Bron says you can't compare 80's and 90's players playing 82 games to today's game due to the faster pace.

[Marc Spector]

THE POINT IS
DUDES WERENT MOVING
AROUND MUCH
AT ALL DOING THE DEAD BALL ERA ...

A TON OF ISOLATION BALL
AND POST UPS
SO WHEN WAS THIS DISTANCE
BEING COVERED?

CHART LOOKS LIKE TOTAL BULLshyt.

WHO EVEN CREATED THIS CHART?

WHO ACTUALLY WENT BACK
AND TRACKED EVERY PLAYER,
OF EVERY TEAM OF EVERY SEASON
IN THE 80S, 90S, 2000S
BEFORE THEY BEGAN TO TRACK THAT STUFF?

THIS LOOKS LIKE AN INTERNET HOAX
BECAUSE THAT DEAD BALL ERA
IS A RED FLAG


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The Truth Behind Load Management

…And why it’s probably going to become more pronounced

open.substack.com

tldr: distance doesn’t start to be tracked until 2013 through 2014. But the author found that adding that team/seasons estimated three point attempt rate to pace and multiplying by 100 was consistently producing a very accurate distance traveled figure.

 

[CHICAGO]

The Truth Behind Load Management

…And why it’s probably going to become more pronounced

open.substack.com

tldr: distance doesn’t start to be tracked until 2013 through 2014. But the author found that adding that team/seasons estimated three point attempt rate to pace and multiplying by 100 was consistently producing a very accurate distance traveled figure.

JUST AS I THOUGHT

GET THIS BULLshyt OUTTA HERE

nikkaS RUNNING AROUND
POSTING SOME FICTIONAL ASS CHART

LMAO @ THE DEAD BALL ERA
TRAVELLING MORE DISTANCE
THAN THE 80S.
I KNEW IT WAS SOME
AGENDA shyt SLANTED TOWARDS 3P VOLUME


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[Marc Spector]

What's funny is the 80s had real point guards not fat mfs like luka being the ball up the court. The point guard of the 80s would run this generation out the building. The Pistons of the 80s would make Bron cry. I could see Mahome spiking the ball at the back of Bron' s head. Just to throw him off

lol are u high? Brunson, Fox, Curry, Maxey would snap the ankles of any pg in the 80s Big guards like Luka and Harden are “slower” but would get every thing they wanted on offense

 

[phillycavsfan]

THEY COOKED HIM





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They ain't cook nothing but attention spans.

 

[phillycavsfan]

What's funny is the 80s had real point guards not fat mfs like luka being the ball up the court. The point guard of the 80s would run this generation out the building. The Pistons of the 80s would make Bron cry. I could see Mahome spiking the ball at the back of Bron' s head. Just to throw him off

Makes sense for your argument to use point guards and not overweight big men like Bryant Reeves, Mike Sweetney and Greg Ostertag. Big men like that could never cope with the pace and running of today's game.

 

[Marc Spector]

JUST AS I THOUGHT

GET THIS BULLshyt OUTTA HERE

nikkaS RUNNING AROUND
POSTING SOME FICTIONAL ASS CHART

LMAO @ THE DEAD BALL ERA
TRAVELLING MORE DISTANCE
THAN THE 80S.
I KNEW IT WAS SOME
AGENDA shyt SLANTED TOWARDS 3P VOLUME


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you’re only looking at one side of the ball. Teams, even in the dead ball era, have to move more to close out while contesting the 3 pointer.

 

[CHICAGO]

lol are u high? Brunson, Fox, Curry, Maxey would snap the ankles of any pg in the 80s Big guards like Luka and Harden are “slower” but would get every thing they wanted on offense

THEY ARENT SNAPPING
ANY ANKLES PLAYING
UNDER 80S TRAVELLING
AND PALMING RULES

you’re only looking at one side of the ball. Teams, even in the dead ball era, have to move more to close out while contesting the 3 pointer.

DUDE IT TAKES THESE TALL nikkaS
2 STEPS TO CLOSE OUT
ON A SHOOTER
ADD TO THE FACT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT AN ERA THAT DIDNT
HAVE MANY STRETCH BIGS
SO THE SPACING WAS shyt
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[Chip Skylark]

Fastest Pace by Era (NBA)

1. Early 1960s (peak speed)

• Fastest era ever in terms of possessions per game
• Teams routinely played at 125–130 possessions per game
• Why so fast?
  • No shot clock until 1954 → chaos habits lingered
  • Less half-court offense
  • More turnovers, quick shots, constant running
• 
  
• Think: Wilt, Russell era — track meet basketball

2. ABA (late 1960s–1970s)

• Almost as fast as the ’60s NBA
• Emphasized flair, quick shots, and the 3-point line
• High pace, high scoring, loose structure

3. Modern NBA (2015–present)

• Fast by modern standards, but still slower than the ’60s
• Pace jumped with:
  • Analytics
  • Small-ball
  • Early shot-clock threes
• 
  
• Around 100–102 possessions per game, not historically extreme

4. 1980s

• Fast, but more controlled
• Showtime Lakers pushed tempo, but league average was lower than the ’60s

5. Slowest Era: late 1990s–early 2000s

• Iso-heavy, grind-it-out
• Pace dipped into the low 90s

Final verdict

• Fastest era ever: 1960s NBA
• Flashiest fast era: ABA
• Most efficient fast era: Modern NBA

Per chatgpt

 

[Marc Spector]

THEY ARENT SNAPPING
ANY ANKLES PLAYING
UNDER 80S TRAVELLING
AND PALMING RULES



DUDE IT TAKES THESE TALL nikkaS
2 STEPS TO CLOSE OUT
ON A SHOOTER
ADD TO THE FACT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT AN ERA THAT DIDNT
HAVE MANY STRETCH BIGS
SO THE SPACING WAS shyt






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that’s two steps to close out if you’re lucky, you’re not factoring in defenders having to scramble to chase a swinging ball. and those miles add up.

Not to mention, I think you’re over estimating how much guys moved in the 80s. For the first 20 to 30 years of the NBA’s existence, most offenses were run and gun and shooters would often take a shot the first opportunity they had once they crossed half court, hence why pace was so much faster. Watch any clip from the 80s and you very rarely see defenders having to chase scorers around or stay glued to their hip as the offense was simple and so was the defense.

 

[phillycavsfan]

that’s two steps to close out if you’re lucky, you’re not factoring in defenders having to scramble to chase a swinging ball. and those miles add up.

Not to mention, I think you’re over estimating how much guys moved in the 80s. For the first 20 to 30 years of the NBA’s existence, most offenses were run and gun and shooters would often take a shot the first opportunity they had once they crossed half court, hence why pace was so much faster. Watch any clip from the 80s and you very rarely see defenders having to chase scorers around or stay glued to their hip as the offense was simple and so was the defense.

He's not gonna agree with you. He thinks Fat Lever could guard Curry and Maxey better than anybody in today's NBA. Nostalgia is kicking his ass.

 

[madness]

The Pistons of the 80s would make Bron cry.

The 80s Pistons already had star players crying to David Stern about how physical they were

 

[CHICAGO]

that’s two steps to close out if you’re lucky, you’re not factoring in defenders having to scramble to chase a swinging ball. and those miles add up.

Not to mention, I think you’re over estimating how much guys moved in the 80s. For the first 20 to 30 years of the NBA’s existence, most offenses were run and gun and shooters would often take a shot the first opportunity they had once they crossed half court, hence why pace was so much faster. Watch any clip from the 80s and you very rarely see defenders having to chase scorers around or stay glued to their hip as the offense was simple and so was the defense.

EXACTLY THEY TOOK QUICK SHOTS
AND HAD TO RUN BACK THE OPPOSITE
WAY UP THE COURT...
DO THAT ALL GAME AND WATCH
THOSE MILES ADD UP.

NOW COMPARE THAT TO
THE DEAD BALL ERA
WHERE THEY STOOD AROUND
WATCHING A nikka DRIBBLE
OUT THE CLOCK IN AN ISO
OR WATCHING A BIG POST UP
BEFORE TAKING A SHOT
OR PASSING BACK OUT TO
THE 3 WITH 2 SECONDS ON
THE CLOCK AND THE MATH
DOESNT ADD UP.




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[fifth column]

Makes sense for your argument to use point guards and not overweight big men like Bryant Reeves, Mike Sweetney and Greg Ostertag. Big men like that could never cope with the pace and running of today's game.

So how is Jokic and Senguin doing it

 

[phillycavsfan]

So how is Jokic and Senguin doing it

By being in shape and filling the stat sheet.

 

[fifth column]

By being in shape and filling the stat sheet.

So what factual evidence do you have that ostertag and big country wasn’t in basketball shape?