Ben Simmons is gonna enhance all of our player's skill sets. Last year Embiid and Saric (although they can do it) had to work so hard to create their own shots because they lacked someone who could deliver the ball to them in spots to score. With Ben shyt is gonna be so much easier with a primary ball handler who has transcendent passing and court vision. As a matter of fact I could see a case where Ben doesn't win ROY and that would be if he makes our other guys look so good that he becomes an afterthought in a sense.
He'll be battling for touches in the sense that the other players on the team will have the ball in their hands to develop and fine tune their respective games, and the fact they're a young team who're still in the process of finding their identity - Brown will make sure each and every player gets their fair share of touches in different types of situations. Saric, Biid and Fultz aren't role players, they're all going to have important roles or at least they'll have the opportunity to see if they're deserving of having an important role.
How many 76ers games did you watch last season?
How they about to make the playoffs especially with the emergence of the Twolves now.
He'll be battling for touches in the sense that the other players on the team will have the ball in their hands to develop and fine tune their respective games, and the fact they're a young team who're still in the process of finding their identity - Brown will make sure each and every player gets their fair share of touches in different types of situations. Saric, Biid and Fultz aren't role players, they're all going to have important roles or at least they'll have the opportunity to see if they're deserving of having an important role.
It's not going to be a case where they shape the entire offense around Simmons, and everyone else is secondary, it'll be a long process of working out an infinite amount of things.
At this stage we don't know what role each player will play, what their workloads will be, we don't know which player will sink/swim, we don't know if one of Fultz, Saric or Biid takes a gigantic leap etc. There are many unknowns about this squad, and until we actually see the product on the floor for a generous period of time there's no sense in acting like Simmons is going to run away with the ROY.
I don't think you quite understand how this works.
What the hell do you mean the game isn't a place to "develop" players? Players don't develop in "practice, workouts, training" - that's mostly prep work for the actual game. Players only develop when they get minutes, where they can get accustomed to the pace, competition, physicality, trends/patterns, environment etc of actual NBA play.
I can't believe one would even think to suggest that the "game" isn't a place to develop players. How the fukk do you think players get better in the first place?
We talking about practice for how players develop; practice, not the actual game, but practice?
How many 76ers games did you watch last season?
You seem to be running thin on your argument that you've dived into stating the obvious. Of course, an offense always flows through one primary player, no matter the system. The point I'm trying to make here is the fact they have a system that's reliant upon ball/player movement means there's less chance Simmons is going to be the only shining light, because other players in the starting lineup are going to have near-equal opportunities to make a name for themselves due to how often they're going to be touching the ball.
You're turning this into the semantics/etymological sport-meaning of "development", while taking what I said out of context. Practice, training, workouts are prep for the actual game, the development is actually in the game itself. Developing meaning to get accustomed to the pace, competition, physicality, trends/patterns, environment etc of actual NBA play. That was the proper context in which my original statement was made.
You obviously have a reading comprehension problem because I already stated to you in a previous post - Players don't develop in "practice, workouts, training" - that's mostly prep work for the actual game. What the hell do you think that means? Why are you insinuating that I'm trying to say players don't get better from practicing/training?
False equivalence.
Except I'm not incorrect.
So basically you don't know what the fukk you're talking about.
Except you haven't because the offense/roles/players from the Summer League weren't the same as they were in the actual NBA games.
More straw man arguments.
You're turning this into the semantics/etymological sport-meaning of "development", while taking what I said out of context. Practice, training, workouts are prep for the actual game, the development is actually in the game itself. Developing meaning to get accustomed to the pace, competition, physicality, trends/patterns, environment etc of actual NBA play. That was the proper context in which my original statement was made.
I'm talking about the development they need in games.
You obviously have a reading comprehension problem because I already stated to you in a previous post - Players don't develop in "practice, workouts, training" - that's mostly prep work for the actual game. What the hell do you think that means? Why are you insinuating that I'm trying to say players don't get better from practicing/training?
Again, in this context when I'm referring to development I'm talking about the reps they need in games to develop. Learn to read.
False equivalence.
I never argued a player doesn't need to work on their games/skillset outside of the actual game to get better. I'm talking about the development they need in the actual game.
Except I'm not incorrect.
Again, you're taking what I'm saying out of context. When I say battling for touches I mean the touches are going to be distributed throughout the main players, which again you must apply the proper context of why I said it in the first place - which was based around folk stating Simmons is the clear-cut frontrunner for ROY. I'm simply giving a reason why that won't be, because of the fact there are other players on his team which will be getting a high amount of touches.
I don't mean "battling for touches" in the sense he's going to be fighting over the ball, or being phased out of the offense. He's the PG after all, he's going to be touching the ball more than anyone else. Don't take that phrase literally, it's just to illustrate other players on his team will need a decent amount of touches too, in order to develop.
It's not about adjustments during games, it's about their actual gameplan. They're not going to be running a Westbrook-MA type offense. Why do you keep bringing up this point about the offense running through Simmons when I've already stated he'll be the primary ball handler?
There were multiple posts that insinuated/stated he was the clear cut frontrunner prior to me making my original post, which is why I put forth an argument that it's not as simple as they're making it out to be.
So basically you don't know what the fukk you're talking about.
Except you haven't because the offense/roles/players from the Summer League weren't the same as they were in the actual NBA games.
More straw man arguments.
I never argued against this (never mind the fact this shyt is obvious), I've already mentioned he has "a realistic shot", I'm just proposing the question why folk are so convinced he's going to win it when they haven't weighed up the possibility/unknown of his role and the role of other players on his team. And what role every other lottery pick will have on their respective teams. It's fine to make a prediction on who will win, but he's most definitely not a "lock" to win it like it's been said in this thread.
You took what I said out of context and turned it into this meaningless argument about nothing.
I negged you for wasting my time, because you don't necessarily disagree with what I said, you just took what I said out of context. This entire argument was just a waste of time, that could've be avoided if you read properly and/or cleared up any misunderstanding over my original post by just asking me.
