Zion had Knee surgery out 6-8 weeks

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  1. Get These Nets

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    The recent leak and alleged comments from the Pelicans seems to be desined to give cover to their training / medical staff. So they don't look incomptent.

    If Zion doesn't come back at 270 or under, which would be 15 lbs under his listed weight, I would be shocked.
     
  2. Gil Scott-Heroin

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    Oh, no doubt - there's most definitely some shelling on behalf of the Pelicans to not come across as inept - it's why Griffin is vague over the whole thing.
    "Less weight, less torque is a theory," David Griffin said. "But you look at a player like Blake Griffin who generated enormous torque and had the issues he had his career. It took a while for him to find stasis in his body and we think that could be the same with Zion."

    And now Blake's out with a knee injury to start the season. Foreshadowing.
     
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    Smh
     
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    Came in to post this. Regardless you don’t need a doctor to tell you this nikka needed to lose some weight or take better care of his body coming into the league.
     
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    I mean, every knee injury is technically weight related. The point is, we dont know what caused this injury. We dont know if he would have sustained the same energy if he was 15lbs lighter, 30 lbs lighter, etc. There are too many factors to consider before you come to the conclusion a player NEEDS to lose weight. Suppose we can prove zion chances of getting injured would decrease by 2% if he loses 20lbs. Does that risk outweigh the benefit of having that mass? His mass and strength is probably his biggest advantage right now. That's the type of stuff you consider before ordering a player to lose weight. As Griffin pointed out, it could be a matter of strengthening his core opposed to shedding weight.
     
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    If Zion wants to be great he has to call out Pat Riley.
     
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    Pels gonna miss Zion

    they took Toronto to OT with Pascal and FVV scoring 34pts each. Zion wouldve been a difference maker for real
     
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    What we do know is that because of his gait, landing mechanics, BA, his body still growing and simultaneously trying to map out a course of its own functionality, and his reckless, physical, and high-paint activity style of play, that in itself, is a cocktail of doom. But when we add in the fact that he's playing at an incomparable weight, that players who're 4, 5, 6+ inches taller aren't even tipping the scales at, we've entered territory where it's become the inevitable (as I've said time and time again).

    The problem with you is, for whatever reason, you got it in your head a long time ago that he doesn't need to lose weight, and are now trying to fit the pieces around that to where you're keeping up that fictive, even it goes against all common sense, the nature of the game, opinions of physicians, and most importantly, reality.

    More weight = more stress on body.

    That's about as layman as we can get. And yet here we are with you playing dumb to ignore the culmination of stress he's put his body under. Especially where he exists in a game that has more running/covering of distance, more jumping and moving at angles, than it ever has before, that even the standard-NBA body type isn't made for.
    Are you really asking if the benefit of decreasing the risk of injury, where he'd increase his chances of having an actual career, outweighs the benefit of him playing a certain way, all at the cost of him lowering the chances of having an actual career?

    :usure:

    You can change the way you play; you can't change shyt if your career is over.

    This is partly the reason why I said the success he has at the NBA-level is down to him developing an outside game, because he's not going to be able to truly dominate with his style of play, especially in his current state of weight.

    There are far, far, far too many factors standing in his way: his body won't let him, the war of attrition that is the season won't let him, his SOP won't let him, length / size / experience at the NBA-level won't let him, coaching, game-planning, and adjustments won't let him.

    Losing weight and changing/adapting his style of play is the only way.
     
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    There's a hilarious irony to you acting like that's predicting the future, after all the other posts you were co-signing in that other thread.

    :lolbron:
     
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    Interesting....probably on minute restriction for tue while season
     
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    They kind of do need him to play this season more so to see how pieces fit around him and who eventually stays and goes.

    I’m sure they’d also like to see how well he and BI plays together before they have to throw the max or near max contract at him.
     
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    Zion back and Ingram goes to questionable with knee injury. Pelicans are truly cursed
     
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    :blessed:
     
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    if he shows out for rest of the season (20+ ppg and 8+ rbs or something), will he be ROY over Ja?
     

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