africanist you'd feel comfortable seeing in a leadership position.
 

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He has an actual studio.

Yvette, Tariq and Umar shoot videos in their house/parents house (allegedly).

And he has a whole box top network on all the major platforms and multiple shows. All black owned. More than even BNC. Takes a special amount of effort to shyt on dude. He’s not blowing his supporters money on bullshyt.
 
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