Zach Wilson has lost the Jets locker room, Update: Benched, It's Over

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They were trying to trade his ass all offseason and only brought him back cause there wasn't much interest and he restructured his contract to take a lot less money. He's a free agent they're not gonna pay him starting money
Also how the hell is he a pipe dream? He's a fukking mid ass QB. Mr. Irrelevant came in and the SF offense immediately looked better
Bruh have you seen how bad quarterbacking is around the league. Especially the way these old QB's have fallen off. Jimmy is legitimately a top 20 QB which is wild as fukk considering how average he is.

I'm basing it on the Mcdaniels/Jimmy connection more than anything else. This aint me hyping him up, cause I don't think he's shyt.

My guy have you watched the offense with Purdy? Dude is barely avg 200 passing yards a game. They just have tons of weapons and a crazy running attack. They are not better offensively with Purdy than Jimmy G. Remember, Jimmy only got a few games with Mccaffery before going down.
 

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Bro Tua was being purposely sabotaged in Miami under Flores and looked light years better than Wilson. Some dudes just don't have it :heh:
I know you want to cause a police career because that’s just what some of yall do in the way yall talk about football, but an inept offensive coordinator is the ruin of a young quarterback.

You cannot close or cap a player’s potential under that circumstance. I don’t care who the quarterback is. Especially when I hear this from people who don’t even know the fundamentals of the game like that
 
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I know you want to cause a police career because that’s just what some of yall do in the way yall talk about football, but an inept offensive coordinator is the ruin of a young quarterback.

You cannot close or cap a player’s potential under that circumstance. I don’t care who the quarterback is. Especially when I hear this from people who don’t even know the fundamentals of the game like that
I literately watched an inept offensive staff try and destroy tuas career for two years my guy and he was way better than Wilson. Dude just flat out sucks

I’m not even sure why someone would die on a hill defending him when White Mike was light years better in the same offense :mjlol:
 

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I literately watched an inept offensive staff try and destroy tuas career for two years my guy and he was way better than Wilson. Dude just flat out sucks

I’m not even sure why someone would die on a hill defending him when White Mike was light years better in the same offense :mjlol:
he wasnt. lmao. him facing the worst defense in the league and eating off YAC cause of studs like garrett wilson didnt even alter his statistics from being better than zachs. it quite literally made him 2 spots better in passing rating amongst all qb's who played this year...the other qb between the two was joe fukking flacco :mjlol:
the jets went their last 31 possessions without a touchdowns between THREE DIFFERENT QUARTERBACKS.
mlf is the common denominator.
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he wasnt. lmao. him facing the worst defense in the league and eating off YAC cause of studs like garrett wilson didnt even alter his statistics from being better than zachs. it quite literally made him 2 spots better in passing rating amongst all qb's who played this year...the other qb between the two was joe fukking flacco :mjlol:
the jets went their last 31 possessions without a touchdowns between THREE DIFFERENT QUARTERBACKS.
mlf is the common denominator.
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4 different QBs LMAO
Streveler played using that gimmicky ass running QB shyt and they still couldn't get a TD catching Jax off guard
 

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Zach Wilson apologist. :dead: And when he continues to fail, the blame will just be shifted. He's not it and never will be, but keep hope alive.
you nikkas different. no qb would thrive in this offense. not one.
only coordinator job this bum lafluer had before this was a FCS school on a team that went 1-11 and averaged 13ppg. he's a bum. jets hypothetically would have drafted trevor lawrence and they would have fukked him up too
 

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you nikkas different. no qb would thrive in this offense. not one.
only coordinator job this bum lafluer had before this was a FCS school on a team that went 1-11 and averaged 13ppg. he's a bum. jets hypothetically would have drafted trevor lawrence and they would have fukked him up too

Ok.
 

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San Fran aint letting Jimmy go until they know for sure that Lance is good. That was a bad injury for Lance. That's a pipe dream for the Jets to get him. If Jimmy does eventually let go he'll have suitors and Jets won't be top of the list imo. I think if Jimmy goes anywhere it's going to be Vegas FWIW. He'd already be familiar with the offense and have weapons everywhere.
Uhhh bro Jimmy is gone especially with the way Brocks been playing. He gone. We have two young QBs rn on rookie contracts on a team that is hella top havy contract-wise with the inevitable 35+m contract extension for Bosa.
 

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@NYC Rebel if you haven't already watch the JTOsullivan film breakdown on Wilson. Pretty much same thing Ive noted during college tape review. Big plays outside the pocket downfield, outright bad intermediate timing throws, missing by a lot on simple throws that shouldn't be missed by that much by an NFL qb. And in the nfl you can't always get your qb out of the pocket and have him gun it downfield. He gotta start getting his timing, mechanics and accuracy up on the bread and butter medium range game or he's in trouble
 

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@NYC Rebel if you haven't already watch the JTOsullivan film breakdown on Wilson. Pretty much same thing Ive noted during college tape review. Big plays outside the pocket downfield, outright bad intermediate timing throws, missing by a lot on simple throws that shouldn't be missed by that much by an NFL qb. And in the nfl you can't always get your qb out of the pocket and have him gun it downfield. He gotta start getting his timing, mechanics and accuracy up on the bread and butter medium range game or he's in trouble
Yeah two things can be true.

You can definitely say the Jets OC failed with him but he came in with flaws. I guess the way @NYC Rebel is looking at it is he has to be coached but sometimes the player just isn't good enough. Its the chicken and the egg.

The only way we'll know is if he goes somewhere else and performs. Even then we'll never truly know for sure why he bombed here. What if he was uncoachable with the Jets and decided to do the work and be coached somewhere else?

No circumstances are the same but the truly great QBs are able to still show you their talent even in chaotic situations.

He is not to me a franchise carrying QB you have to do too much for him to succeed

Everything has to be perfect for him and in the NFL it is NEVER PERFECT

He may be in the wrong system but that right there should tell you he's not a franchise QB.

That's why he's not a true franchise carrying QB
 
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Yeah two things can be true.

You can definitely say the Jets OC failed with him but he came in with flaws. I guess the way @NYC Rebel is looking at it is he has to be coached but sometimes the player just isn't good enough. Its the chicken and the egg.

The only way we'll know is if he goes somewhere else and performs. Even then we'll never truly know for sure why he bombed here. What if he was uncoachable with the Jets and decided to do the work and be coached somewhere else?

No circumstances are the same but the truly great QBs are able to still show you their talent even in chaotic situations.

He is not to me a franchise carrying QB you have to do too much for him to succeed

Everything has to be perfect for him and in the NFL it is NEVER PERFECT

He may be in the wrong system but that right there should tell you he's not a franchise QB.

That's why he's not a true franchise carrying QB
I dont agree with the whole "everything has to be perfect" thing you've said. His strengths often are on plays that do break down or where he has less structure. The problem is actually playing within the structure. I want to see a few drives where he can just dink and dunk all the way for a score, moving the chains and hitting the 5-15 yard range exclusively
 

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I dont agree with the whole "everything has to be perfect" thing you've said. His strengths often are on plays that do break down or where he has less structure. The problem is actually playing within the structure. I want to see a few drives where he can just dink and dunk all the way for a score, moving the chains and hitting the 5-15 yard range exclusively
He's not a franchise QB

Ok he thrives off script and doesn't really perform well in structured situations

He still isn't good and is undersized
 
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He's not a franchise QB

Ok he thrives off script and doesn't really perform well in structured situations

He still isn't good and is undersized
Breh you're now ironcially proving @NYC Rebel point with these first take type of binary takes...
that's probably what he means. Instead of nuance and football plays/tape, you're speaking in generalities.
 
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