3 Black Adoptees on Racial Identity After Growing Up in White Homes

[keepemup]

The bigger problem is that black people don't want to adopt black children.

Wait, WTF does this mean? What ethnicity do most black people adopt?

 

[Zero]

The bigger problem is Black people not raising their own children. ~72% of Black children are raised in single parent homes.

Can you confirm this?

 

[No1]

I agree, but the 72% OOW is significantly high, and there is still a sizable amount that are born to Black women without the father there, other than being back and forth in child support courts and on varied weekends and seasons of the year, that to men is still not a family unit, and I don't consider that as being there for the child "totally" so I don't want to trivialize that. But you're right on the other parts.

Don't get me wrong, I don't consider it a great thing. But at this point 40% of children in America are born out of wedlock. It is something 30% for white women which is when they claimed decades ago that it was a black epidemic and pathology, etc. My point was that this may very well be the new normal, and looking at parental involvement is more important than if the two people are married at that time. My girlfriend could have a kid and she would count as a single mother. Again, we need to look at involvement as the proper metric, and obviously there are a lot of problems there. But not to the extent that 72% would lead you to believe. I'm just trying to steer that convo into the correct direction.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

The bigger question should be why so many black children are up for adoption in the first place? Black people are 13% of the population, I have no what percentage of the orphaned population black people make up but saying black people should carry the burden of adopting black children in mass--as opposed to working against black kids becoming orphaned in the first place, is insane.

The lack of black people adopting black children isn't the real issue. It's the apathy of black people have to helping one another. The bolded is 100% true, but no one wants to work against what causes black kids to become orphans. Instead we have this idea of fukk them I got my own problems to deal with. The top reasons kids end up in foster care are abuse, incarceration, and neglect. But how many black people are joining organizations to deal with sexual and physical abuse in the black community? How many of us are part of mentoring programs to help keep black men and women out of prison? Very few of us if we're gonna keep it 100.

If I raise my three kids (I have none) with my wife, nobody is about to tell me that I'm a terrible human being because I did not go adopt a fourth kid. The median income of a black household in the U.S. is like 30k why the fukk would black people be adopting in large numbers? Economically speaking, white people are more suited for adoption just based on resources. As for all that other shyt you're spouting about what we don't do--provide facts or there's no validity. You guys consistently make the mistake of trying to uplift by berating people with information that is often outright false or misrepresented.

I'm not trying to uplift shyt. Y'all nikkas know in your own hearts whether or not you're doing shyt to help other black people. You know how much time and money you've given in the last year to causes that help black people.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

By the way, my ex was adopted @BarNone, so it'd be foolish for me to state that all black people do not wish to adopt children. But these NUMBERS show that black children aren't exactly speeding out of the system.

While the number of African-American children in the foster care system has decreased between 2001 and 2011, the rate at which they exit the system has not. Studies show that African-American children who come into contact with the child welfare system are disproportionately represented in foster care, and are less likely than children of other racial and ethnic groups to move to permanent placement. Furthermore African-American children account for 15% of the U.S. child population but, as of September 2011, were 27% of the 400,540 children in foster care and have lower rates of adoption than those of other races and ethnicities.

http://www.nbcsl.org/public-policy/...ren-addressing-adoption-rates-for-blacks.html

Why is this?

 

[Medicate]

Don't get me wrong, I don't consider it a great thing. But at this point 40% of children in America are born out of wedlock. It is something 30% for white women which is when they claimed decades ago that it was a black epidemic and pathology, etc. My point was that this may very well be the new normal, and looking at parental involvement is more important than if the two people are married at that time. My girlfriend could have a kid and she would count as a single mother. Again, we need to look at involvement as the proper metric, and obviously there are a lot of problems there. But not to the extent that 72% would lead you to believe. I'm just trying to steer that convo into the correct direction.

I see where you coming from....

 

[KOOL-AID]

You're the cornerstone of the black family breh :totheeastside:

man I'm gonna miss yall nikkas

 

[iBrowse]

man I'm gonna miss yall nikkas

The fukk you going to?

 

[Matt504]

Can you confirm this?

http://datacenter.kidscount.org/dat...6,868,867,133,38/10,168,9,12,1,13,185/432,431

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Ehh..don't let these random white folks who adopt non white kids fool you. The reason most people adopt, regardless of race is usually because they physically can't have kids. So for the most part no one gives a fukk about adopting kids Unless they need one, helping s child in need is rarely the sole reason for adopting. Black people are not unique in not giving a fukk about adopted children. Unfortunately I don't see black folks all of a sudden going against the grain and somehow becoming morally superior to the rest of the general pop. Most black folks will conduct themselves like the rest of the general population and make Their own children. Much more efficient process. Also, black folks adopting more black kids is just the band aid on greater issue.

Whatever.

Again, I don't concern myself with what cacs do. I don't factor them into shyt. The question once again becomes why are black people not only have the lowest adoption levels, but why is it so difficult to get black people to get involved in so many initiatives that benefit us? Here's a test if you don't believe. Find a mentoring program specifically for black boys, contact the person who runs it and ask them if there's a waiting list.

Then find any other program specifically to help black people, contact the people who run it, and ask them if it's difficult getting black people to volunteer or donate.

Black adoption is just one facet. Black people really don't give a fukk about each other. We all know it breh, but we just keep pretending like the shyt don't exist

 

[Zero]

http://datacenter.kidscount.org/dat...6,868,867,133,38/10,168,9,12,1,13,185/432,431

 

[No1]

By the way, my ex was adopted @BarNone, so it'd be foolish for me to state that all black people do not wish to adopt children. But these NUMBERS show that black children aren't exactly speeding out of the system.



http://www.nbcsl.org/public-policy/...ren-addressing-adoption-rates-for-blacks.html

Why is this?

Because white parents never wanted to adopt black kids before and white people account for 73% of those adopting.

Here are the actual facts:

The race and ethnic distribution of adopted children is different from that of adoptive parents. Whereas a majority of adopted children are non-white, the majority of these children’s parents are white (73 percent). Sixty-three percent of children adopted from foster care have white parents, as do 71 percent of children adopted within the United States, and 92 percent of children adopted internationally.ii A substantial portion of adopted children have black parents, including 27 percent of children adopted from foster care and 19 percent of those adopted privately within the United States; see Figure 6.

Looks like black people are over-represented in adoptions relative to their population. Like I was getting at, you're a smart cat, but we cannot just act on our suppositions. @bdizzle

 

[Matt504]

Again, I don't concern myself with what cacs do. I don't factor them into shyt. The question once again becomes why are black people not only have the lowest adoption levels, but why is it so difficult to get black people to get involved in so many initiatives that benefit us? Here's a test if you don't believe. Find a mentoring program specifically for black boys, contact the person who runs it and ask them if there's a waiting list.

Then find any other program specifically to help black people, contact the people who run it, and ask them if it's difficult getting black people to volunteer or donate.

Black adoption is just one facet. Black people really don't give a fukk about each other. We all know it breh, but we just keep pretending like the shyt don't exist

Reality: African American families are willing and able to adopt

At the time Homes for Black Children was formed, the prevailing belief in child welfare was that African American families were poor and already had as many or more children than they could afford. For some, that belief remains. We, however, knew that there were black families who were financially, emotionally, and spiritually capable of adopting. We knew about families who postponed having children to build a solid economic foundation for their lives, and then found they could not give birth.

In our first six months of operation, more than 700 families from across the U.S. called or wrote to us about adopting. In our first year, with a staff of six, Homes for Black Children placed 135 African American children in adoptive homes—more than the other 13 metro Detroit child welfare agencies combined.

These days Homes for Black Children, now very capably led by Jacquelynn Moffett, focuses much of its work on family preservation and prevention efforts. Even so, the adoption program—which Linda Lipscomb (formerly Whitfield) heads—still averages 40 completed adoptions per year, including placements for older children, sibling groups, and children in residential settings. In addition, about 20 approved African American families are continually waiting, desperately hoping to adopt young black children.

Other African American adoption agencies have similar pools of waiting families, so I am deeply saddened when I hear of agencies sending young black children to other countries for adoption because they believe there are no African American families who would adopt them. I am even more saddened to know that someday these children may grow up to believe that no one who looked like them wanted to take care of them.

The perpetuation of this myth, I believe, is the result of looking at adoption as a service to families (who must then bear the brunt of the cost) rather than a service to children. Put another way, it is all about the money.

Almost all forward thinking agencies strongly believe that adoption is a service to the child and, as such, the cost must be a public responsibility. Adoptive families are resources for children, and when we move away from this understanding, children start to become commodities. Given African Americans’ history of having been bought and sold during slavery, the thought of an agency selling (or a family buying) a black child today is understandably abhorrent. To protect our children, adoption must be viewed, and financed, as a service to the child.

http://www.nacac.org/adoptalk/blackadoptionmyths.html

 

[Dwolf]

Odd

 

[↓R↑LYB]

http://www.nacac.org/adoptalk/blackadoptionmyths.html

Like I said, adoption is just one facet. The bigger issue is black apathy. I know there's families out there willing to adopt. My best friend was adopted by a black family. He said they had mad kids they were foster parents to.

But the reality is we have an attitude of "fukk everyone else, Im only worrying about me." You see and hear it just like I do, especially when you try to spread the word and get people to join. Dudes will literally hit you with the "not my problem "