Biden signs bill that could ban tiktok within a year

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This! None of this has to do with data breaches. These old white men don't like that people are watching the first video recorded genocide in real time and it's fueling protests against their policies. They also don't like that real Black and Native American history that they've been trying to ban and curtail are being taught and spread to the entire world on a platform they have no control over. The amount of learning going on in HistoryTikTok, Book TikTok, Politics TikTok is threatening the chokehold our government has had on information. Information is power, and this is their way of trying to restrict it.

The question i have is why yall just realizing this now. Hoe biden been actively doing that shyt his whole term. Literally trying to rewrite history and these fools in here were cosigning everything simply because someone else told them to fear Trump. People in here can think for themselves but acting like they got a gun to their hard. Mods and admins allowing certain fools to shill and then censoring anybody who isnt kissing the governments ass.
 

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True. But as a massive media company that operates with impunity in the US, I can see the logic in making sure their ownership is American. :manny:
In all honesty, I don't see how THIS is more of an issue for people than voter laws, abortion and shyt that actually matters.

Shows that the TikTok brain cancer has already taken hold.

tiktok is the only major social media site in the U.S not owned by caucasians, and here you are saying i can see the logic in ensuring caucasians own this app that minority groups have built communities on and spread awareness with.
 

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americans have the right to receive any information they want from foriegn sources because it's been held up by the supreme court already.

Americans can receive all the propaganda they want, what won’t happen is a foreign adversary who are authoritarian dictatorships being able to use state assets to influence American democracy.


The federal government has the unilateral authority to regulate commerce and manage national security




i would be more perturbed if there was a 4:1 ratio of videos being served that favorably promoted israels actions.

I don’t particular care if it’s biased against Israel. Israel’s earned that. I care that you are using an argument that free speech is being infringed upon when it’s clear that China influences what is allowed to be discussed in the app.

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it's obvious they trying to control the narrative on all platforms americasn have access to.









1. r/socialism is a tankie sub that bans democratic socialists, anarchists, and anyone not a dyed in the whool Maoist. Not to be taken seriously

2. https://twitter.com/hasanthehun



I can post dozens more. Who is being censored on Twitter?
 
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I'll keep a distribution and make sure it leaks onto the web at varying intervals from varying locations.......game on.....it's play
 
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tiktok is the only major social media site in the U.S not owned by caucasians, and here you are saying i can see the logic in ensuring caucasians own this app that minority groups have built communities on and spread awareness with.
Most things around Americans are questionable as to ownwership/foreign ownership......it tells a story the things that get focused on though........a foreign company can own whatever you live in, drive, consume..........but he'll naw to direct communication with the world.......that shyt is dangerous.......and they right....... dangerous for them
 

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Americans can receive all the propaganda they want, what won’t happen is a foreign adversary who are authoritarian dictatorships being able to use state assets to influence American democracy.


The federal government has the unilateral authority to regulate commerce and manage national security






I don’t particular care if it’s biased against Israel. Israel’s earned that. I care that you are using an argument that free speech is being infringed upon when it’s clear that China influences what is allowed to be discussed in the app.




1. r/socialism is a tankie sub that bans democratic socialists, anarchists, and anyone not a dyed in the whool Maoist. Not to be taken seriously

2. https://twitter.com/hasanthehun



I can post dozens more. Who is being censored on Twitter?



 

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This country is cooked. Its citizens are standing Chinese spyware. And you CCP members talking about free speech knowing good and goddamn while every American SM app, and Free Speech itself, is prohibited in China.

China's been playing America against itself for the last 40 years. From funding the OP epidemic, state sponsored IP theft and monthly cyberattacks/data leaks, to slowly boxing thr West out of Africa and Asia. Imma have to learn Chinese:unimpressed:
 

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This country is cooked. Its citizens are standing Chinese spyware. And you CCP members talking about free speech knowing good and goddamn while every American SM app, and Free Speech itself, is prohibited in China.

China's been playing America against itself for the last 40 years. From funding the OP epidemic, state sponsored IP theft and monthly cyberattacks/data leaks, to slowly boxing thr West out of Africa and Asia. Imma have to learn Chinese:unimpressed:

so we should build out an online censorship framework that authoritarians and the theocrats in the U.S would make repeated us of. :childplease:
 

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so we should build out an online censorship framework that authoritarians and the theocrats in the U.S would make repeated us of. :childplease:
A defacto online censorship already exists. The government bullies online vendors into working with the state by snitching on us. Tiktok's existence or non-existence doesn't change this. There's no legitimate reason to save or stan tiktok over any of these other apps. There's nothing special about outside its user base. Take it away and people will go somewhere else.
 

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Tiktok is owned a hostile state and the US is currently having trade/cyber/culture/proxy wars with said hostile state.
It's owned by Singapore BUT you are correct that it is being controlled by an Authoritarian hostile state that we are currently having a trade/cyber/culture/proxy wars with.

People will use YouTube, IG, and Musk will likely bring back Vine and life will go on.
 

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A defacto online censorship already exists. The government bullies online vendors into working with the state by snitching on us. Tiktok's existence or non-existence doesn't change this. There's no legitimate reason to save or stan tiktok over any of these other apps. There's nothing special about outside its user base. Take it away and people will go somewhere else.

wheres the legal framework for banning sites then?
 

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wheres the legal framework for banning sites then?
I'm not a legal expert on new media but can't imagine it being not too different than framework for banning speech. I mean we live in country where there's more restrictions on Free Speech than Gun ownership. We've always banned certain types of speech, through American history. Its damn near a tradition.

I'm sure the Fed would love to the same to those other apps but China owning Tiktok gives the US the manys excuses they need to clamp down. If Tiktok actually carried about existing they would drop China all together. The app owners don't care because they're playing their role....the same role Chinese companies have been doing with to IP laws....or Chinese property investors in the midwest....poking holes in our legal system to manipulate our politics and economy.
 

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I'm not a legal expert on new media but can't imagine it being not too different than framework for banning speech. I mean we live in country where there's more restrictions on Free Speech than Gun ownership. We've always banned certain types of speech, through American history. Its damn near a tradition.

I'm sure the Fed would love to the same to those other apps but China owning Tiktok gives the US the manys excuses they need to clamp down. If Tiktok actually carried about existing they would drop China all together. The app owners don't care because they're playing their role....the same role Chinese companies have been doing with to IP laws....or Chinese property investors in the midwest....poking holes in our legal system to manipulate our politics and economy.

there is no legal framework, how many apps or websites you think the government has banned before? the government can seize a website or ban a app because of criminal activity from a court judgement but they can't start putting websites and apps on ban lists.
 

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TikTok will not be sold, Chinese parent tells US​

TikTok logo and US flag.

IMAGE SOURCE,REUTERS
Image caption,ByteDance says a report it plans to sell TikTok "are not true"Article information
  • Author,João da Silva
  • Role,Business reporter
  • 26 April 2024

TikTok's Chinese parent company ByteDance says it has no intention of selling the business after the US passed a law to force it to sell the hugely popular video app or be banned in America.

"ByteDance doesn't have any plans to sell TikTok," the company posted on its official account on Toutiao, a social media platform it owns.

TikTok did not immediately respond to a request for comment from the BBC.

Earlier this week, TikTok said it would challenge in court the "unconstitutional" law.

The statement from ByteDance came in response to an article by the technology industry website The Information that said it was exploring the potential sale of TikTok’s operation in the US without the algorithm that powers it.

"Foreign media reports of ByteDance selling TikTok are not true," the company said in the post, which included a screen shot of the article with the Chinese characters meaning "false rumour" stamped on it.

Screen grab of ByteDance's social media post.

IMAGE SOURCE,BYTEDANCE

Image caption,ByteDance denied the report on a social media site it owns

The sell-or-ban measure was signed into law by US President Joe Biden on Wednesday.

Beijing's tightening grip on private companies has raised concerns in the US, and other Western countries, about how much control the Chinese Communist Party has over ByteDance, and the data it holds.

TikTok has repeatedly denied claims the Chinese government has control over ByteDance.

"We are confident and we will keep fighting for your rights in the courts," said TikTok boss Shou Zi Chew in a video posted on the platform this week.

"The facts, and the Constitution, are on our side... rest assured, we aren't going anywhere."


According to TikTok, ByteDance's Chinese founder owns 20% of shares, through a controlling stake in the company.

About 60% is owned by institutional investors, including major US investment firms Carlyle Group, General Atlantic, and Susquehanna International Group.

The remaining 20% is owned by its employees around the world and three of ByteDance's five board members are American.

The Chinese government has also dismissed such concerns as paranoia and has warned that a TikTok ban would "inevitably come back to bite the US".

However, TikTok is not facing an immediate ban in the US.

The new law gives ByteDance nine months to sell the business, and an additional three-month grace period, before a potential ban can be enforced.

That means the sale deadline would most likely come some time in 2025, after the winner of the 2024 presidential election takes office.
 
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