I think he's rigiht there - he's a unique player but you're right. He will need at least 25+ and 12 and a winning team to be in a serious running IMO - with Lebron, Durant, etc etc still feasting
Anthony Davis vs Andre Drummond....which big would you rather build around?
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I think he's rigiht there - he's a unique player but you're right. He will need at least 25+ and 12 and a winning team to be in a serious running IMO - with Lebron, Durant, etc etc still feasting
VegetasHairline
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As far as the hands discussion, when it comes to bigs in the league, I'll put Demarcus Cousins' hands up there with anyone in the NBA. Cousins catches everything.
Gil Scott-Heroin
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Games like this prove that Drummond is no better than DeAndre, especially not '20 PPG' better.
djthegreat88
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are you forgetting the 5 year age difference and compare playing with paul and collison to playing with jennings and bynum.Gil Scott-Heroin
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Did you not read what he posted? He said Drummond would be a 20 PPG scorer with CP3 right now. Like he's THAT much better than him. I swear yall Pistons fans.....
djthegreat88
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Drummond is avg 12 a game now with no plays run for him and j smith and jennings chucking. CP3 and actually have shooters outside could get him a lot of easy looks. It is not that far out there
Did you not read what he posted? He said Drummond would be a 20 PPG scorer with CP3 right now. Like he's THAT much better than him. I swear yall Pistons fans.....
Gil Scott-Heroin
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Davis: 20.1 PPG, 53% shooting, 10.4 rebounds, 2.9 blocks
Drummond: 12.6 PPG, 60% shooting, 12.7 rebounds, 1.8 blocks
But we're suppose to believe that Drummond has all this more impact on the game
Davis: 20.1 PPG, 53% shooting, 10.4 rebounds, 2.9 blocks
Drummond: 12.6 PPG, 60% shooting, 12.7 rebounds, 1.8 blocks
But we're suppose to believe that Drummond has all this more impact on the game
Gil Scott-Heroin
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He's not averaging 20 PPG on any team. DeAndre has no plays run for him also. It's not possible at all. One thing I can see you're failing to take into account, is that DJ plays with a 20+ PPG scorer in the frontcourt. a 16-17 PPG scorer off the bench, CP3 who will avg around 19-20 PPG and Redikk who averages 16 PPG. There isn't enough touches to go around for DJ to put up big numbers, that's why you can't go on their difference on PPG at the moment and think that 'oh Jordan is average 9 points per game and Drummond is averaging 12 points per game' and automatically assume that since he's averaging 3 points more than him on a worse team he could average another 5-8 points more on a better team. Simply not enough touches.
Jordan would probably average the same numbers on that Detroit team if he was in place of Drummond ATM and likewise if Drummond was on the Clippers.
djthegreat88
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Im just saying drummond if healthy will be an all star C for a long time. Jordon is just okay. I will always value a true C over a PF between drum and davis
Gil Scott-Heroin
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It's one thing saying that Drummond CAN be an All Star 5 for a long time, and another saying that he could average 20 PPG RIGHT NOW when he has such a limited offensive skillset.
These are the frontcourt players that are averaging 20+ PPG:
Love, Griffin, Davis, Aldridge, Nowitzki and Cousins.
Drummond's skillset is no where near any of those guys, like not even in the same conversation.
djthegreat88
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His skill set isn't supposed to be like those guys. He is in the Dwight Howard mold Defense Rebounding Blocking Shots, protecting rim. But unlike Dwight, drum actually has touch around rim. Other than cousins, those are all PF. I value C over PF by big margin. I skimmed over the 20 ppg thing. Its irrelevant withe kind of player drum is.
Gil Scott-Heroin
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That's why he ain't a 20 PPG scorer. Before you responded to my post did you even read what I first quoted? I'm not talking about preference.
djthegreat88
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I dont even know what your talking about anymore. I compared him to Dwight who has avg. 20 pg a gm early in his career doing exactly what Drummond can do. Im done. Bottom line is there is no other young big id rather have than Drummond.
That's why he ain't a 20 PPG scorer. Before you responded to my post did you even read what I first quoted? I'm not talking about preference.
Gil Scott-Heroin
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It'd probably be best if you read before quoting. I responded to a post that said 'Dre could be a 20 PPG scorer right now', plus adding there isn't much difference between Dre and Jordan at this stage. I wasn't arguing anything in regards to preference, I don't even know why you'd even bring that up - it had nothing to do with what I said.
You just creating shyt out of thin air.
And no Drummond isn't close to the player Howard was in Orlando, it's silly to even suggest he could put up similar numbers to Howard, in his current form.