The fukk you going to?
that's not important right now breh, when the time comes you guys will know. For now lets just enjoy fukkery and have fun.
3 Black Adoptees on Racial Identity After Growing Up in White Homes
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that's not important right now breh, when the time comes you guys will know. For now lets just enjoy fukkery and have fun.
Because white parents never wanted to adopt black kids before and white people account for 73% of those adopting.
Here are the actual facts:
Looks like black people are over-represented in adoptions relative to their population.Like I was getting at, you're a smart cat, but we cannot just act on our suppositions. @bdizzle
So black children are over represented in adoptions relative to population and white people are doing the majority of the adopting so how is one wrong for saying black people should adopt more black children instead of complain about white people raising racially ambiguous adopted black children, the original point I made in the thread. Your original point of contention was with me saying black people as a whole have an aversion to adopting children.
Like I said, adoption is just one facet. The bigger issue is black apathy. I know there's families out there willing to adopt. My best friend was adopted by a black family. He said they had mad kids they were foster parents to.
But the reality is we have an attitude of "fukk everyone else, Im only worrying about me." You see and hear it just like I do, especially when you try to spread the word and get people to join. Dudes will literally hit you with the "not my problem"
I see Black people right here on the Coli saying this all the time, I agree with you, but it's important to note that we aren't inherently like that as a people, this is a relatively new phenomena amongst us, and it's very eurocentric.
Why do people keep using that strawman?
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Because white parents never wanted to adopt black kids before and white people account for 73% of those adopting.
Here are the actual facts:
Looks like black people are over-represented in adoptions relative to their population.
Uhh, I'm not sure how that graph disagrees with what I said
. The issue isn't just adoption, it's about our lack of concern for ourselves across the board. Like you said in an earlier post, instead of talking about just adopting kids, why aren't we fixing the problems that cause these kids to end up in adoption. But the reality is black people unfortunately aren't trying to address those problems.
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Oh, I know that. It's documented that when the first group of slaves were freed, there first responsibility were to go back and free some more. But today, that sense of helping each other out is completely gone.
I can't really blame cacs for that one breh. We're gonna have to own up to our own shyt and figure out why we act the way we act.
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Very interesting and I always suspected that unless a white parent went out of their way to surround the kid with black influences this would be the outcome.
Let's be reality, brehette; black ppl barely understand what our ID is---largely because we let society tell us what "black" (see ghetto) is.
The only problem I see (read the cliffs not the whole article) is trying to raise them "color blind." That's just not reality.
Also, there is no white privilege. But, white ppl do get the sense (see illusion) that they control everything--including racism.
And they're gonna be more confused goin to Africa, because African and African-Amer/Black isn't the same thing.
what are your conclusions that account for this dramatic change in our intraracial relationships?
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what are your conclusions that account for this dramatic change in our intraracial relationships?
I honestly have no clue breh, but when in doubt, blame white people
I honestly have no clue breh, but when in doubt, blame white people
that's actually the best course of action when Black people are confused in my opinion, start with white supremacy and work backwards.
you lost me riiiight there. There is no white privilenge?Are you also saying there is no benefit to them being around other blacks or in black education programs at all? Yes we do have lots of issues within our own community, that does not mean that exposing a child to their comunity has no benefit or seeing people that look like them no benefit.
I do believe raising them as color blind is an issue but them having no idea of self is the product of that. I don't get what you are saying. So raise them to see color but keep them from other blacks because opf our in house issues?
There's no white privilege now?
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Alright I might come to regret this later but my sister and I were adopted by two white parents. My birth parents were young (and Catholic thank God) and got to choose the family I'd end up with. Everybody met and liked each other so they went through with it and my sister came some months later.
I'd consider myself pro black. Treasurer for a local black men's organization, spent a couple hundred hours tutoring black 3rd - 6th graders last year, going to fix up an old lady's fence later today, black history major for a while in college, my focuses in grad school will always be on black issues, spent a month in Nigeria and I'll be going back.
I may have had a different experience than the folks in the article but things were alright growing up. Parents handled the race issues fairly if you're asking me as an adult. Got to know other adopted kids and most turned out pretty measured.As far as that apathy that @bdizzle is talking about, yeah I've seen that working with my organization. I see a lot of older dudes lining up to help out, but I'm the youngest guy by 30 years. At least in my experience, it's tough to get young men (under 40) to show up. That's all I can say about DOING something, shyt doesn't have to be fancy, just do it. We had a teachers lunch room and a white board and in three months I got kids who had suspended for punching teachers to climb over each other for algebra and calculus problems. I definitely have disagreements about how some of us approach these problems but if you're out there putting in the leg work, I can't do anything but
. There's a lot of work to be done and sometimes we're too focused on the details or play Goldilocks on if they're too light or too dark or what the hell ever else. If it's good for black folks, I'll be supporting it.
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Are you also saying there is no benefit to them being around other blacks or in black education programs at all? Yes we do have lots of issues within our own community, that does not mean that exposing a child to their comunity has no benefit or seeing people that look like them no benefit.
I do believe raising them as color blind is an issue but them having no idea of self is the product of that. I don't get what you are saying. So raise them to see color but keep them from other blacks because opf our in house issues?
No, I think the idea of "blackness" is overrated when you count the fact that we aren't that united.
Yes, they could benefit (like all people) being around black people to understand we're human like anyone else.
But, the idea that it will give them cultural enlightenment...you'd have to explain that further.
I love my blackness. But, I can admit, it's based on the way we've overcome more than our actual history aside from our reactions to slavery and racism.
Really, what is our culture? We're pretty American-ized.
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I actually only saw what you bolded and didn't read your question...but, the bottom is my view on that....I'll try to give you the short version:
As a black man, I know white ppl are not inherently better than I; they've just been given better positions, in this country, than ppl who look like me.
Now "EASY-E, that's white privilege!"
No, it's not. Because, they people at the tip-top want white people to think they're better than us and want us to think white people have it better to keep us at odds while they steal from us both.
The same reason white folks think it's women and immigrants stealing from them (when it's really the bankers) is the same reason we believe in white privileged/supremacy.
Mind you; the 1% aren't the 1% because they're white...it's because this country is ran by a legacy created by families.
I don't believe white people do better than us...it's just a bunch more of them.
There's about 40 million of us---man, woman, child. 40 MILLION WHITE PEOPLE are living below the poverty line. The "European Standard of Beauty" doesn't just stiff arm dark skin women. You think all white women are slim, long legged, big breast blondes?
I don't understand why--but, I really do--we feel the need to demonize "white" people, when our real enemies have faces and connected last names.
Our enemy is greed, not white supremacy. Yea, that white guy with the record may get that job over me because of his whiteness--yes. But, he's still gettin' robbed by the same system that's robbing me.
I'm from us becoming more insular and stop complaining about white people.
A lot of our problems wouldn't be a big deal (that's a strong word) if we had each other, more. White man doesn't want to hire a sista because she doesn't wear a "hair hat," then she should be able to get a job from a black man. But, it ain't like that...enough of the time.
Yes, RACISM is still prevalent and we are targets. But, we're fooling ourselves if we think it's for the benefit of ALL white people.
George Bush don't care about black people...or anyone who ain't a Bush or is not apart of his network.