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Mase was a legit playmaker tho. Zion aint there yet as far as skill level.
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Zion got legit passing skill breh especially when he pushes off boards and off turnovers he's only gonna get better in that department, he says he watches Magic Johnson footage. Zion was a 5'9 PG not too long ago. He has high IQ but to catch Mase he's gonna have to continue to develop because Mase playmaking, ball handling at his size, and defense across multiple positions was really good. But those are projected strengths of his.
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Zion is much faster, quicker, elite first step. I mean, it's like comparing Boris Diaw athletically on the court to Lebron James. There is level to this. Zion is a rare athlete among rare athletes. Saying Mase with a 46 inch vert lacks the thought that this is a supremely better athlete in every form and shape. I meant, LeBron is like tom gugliotta with a 43 inch vert. See how stupid that sounds. Michael Jordan is Zack Lavine with higher BBIQ. We can get more stupid. Just say we never seen someone like Zion. Therefore any comparison is just shooting the shyt. Even shyt like Larry Johnson looks dumb when you compare the tapeI already said he's Mase with a 46 inch vert.
Zion's game is nothing like Shawn Kemp or Tyson Chandler. Mason was also quite fast at his size especially in the open floor. He's a powerful, lefty bully ball point forward with poor shooting range like Mason.
Ron Mercer is Magic Johnson without the court vision.
Priest Lauderdale is Shaq without the athletic ability.
I mean, can we get more outrageous
Priest Lauderdale is Shaq without the athletic ability.
I mean, can we get more outrageous
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Not at all you wilding especially with the Tom Gugliotta comment
And even tho Mason wasn't near Zion's level he was far from unathletic
Zion and Mason have similar builds in terms of how they carry weight and are the same height with similar wingspan, both left handed. They have similar strengths and weaknesses on the court which was outlined. Zion might be the most athletic player we've seen so what we really talking about?
Who is Zion's comparison then? That boy plays nothing like Shawn Kemp and these other PF's he gets compared to just because he's athletic. Zion's archetype is players like Mason, Julius Randle, Draymond Green, Larry Johnson.
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See you wilding now like Mason was a bum you dikk riding crazy now
This is stupid. Freak rare athletic ability is what makes guys unstoppable at the NBA level.
Zion is not similar if he's in the 99% percentile of players to have ever touch a Basketball if not the best athlete we have seen.
Mason was a 3rd rounder from a HBCU who spend 4-5 years out the NBA. As an athlete, he was just average. His skills for his size is what made him formidable. Zion on the other hand is an out of this world freak athlete who dominates on the court at every level he's played at. This couldn't be a more retarded comparison.
I mean, Ty Lue is Steve Nash without the court vision by your logic. What I am saying is you sound dense as hell. You don't know what you are talking about. Saying Mason with a 43 inch vert completely lacks the wherewithal of his overall athletic package. It makes no sense to compare him to Mason if that athletic ability gap is extremely massive. That's like comparing Jared Sulliger to Hakeem Olajawon. Sullinger has footwork similar to the Dream. But if he dont got no quickness or lift, how it gonna get It off in the NBA?
Call me immature but the second I read this post, it was a voice in my head saying "Whoa whoa pause man" and I can't stop laughing now 
Kid is ridiculous tho, how does he sustain such athleticism at that weight?
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There is no comparison for him. Charles Barkley may be the only one close. As Barkley too was a freak athlete but he wasn't as big, athletic, or as talented as Zion is as a prospect. He wasn't as disciplined either. Zion is tough to judge because he don't fit the modern NBA but he such a freak, you can figure it out. Like Barkley, he don't have a position. Maybe modern day smallball 5. But he's a perimeter player for the most part like Draymond.
I think a freak offensive minded Draymond Green is his upside. Meaning I can see him playing offense like Green plays it but with more slashing and shot attempts. Defense is up in the air but he has excellent rim protecting potential and is an elite rebounder. He shows shades of Ben Wallace without the effort or defensive discipline and he's probably 7-8 years away from reaching or coming close to his defensive ceiling.
He has the highest potential in this class but his development is critical and his personnel even moreso.
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Nah you acting like a cornball now and dikk riding. Maybe this is why nikkas hate bro because of stans like you
Mason was an All-Star, a 6MOY, an All-Defensive team member, and made an All-NBA team in his day. You talking about he was a 3rd rounder and all this bullshyt. He was not an "average" athlete. You don't see stocky muscular 6'7 260 pound nikkas running the break like he did or handling the ball that fluidly, or having the type of body control he had, and like I said Mase was fast in the open floor with the foot speed to defend guards.
We get it Zion is way more athletic, I conceded he was a lot more athletic off jump. You only talking about athleticism and not factoring skills. The ball handling, the passing, the potential for defensive versatility, the shooting limitations, the fact they are both left handed, the similar stocky frames. But aight you wanna act purposefully dense. You acting like Zion don't have a player archetype and a handul of players he shares vitals similarities with. The game ain't all about athleticism especially at the next level.
Yeah, Ty Lue is Steve Nash without the court vision they're so similar
You saying Zion has no comp, that's dikk riding
LeBron is waaayyyy more athletic than Magic Johnson, that didn't stop scouts, analysts, and fans from comparing them
He also spend time in numerous countries before balling in the CBA/USBL where he caught the eye of Pat Riley and joined the Knicks. He was damn near 26 when he got his big break. Zion will likely be an NBA All Star at 21 and put for MVP races at 23. Not the same prospect.Nah you acting like a cornball now and dikk riding. Maybe this is why nikkas hate bro because of stans like you
Mason was an All-Star, a 6MOY, an All-Defensive team member, and made an All-NBA team in his day. You talking about he was a 3rd rounder and all this bullshyt. He was not an "average" athlete. You don't see stocky muscular 6'7 260 pound nikkas running the break like he did or handling the ball that fluidly, or having the type of body control he had, and like I said Mase was fast in the open floor.
We get it Zion is way more athletic, I conceded he was a lot more athletic off jump. You only talking about athleticism and not factoring skills. The ball handling, the passing, the potential for defensive versatility, the shooting limitations, the fact they are both left handed, the similar stocky frames. But aight you wanna act purposefully dense. You acting like Zion don't have a player archetype and a handul of players he shares vitals similarities with. The game ain't all about athleticism especially at the next level.
Yeah, Ty Lue is Steve Nash without the court vision they're so similar
You saying Zion has no comp, that's dikk riding
LeBron is waaayyyy more athletic than Magic Johnson, that didn't stop scouts, analysts, and fans from comparing them
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Don't matter when Mason got in the league he was a good player. I was specifically comparing him to prime Mason, and was talking pure skills and measurables. Zion is a good player, he has a good upside, should surpass Mason. A much more athletic Mason is a great player easily a multiple time All-Star not sure why you take it as a slight.
He's more of a super glue guy than an MVP level player to me. That whole jumpshot needs to be reconstructed, he doesn't have ideal length, he needs to lose weight to improve his lateral quickness and foot speed to switch onto guards. His roles will be that of a finisher, secondary playmaker, high level rebounder, and defender who can switch everything.
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“Zion can’t dribble or drive”
“He can’t handle or pass”
“All he does is dunk”
Clowns haven’t even seen this kid play but already doing the most talking. Most of the shyt you seeing now, Zion been doing since like 16.
And now he’s bigger, taller, and faster than he is in these gifs.
And he can shoot enough to get respect on the outside (see the first gif).
I agree, 285 might be too much but this dude is a once in a lifetime athlete/talent. 270+ rolling down hill is tough to stop. He’s already putting some of his own teammates on posters now just in practice
“He can’t handle or pass”
“All he does is dunk”
Clowns haven’t even seen this kid play but already doing the most talking. Most of the shyt you seeing now, Zion been doing since like 16.
And now he’s bigger, taller, and faster than he is in these gifs.
And he can shoot enough to get respect on the outside (see the first gif).
I agree, 285 might be too much but this dude is a once in a lifetime athlete/talent. 270+ rolling down hill is tough to stop. He’s already putting some of his own teammates on posters now just in practice