Baltimore having the worse year in a decade or so with murder and drug crime.

[Calmye]

Lol at people thinking this has anything to do with Freddie Grey. B-More is going to go back to the shyt hole it was and we'll all forget about black folks destroying themselves until a white cop kills someone else. Then all the fake militants are going to come out and blame white folks for every aspect of their shytty lives. Then Al Sharpton will come, then marches, then riots, then repeat. Nothing will ever become of that city until the people ACTUALLY care.

 

[Matt504]

I agree, but for us to get our point across I think it's important to show some sort of solidarity.Yes,they're are always gonna be the bad eggs, but for an increase in violence/death, I just don't understand how nobody but me sees how it could possibly undermine the protest efforts. To me personally all black lives matter even the people I don't like, but I guess some don't feel the same.

If you look at the protests, Black people are showing solidarity, there's no increase of violence or death, this is just a continuation of the violence and death that's already plaguing Baltimore. Violence existed before the protests and will continue to exist afterwards, the only people who will allow "more violence" to undermine the protest efforts are people who are probably not all that bright to begin with if they think that protests will rally all Black people together including those that lead lives of crime. criminals do criminal things, including but not limited to killing people.

your post is basically, "if you want people to take the protests seriously then Black people need to completely stop killing each other", which is idealistic and absurd. the conditions that led to these people being killed are still in place, and a protest doesn't somehow 'suspend' reality.

 

[Dreamer]

If you look at the protests, Black people are showing solidarity, there's no increase of violence or death, this is just a continuation of the violence and death that's already plaguing Baltimore. Violence existed before the protests and will continue to exist afterwards, the only people who will allow "more violence" to undermine the protest efforts are people who are probably not all that bright to begin with if they think that protests will rally all Black people together including those that lead lives of crime. criminals do criminal things, including but not limited to killing people.

your post is basically, "if you want people to take the protests seriously then Black people need to completely stop killing each other", which is idealistic and absurd. the conditions that led to these people being killed are still in place, and a protest doesn't somehow 'suspend' reality.

My post doesn't say that, there will always be murderers, it's "absurd" that you're getting that from what i actually typed.

I didn't say it undermines the protests physically, although I would have to say that is a possibility if people are scared to be out in the street. It undermines the message of black lives matter imo. Also there is literally and increase in shootings.

On the nightly show a couple weeks ago, Larry Wilmore went to a restaurant with rival blood/crip gang members who were working together to protect businesses in their neighborhood from looters. I know this doesn't solve all problems in Baltimore, but imo it's a beautiful example of black people coming together to change things that they have the power to, solidarity.

And who knows if that partnership will last, but it's a start.

 

[Matt504]

My post doesn't say that, there will always be murderers, it's "absurd" that you're getting that from what i actually typed.

I didn't say it undermines the protests physically, although I would have to say that is a possibility if people are scared to be out in the street. It undermines the message of black lives matter imo. Also there is literally and increase in shootings.

On the nightly show a couple weeks ago, Larry Wilmore went to a restaurant with rival blood/crip gang members who were working together to protect businesses in their neighborhood from looters. I know this doesn't solve all problems in Baltimore, but imo it's a beautiful example of black people coming together to change things that they have the power to, solidarity.

And who knows if that partnership will last, but it's a start.

explain how it undermines the message that Black lives matter and include proof of this increase in shootings.

A Black person killing another Black person doesn't mean that Black lives don't matter but rather the life of the person he kills doesn't matter to him, unless you're suggesting that Black people are killing random Black people for no other reason than them being Black.

crime is based on proximity, if a Black person kills another Black person because that person owed them money and refused to repay, this does not suggest that Black lives don't matter, the murder isn't motivated by Blackness.

 

[Dreamer]

explain how it undermines the message that Black lives matter and include proof of this increase in shootings.

A Black person killing another Black person doesn't mean that Black lives don't matter but rather the life of the person he kills doesn't matter to him, unless you're suggesting that Black people are killing random Black people for no other reason than them being Black.

crime is based on proximity, if a Black person kills another Black person because that person owed them money and refused to repay, this does not suggest that Black lives don't matter, the murder isn't motivated by Blackness.

Does it matter why they were murdered? Is it not diminishing the value of a black life to take tyat life. If people who owe you money need to die for not paying it, you will never get it back when they are dead, how much money owed is a black life worth, why are you "loaning" people money in the first place if this may be the end results.

Police shoot black people because they see them as less than, they do everything they can to avoid shooting whites. Because they see them as brothers, idk why the black community doesn't look at it that way when they gun down someone who is a brother.

There are people everywhere who support the black lives matter movement even people who aren't black, at what point will they say forget it, why am I wasting time money etc on this when black people murder each other on a daily basis, black lives literally do not matter to some black people, and if it's because someone owes them drug money does that mean it gets a pass and the drug dealers do care about black lives just not as much as money?

The opening topic is about the increase in violence i think there are links i forget.

Motivation to murder your brother doesn't excuse your brothers murder, yes crime is usually a proximity thing, you destroy the value of your own community with drug dealing gangs etc, how is that proving your point, I never said someone owed money is more likely to kill a black person then a white one, they aren't murdered specifically for bein black who said they were? That black life is still is lost. Be just as enraged about that life lost as Freddies, just my two cents.

Now off to take the young black lives I'm responsible for to the library. Nice talking with you.

 

[88m3]

Extremely sad, but this shows the need for an organized, militant movement that correctly identifies the problem and builds solidarity instead of fostering atomization.

instead of killing people we need to kill capitalism

 

[Matt504]

Does it matter why they were murdered? Is it not diminishing the value of a black life to take tyat life. If people who owe you money need to die for not paying it, you will never get it back when they are dead, how much money owed is a black life worth, why are you "loaning" people money in the first place if this may be the end results.

Police shoot black people because they see them as less than, they do everything they can to avoid shooting whites. Because they see them as brothers, idk why the black community doesn't look at it that way when they gun down someone who is a brother.

There are people everywhere who support the black lives matter movement even people who aren't black, at what point will they say forget it, why am I wasting time money etc on this when black people murder each other on a daily basis, black lives literally do not matter to some black people, and if it's because someone owes them drug money does that mean it gets a pass and the drug dealers do care about black lives just not as much as money?

The opening topic is about the increase in violence i think there are links i forget.

Motivation to murder your brother doesn't excuse your brothers murder, yes crime is usually a proximity thing, you destroy the value of your own community with drug dealing gangs etc, how is that proving your point, I never said someone owed money is more likely to kill a black person then a white one, they aren't murdered specifically for bein black who said they were? That black life is still is lost. Be just as enraged about that life lost as Freddies, just my two cents.

Now off to take the young black lives I'm responsible for to the library. Nice talking with you.

I pray those Black lives you're responsible for grow up to have better comprehension skills than you.

 

[Truth200]

instead of killing people we need to kill capitalism

 

[Made Myself A Boss]

Well, we don't call it Bodymore, Murderland and tell people they better "Bmore careful" for nothing

 

[Dreamer]

I pray those Black lives you're responsible for grow up to have better comprehension skills than you.

Disagreeing is not the same as comprehension lol, I listened to you respectfully and responded appropriately imo with jmo

I give my kids the best of what I know, but at the end of the day they will make their own choices and decisions. I just give them the tools, and the seeds, if they decide to pull whatever is growing up and plant something new i'll respect that.

I respect people enough to know that they can have a different opinion, and it doesn't hurt me, I like to hear other peoples ideas because I know I can only see the world through my own eyes, and I don't know everything about everything.

My mind is open to all opinions, but I have a right to mine, I also have a right to change it.

Thank you for praying for my kids tho that was sweet.

 

[bouncy]

Lol at people thinking this has anything to do with Freddie Grey. B-More is going to go back to the shyt hole it was and we'll all forget about black folks destroying themselves until a white cop kills someone else. Then all the fake militants are going to come out and blame white folks for every aspect of their shytty lives. Then Al Sharpton will come, then marches, then riots, then repeat. Nothing will ever become of that city until the people ACTUALLY care.

Baltimore isn't a shythole, if you visited there is no way you would be saying that.

As far as the violence, shyt is gonna happen but its not the 90's, don't let the news bullshyt you. Out of 622,104 people, seeing a high of 235 killings in 2104(a four year high) is not a dangerous place. Especially when you take into account most of those people know each other, and it was about money, or women.

People love to exaggerate shyt.

Off topic but I was reading about crime rates, and noticed that a lot of places like NYC are seen as safe, but when they mention things like homicides, they are referring to Manhattan, not the whole metro area which includes the outer boroughs. I wonder what the true number is when they include the whole city. Of course Manhattan would be low because its a rich area now. To me its a lot of trickery going on, and most fall for it.

Edit: I just read they do include the boroughs, so now I'm really confused because last week I read the opposite. This number shyt is a game that politicians use, but they don't even agree on them. shyt is a Joke.

 

[ManBearPig]

Baltimore been a city with a lot of homicides for generations.

 

[ManBearPig]

Well, we don't call it Bodymore, Murderland and tell people they better "Bmore careful" for nothing

Lol u beat me to it.

 

[tmonster]

because we want people to value our lives, and are showing we don't

Who's we? why do black criminals represent all black people? do white people not value their lives because white criminals exist?

 

[tmonster]

Who said it wasn't, people fom all walks of life are protesting, with all diffrent pasts

you implicitly did