Boston adds 2nd round pick to finalize the Kyrie Irving trade

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Boston had 5 first round picks and 7 secound round picks in the next 2 years and all Cleveland got was a secound round pick in 2020?:dwillhuh::mjlol::dead::dead:

So either Ainge jedi mind-tricked the Cavs into accepting that to compensate for an injured IT, or the Cavs were lying ass bytch-asses:aicmon:

We still got the best player in the trade :myman:
 

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From everything reported and for it to get resolved with a throwaway 2020 2nd rounder it sounds like Cleveland knew completely the extent of ITs injury status :aicmon:... LeBron got wind that IT might not be ready to later in the season and they played up all this bullshyt to save face with him... Whole time they don't give a shyt if Thomas plays at all... He's a rental and what they really wanted was the Brooklyn pick for the long term
 

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From everything reported and for it to get resolved with a throwaway 2020 2nd rounder it sounds like Cleveland knew completely the extent of ITs injury status :aicmon:... LeBron got wind that IT might not be ready to later in the season and they played up all this bullshyt to save face with him... Whole time they don't give a shyt if Thomas plays at all... He's a rental and what they really wanted was the Brooklyn pick for the long term

It's either lebron or Gilbert reacting to it's injury for sure
 

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The Celtics overpayed because of isaiah's injury... I'm in the minority on thinking Brooklyn will be better than expected this year but these Brooklyn picks are the most talked about assets in the league

Cleveland fans cry it's not fair like it's boston's fault that they have a terrible owners, they couldn't repair the Kyrie relationship and they gave out ridiculous contracts to Thompson, jr, shump, korver etc.

Of course Cleveland wants another asset because they need them to attach to those horrible contracts to get them off the books

But even considering Isaiah missing time, the Boston offer is still the best offer by far. Crowder's contract, the Brooklyn pick, and zizic who could potentially be a starter at some point but at the very least a rotational player on a cheap contract... cleveland has his rights for at least 5 years

They could easily flip crowder next season, his contract makes him a valuable asset

Don't think you're off with Brooklyn better next season.
 

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Which would've been the dumbest thing they could do, but "youth movements" and "potential" are always big on The Coli for whatever reason.

The dumbest? Not so sure. If LeBron refuses to commit then you have no choice but to gear up for the future, it's another reason why you won't see this pick traded for a guy like Boogie or PG, the Cavs ain't gonna watch LeBron leave and have nothing to show for it this time.
 

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It's either lebron or Gilbert reacting to it's injury for sure

Yup logic dictates one of those two...I settled on LeBron cause it's been reported Gilbert has been calling the shots on the Cavs side thru the new GM Koby as proxy... They knew 100% IT's status and to the extent that it lowered his value is the only reason they got the Brooklyn pick in the first place... Then when Bron and Lue find out IT is while away from being ready they play this bullshyt up in the media to act like they aren't punting on this season to a degree, cause they know Bron is leaving or have to operate assuming he is cause he refuses to commit... Feigning shock about ITs injury preserves plausible deniability on the "win now" part they pitch to LeBron


Our Long Cavaliers-Celtics Trade Nightmare Is Over


Koby Altman may be the latest person to call himself Cleveland Cavaliers general manager—the fourth in the last 12 years since Dan Gilbert bought the team—but multiple sources have told me that the Cavs owner was the one calling the shots on the trade that sent Irving to Boston, and he’s the one dealing with the fallout.

Gilbert’s fingerprints were all over the drama that’s unfolded over the past week. Thomas’s health is what held up the deal, but according to multiple league sources with knowledge of Cleveland’s thought process, the unprotected Nets pick and Crowder were the pieces that Cleveland valued the most—those were the assets that got the deal done, not Thomas. The perception of the trade was that the Cavaliers and Celtics swapped franchise point guards, but for the Cleveland front office (and its owner), Thomas was the icing, not the cake.

This might come as a surprise to anyone who watched Thomas score 28.9 points per game on a ridiculously efficient 1.13 points per possession last season, earning him second-team All-NBA honors. But the Celtics wouldn’t have sweetened the pot with the Nets pick and Crowder if Thomas were 100 percent healthy, according to a source with knowledge of Boston’s thinking, nor could Cleveland have demanded such a package. Thomas’s injury was priced into the deal, in the sense that he didn’t have full value.


The answer certainly matters to some members of the Cavaliers organization, namely LeBron James and head coach Ty Lue. One league source with an understanding of Cleveland’s situation told me that as news spread throughout the organization that Thomas could miss time deep into the upcoming season, James and Lue cooled on the deal. According to the same source, both the Cavs’ franchise player and their head coach were apparently told by upper management that Thomas and Crowder were being brought in to help the team compete with the Warriors, now.
 

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Yup logic dictates one of those two...I settled on LeBron cause it's been reported Gilbert has been calling the shots on the Cavs side thru the new GM Koby as proxy... They knew 100% IT's status and to the extent that it lowered his value is the only reason they got the Brooklyn pick in the first place... Then when Bron and Lue find out IT is while away from being ready they play this bullshyt up in the media to act like they aren't punting on this season to a degree, cause they know Bron is leaving or have to operate assuming he is cause he refuses to commit... Feigning shock about ITs injury preserves plausible deniability on the "win now" part they pitch to LeBron


Our Long Cavaliers-Celtics Trade Nightmare Is Over

Yeah I just caught that

So it was lebron and lue reacting which had Gilbert shook
 

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Yup logic dictates one of those two...I settled on LeBron cause it's been reported Gilbert has been calling the shots on the Cavs side thru the new GM Koby as proxy... They knew 100% IT's status and to the extent that it lowered his value is the only reason they got the Brooklyn pick in the first place... Then when Bron and Lue find out IT is while away from being ready they play this bullshyt up in the media to act like they aren't punting on this season to a degree, cause they know Bron is leaving or have to operate assuming he is cause he refuses to commit... Feigning shock about ITs injury preserves plausible deniability on the "win now" part they pitch to LeBron


Our Long Cavaliers-Celtics Trade Nightmare Is Over
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The dumbest? Not so sure. If LeBron refuses to commit then you have no choice but to gear up for the future, it's another reason why you won't see this pick traded for a guy like Boogie or PG, the Cavs ain't gonna watch LeBron leave and have nothing to show for it this time.
You don't pass up opportunities to win a championship for the future when you're an organization that has shown it doesn't know what the hell it's doing.

But then again, I suppose that's oxymoronic, since this is an organization that doesn't know what the hell it's doing.
 

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You don't pass up opportunities to win a championship for the future when you're an organization that has shown it doesn't know what the hell it's doing.

But then again, I suppose that's oxymoronic, since this is an organization that doesn't know what the hell it's doing.

What are you talking about? They won a championship already, and their competition got better due to luck and basically a loophole in the rules. There's almost NO move they could make to further compete with the Warriors, so either they hope they get injured, or prepare for the Lebronless Cavs era.
 

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What are you talking about? They won a championship already, and their competition got better due to luck and basically a loophole in the rules. There's almost NO move they could make to further compete with the Warriors, so either they hope they get injured, or prepare for the Lebronless Cavs era.
I get it. Y'all, and the Cavs assumedly if they follow this path, are just operating from a mindset of weakness. The Cavaliers have the tools to compete with the Warriors, and the opportunity to do so; not to mention there are teams in the West who should be able to compete with Golden State this year as well, so there's a possibility they end up playing Houston or San Antonio in the Finals. Golden State is the overwhelming favorite, they're not the inked in champions already.

Besides, if they absolutely only want to go for a title this one season, they have assets in that Nets pick alone to make a move to improve their roster, alongside the fact they probably need to get rid of Shumpert anyway.
 
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