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Bron says you can't compare 80's and 90's players playing 82 games to today's game due to the faster pace.
- Thread starter Barney Rubble
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It's mind boggling how something like distance traveled is so difficult for people to grasp.
Players today are asked to do more than in past eras. And so the physical demands OVER TIME are greater.
As much as people talk about the eye test and the 1990s and early 2000s, you would think these people would see the plodding, methodical basketball that demanded far less mobility and floor coverage back then... in contrast to the game we see today.
This is an observable, objective truth backed by numbers.
Players today are asked to do more than in past eras. And so the physical demands OVER TIME are greater.
As much as people talk about the eye test and the 1990s and early 2000s, you would think these people would see the plodding, methodical basketball that demanded far less mobility and floor coverage back then... in contrast to the game we see today.
This is an observable, objective truth backed by numbers.
Watch the clip @CHICAGO posted. Nba players today are running 3 line to 3 line as in the past they ran from baseline to baseline. What is the distance measured from each metric? Also they mentioned as well as other former players mentioned how these guys aren't training and getting themselves in shape like how they used to do
Gilbert is wrong though. And it's not accounting for switches and the distance defenders have to run to.
This NBA is not just people chucking 30 foot 3 pointers all day.
This is hyperbolic nonsense from clowns on a podcast. It's not serious basketball discussion.
I can respect Kevin Garnett's thoughts because at least he has the bona fides as a high-motor player for his entire career. But again, both he and Paul Pierce played in a league that was far more stationary and 1-on-1 than the league we see today.
This image has existed for a while now, and is routinely ignored because it shatters this lazy narrative:
The NBA's own stats page even has distance traveled stats for each player that people can look at.
Retired NBA players are just doing what they've largely always done: inflated their own eras and careers and bashed the younger generation as weak or soft.
It's no different than parents cracking on their kids...acting like they walked 5 miles to school in the snow...uphill...both ways.
ReturnOfJudah
Veteran
He's making excuses for not playing Defense
Funny how we have evidence and posters are attacking the messenger (LeBron).
Anything to protect their eras.
Marc Spector
the 4'11 Cuban
Truth.Gilbert is wrong though. And it's not accounting for switches and the distance defenders have to run to.
This NBA is not just people chucking 30 foot 3 pointers all day.
This is hyperbolic nonsense from clowns on a podcast. It's not serious basketball discussion.
I can respect Kevin Garnett's thoughts because at least he has the bona fides as a high-motor player for his entire career. But again, both he and Paul Pierce played in a league that was far more stationary and 1-on-1 than the league we see today.
This image has existed for a while now, and is routinely ignored because it shatters this lazy narrative:
The NBA's own stats page even has distance traveled stats for each player that people can look at.
Retired NBA players are just doing what they've largely always done: inflated their own eras and careers and bashed the younger generation as weak or soft.
It's no different than parents cracking on their kids...acting like they walked 5 miles to school in the snow...uphill...both ways.
THis isnt even accounting for how much mileage these guys have on their bodies coming INTO the NBA. Ball brothers are a prime example of this.
ReturnOfJudah
Veteran
Gilbert is wrong though. And it's not accounting for switches and the distance defenders have to run to.
This NBA is not just people chucking 30 foot 3 pointers all day.
This is hyperbolic nonsense from clowns on a podcast. It's not serious basketball discussion.
I can respect Kevin Garnett's thoughts because at least he has the bona fides as a high-motor player for his entire career. But again, both he and Paul Pierce played in a league that was far more stationary and 1-on-1 than the league we see today.
This image has existed for a while now, and is routinely ignored because it shatters this lazy narrative:
The NBA's own stats page even has distance traveled stats for each player that people can look at.
Retired NBA players are just doing what they've largely always done: inflated their own eras and careers and bashed the younger generation as weak or soft.
It's no different than parents cracking on their kids...acting like they walked 5 miles to school in the snow...uphill...both ways.
THE FACT THAT THIS CHART
SAYS MORE MILES WERE COVERED
IN THE SLOW DEAD BALL ERA
OF THE LATE 90S-2000S
THAN THE FAST PACED 80S
TELLS EVERYONE THIS CHART
AND THESE MILES MEAN ABSOLUTELY shyt
Pace measures possessions. Not distance.
THE FACT THAT THIS CHART
SAYS MORE MILES WERE COVERED
IN THE SLOW DEAD BALL ERA
OF THE LATE 90S-2000S
THAN THE FAST PACED 80S
TELLS EVERYONE THIS CHART
AND THESE MILES MEAN ABSOLUTELY shyt
THE POINT IS
DUDES WERENT MOVING
AROUND MUCH
AT ALL DOING THE DEAD BALL ERA ...
A TON OF ISOLATION BALL
AND POST UPS
SO WHEN WAS THIS DISTANCE
BEING COVERED?
CHART LOOKS LIKE TOTAL BULLshyt.
WHO EVEN CREATED THIS CHART?
WHO ACTUALLY WENT BACK
AND TRACKED EVERY PLAYER,
OF EVERY TEAM OF EVERY SEASON
IN THE 80S, 90S, 2000S
BEFORE THEY BEGAN TO TRACK THAT STUFF?
THIS LOOKS LIKE AN INTERNET HOAX
BECAUSE THAT DEAD BALL ERA
IS A RED FLAG
They can stay on the court. Adam silver has just created an environment where it’s accepted not to play
Ducktales
Brehs be flexing
It’s as simple as the players back then played through the injuries more and players today, will fully recover, but have a little soreness the first game they play and sit out the next 2. I’m not judging either, I understand the money big and they trying to prioritize they health. But the pace thing is bullshyt. Guys running down the court and stopping at the 3 point line and running back on defense and not defending past the opponents 3 point line unless it’s the playoffs. I love the game but both the new school and old school got shyt they do better than the other. Lebron just be saying dumb shyt sometimes
ReturnOfJudah
Veteran
What's funny is the 80s had real point guards not fat mfs like luka being the ball up the court. The point guard of the 80s would run this generation out the building. The Pistons of the 80s would make Bron cry. I could see Mahome spiking the ball at the back of Bron' s head. Just to throw him off
