Further compensation sounds like more money thrown Cavs way, like at least a couple millions, maybe more
I'm fine with that
You funny as hell
Boston adds 2nd round pick to finalize the Kyrie Irving trade
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Kang Deezy
Overall Nice Guy
Depends on what gets added
Imo cavaliers got us by the balls but at the same time the league is probably on the Celtics side as this wasn't exactly hidden and Cleveland announced the trade on social media
If Tatum or brown gets added I'll lose my shyt... if it's a weak first rounder, second rounder, whatever but I think at this point the league gets involved... it can be a pick but not another player
Why couldn't this have happened when OKC traded Jeff Green to us with a bad heart 
Sources: Cavs plan to seek extra Celtics asset
After Cleveland's physical examination of Isaiah Thomas' injured hip raised concern about the timeline for his return this season, Cavaliers officials are planning to seek an additional trade asset before finalizing a deal to send four-time All-Star guard Kyrie Irving to the Boston Celtics, league sources said.
Without revisions to the original trade agreement, the Cavaliers could threaten to veto the trade, league sources said.
The Cavaliers' stance could trigger a standoff between Cleveland and Boston officials, forcing both organizations to weigh the consequences of letting the blockbuster trade implode.
The proposed trade sending Irving to the Celtics for two-time All-Star Thomas, forward Jae Crowder, center Ante Zizic and an unprotected 2018 first-round pick via Brooklyn was thrust into uncertainty once Thomas underwent his exam in Cleveland on Friday, league sources said. The deadline to report and submit to a physical for the players involved in the trade is 10 a.m. on Wednesday, and the deadline to pass the physical is 10 a.m. on Thursday, per league rules.
However, if both teams mutually agree to extend the deadline, they can. Once the sides re-engage, Cavaliers officials may try to make the case that Boston undersold them on the scope of the Thomas injury, and more specifically, how soon Thomas could be prepared to play this season, league sources said. The sides did discuss and share information on Thomas's injury, sources said.
Because Thomas is in the final year of his contract -- which coincides with LeBron James' opt-out next summer -- Cleveland has an urgency to get Thomas on the court this year.
All along, Boston has believed it was clear in its assessment of Thomas' physical status and that information was communicated to the Cavaliers in the conversations prior to Tuesday's trade, league sources said. In a telephone conference call with reporters after the trade was announced, Celtics general manager Danny Ainge admitted that Thomas' physical condition played "some" role in trading him to Cleveland as part of the Irving package.
Cleveland had significantly valued the 2018 Nets pick in the trade, and Boston believed it allowed for Thomas' physical uncertainty in the current terms of the deal, league sources said.
Thomas, 28, will be an unrestricted free agent in 2018, and could still re-establish his market value with a strong performance and a return to his quick, explosive self. Cleveland had coveted 2017 No. 3 overall draft pick Jayson Tatum, but Boston has consistently remained unwilling to include him into trade talks for Irving, league sources said.
Besides its own future first-round picks, Boston has possible access to future protected picks from the Los Angeles Lakers (2018), LA Clippers (2019) and Memphis Grizzlies (2019). Boston does have control of several second-round draft picks, too, which also could be included into a deal.
Irving was scheduled to take his physical with the Celtics on Saturday in Boston, league sources said. He had requested a trade from Cleveland earlier in the summer, and the possibility of finding another significant deal package without Boston's assets as leverage in the negotiations could be a sizable task for the Cavaliers.
Thomas has been rehabilitating a hip injury that ended his season in the Eastern Conference finals, and sources have told ESPN that he has yet to begin a regimen of running this offseason.
If the deal falls apart, Boston would have to count on using its arsenal of draft picks, Crowder and other assets to bring it another point guard in a future trade -- if Thomas isn't the long-term answer. Still, it is unlikely that the Celtics could find a point guard of Thomas' stature on the market -- never mind Irving's.
How Thomas and Crowder's psyches would be impacted upon a vetoed trade returning them to Boston is a factor in this process too. Cleveland could be facing a bigger challenge bringing Irving, 25, back into the contentious Cavaliers situation.
He asked for a trade and has wanted no part of a return to the Cavaliers. Cleveland would need to quickly re-engage potential teams around the league on trade scenarios again. The Cavaliers could ultimately help themselves in the short term by moving Irving to one of the several Western Conference teams that they had discussed deals.
This way, the Cavaliers wouldn't be fortifying the biggest threat to their Eastern Conference supremacy, Boston, in the final year before James could leave in free agency. Still, Boston had offered Cleveland the deal it most wanted -- which included a draft pick that is likely better than any other available to the Cavaliers on the market.
After Cleveland's physical examination of Isaiah Thomas' injured hip raised concern about the timeline for his return this season, Cavaliers officials are planning to seek an additional trade asset before finalizing a deal to send four-time All-Star guard Kyrie Irving to the Boston Celtics, league sources said.
Without revisions to the original trade agreement, the Cavaliers could threaten to veto the trade, league sources said.
The Cavaliers' stance could trigger a standoff between Cleveland and Boston officials, forcing both organizations to weigh the consequences of letting the blockbuster trade implode.
The proposed trade sending Irving to the Celtics for two-time All-Star Thomas, forward Jae Crowder, center Ante Zizic and an unprotected 2018 first-round pick via Brooklyn was thrust into uncertainty once Thomas underwent his exam in Cleveland on Friday, league sources said. The deadline to report and submit to a physical for the players involved in the trade is 10 a.m. on Wednesday, and the deadline to pass the physical is 10 a.m. on Thursday, per league rules.
However, if both teams mutually agree to extend the deadline, they can. Once the sides re-engage, Cavaliers officials may try to make the case that Boston undersold them on the scope of the Thomas injury, and more specifically, how soon Thomas could be prepared to play this season, league sources said. The sides did discuss and share information on Thomas's injury, sources said.
Because Thomas is in the final year of his contract -- which coincides with LeBron James' opt-out next summer -- Cleveland has an urgency to get Thomas on the court this year.
All along, Boston has believed it was clear in its assessment of Thomas' physical status and that information was communicated to the Cavaliers in the conversations prior to Tuesday's trade, league sources said. In a telephone conference call with reporters after the trade was announced, Celtics general manager Danny Ainge admitted that Thomas' physical condition played "some" role in trading him to Cleveland as part of the Irving package.
Cleveland had significantly valued the 2018 Nets pick in the trade, and Boston believed it allowed for Thomas' physical uncertainty in the current terms of the deal, league sources said.
Thomas, 28, will be an unrestricted free agent in 2018, and could still re-establish his market value with a strong performance and a return to his quick, explosive self. Cleveland had coveted 2017 No. 3 overall draft pick Jayson Tatum, but Boston has consistently remained unwilling to include him into trade talks for Irving, league sources said.
Besides its own future first-round picks, Boston has possible access to future protected picks from the Los Angeles Lakers (2018), LA Clippers (2019) and Memphis Grizzlies (2019). Boston does have control of several second-round draft picks, too, which also could be included into a deal.
Irving was scheduled to take his physical with the Celtics on Saturday in Boston, league sources said. He had requested a trade from Cleveland earlier in the summer, and the possibility of finding another significant deal package without Boston's assets as leverage in the negotiations could be a sizable task for the Cavaliers.
Thomas has been rehabilitating a hip injury that ended his season in the Eastern Conference finals, and sources have told ESPN that he has yet to begin a regimen of running this offseason.
If the deal falls apart, Boston would have to count on using its arsenal of draft picks, Crowder and other assets to bring it another point guard in a future trade -- if Thomas isn't the long-term answer. Still, it is unlikely that the Celtics could find a point guard of Thomas' stature on the market -- never mind Irving's.
How Thomas and Crowder's psyches would be impacted upon a vetoed trade returning them to Boston is a factor in this process too. Cleveland could be facing a bigger challenge bringing Irving, 25, back into the contentious Cavaliers situation.
He asked for a trade and has wanted no part of a return to the Cavaliers. Cleveland would need to quickly re-engage potential teams around the league on trade scenarios again. The Cavaliers could ultimately help themselves in the short term by moving Irving to one of the several Western Conference teams that they had discussed deals.
This way, the Cavaliers wouldn't be fortifying the biggest threat to their Eastern Conference supremacy, Boston, in the final year before James could leave in free agency. Still, Boston had offered Cleveland the deal it most wanted -- which included a draft pick that is likely better than any other available to the Cavaliers on the market.
Leavingtheecstasy
All Star
Cleveland wins this trade only if IT can heal quickly.
If not, Bron has to be gone next year because he's gonna be absolutely pissed losing to these hoe ass warriors again.
If not, Bron has to be gone next year because he's gonna be absolutely pissed losing to these hoe ass warriors again.
CouldBeWorse
Superstar
This whole thing has hurt IT2's pockets so bad 
They win no matter what. Depending on the true severity of the injury the Cavs will get another 1st or even Tatum or Brown.
Bron can't play forever, they have to start looking to the future eventually.
Th3G3ntleman
Superstar
Man if they can get that Lakers/Sac pick. XD.
Make it happen LeGM
Make it happen LeGM
This trade isn't even about IT lol. Its what they can get for Kyrie. If they let IT walk, its still damned good cap relief and the return on the assets is way better than anything else out there.
Cavs know they ain't competing with GS anymore and its already likely that LBJ leaves anyways. This trade is for the aftermath of both those scenarios. And if IT is straight, they still are sitting good.
Boston getting ran through twice
ALonelyDad
Veteran
UpAndComing
Veteran
Cavs fans and Celtics haters in here graspin for straws, I love it
ALonelyDad
Veteran
Cavs would have two top 10 picks going into the rebuild if Lebron does leave. That is a good start at rebuilding. I am putting all pressure on Celtics to give up the lakers/kings pick. IT is not going back to Boston and cavs have multiple suitors for Kyrie
Kang Deezy
Overall Nice Guy
Multiple suitors? Please tell me a better offer you've heard even considering Isaiah's injury... 2018 Brooklyn pick trumps everything
Please mention Eric Bledsoe so I can laugh too
Then they're free to leave the Brooklyn pick on the table and go get Khris Middleton