Can a case be made that DMX is better than Nas?

[Guru]

Reminded me of how uzi was tearing it up a cochella 2017. shirt off, white faces reciting lyrics in the crowd... gawddd damn the dualities

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Son. U couldn't tell me shyt about X at one point. I had ALL his shyt. Unreleased, freestyles. Everything. Went to his classic tours. Hard Knock Life and Ruff Ryder's/Cash Money. But Nah. It's a great album. But it's when X was becoming all bark and aggression and losing his creativity and storytelling.. He put Swizz on main production. And got rid of Dame Grease. shyt had bangers yes. It was a really good album yes. I remember everything about the day I got it. But I don't feel like it was a classic. And u have the nerve to be saying what u saying to me and then turn around and say Illmatic ain't a classic. It's ridiculous bruh. Lol. And no. I'm not getting dragged into another Illmatic argument cause there's nothing for me to argue about.

Like i said we can feel how we feel but what album did what?
and we both know the answer.
illmatic flopped And then there was X flew off shelves and had mega hits.
Dame grease aint shyt btw

 

[mr.africa]

no

 

[spliz]

Like i said we can feel how we feel but what album did what?
and we both know the answer.
illmatic flopped And then there was X flew off shelves and had mega hits.
Dame grease aint shyt btw

Yea yea yea. U can count the album sales all u want. I'm not into all that shyt. Leave that for the casuals. In hip hop circles. Instant classic. Can't give me one legend that feels opposite. And I know quite a few personally. Even the GOAT Pac feels that way.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

fukk a hit. Dame Grease is the production that got people to love X in he first place. Swizz had ONE song on IDAHIH. And it wasn't the best song by far. Dame Grease gave X that moody shyt. Gave him his vibe.

Lol,no dame grease joints could have took him where RR anthem did.
His beats never were all that. Swizz backdrops and X's greatness blew up RR,not that nikka

 

[mobbinfms]

A large opinion on Nas is that he has only 1 classic and that's illmatic and that's fine.. can't remember hearing a song played from those albums anywhere

Are you saying nas has 4 classic albums?

This is where being young and not understanding context gets you in trouble. There is not a large opinion that Nas only has one classic album. That opinion is only held by super duper hip hop purists. Those people will tell you that X has zero classic albums due to the production shift.
In reality, IWW was held in high regard in real time outside of the contingent of purists. It's undoubtedly a classic.

I would give him three albums. The first two and Stillmatic. If you want to count Lost tapes then that's classic too.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

fukk a hit. Dame Grease is the production that got people to love X in he first place. Swizz had ONE song on IDAHIH. And it wasn't the best song by far. Dame Grease gave X that moody shyt. Gave him his vibe.

Can't give up your masters and whatever else to a major then say fukk a hit. That's what this game is about

 

[Ineedmoney504]

Nah it's case to be made honestly. Dmx has one classic. And arguable one. I would put every nas album over any other X song.

Illmatic>idhh>iww>stillmatic>flesh of my flesh

Every other nas album is better than any X album.

 

[mobbinfms]

think that speaks more to how people view Nas music more than anything.

Nas earned that reputation with his music though.

 

[mobbinfms]

It's dark and hell is hot

Flesh of my flesh blood of my blood (which got released 8 months after its dark)

And then there was X

>>>>>

If you say so.
Flesh was such a disappointing album.

 

[spliz]

Can't give up your masters and whatever else to a major then say fukk a hit. That's what this game is about

Son. I'm talking about the MUSIC my nikka. As a fan we don't spend their money. U being a PAC fan like me should understand this. Any die hard X fan knows IDAHIH is his best album MUSICALLY no question. And that's Dame Grease.

 

[spliz]

This is where being young and not understanding context gets you in trouble. There is not a large opinion that Nas only has one classic album. That opinion is only held by super duper hip hop purists. Those people will tell you that X has zero classic albums due to the production shift.
In reality, IWW was held in high regard in real time outside of the contingent of purists. It's undoubtedly a classic.

I would give him three albums. The first two and Stillmatic. If you want to count Lost tapes then that's classic too.

This is all facts.

 

[Xtz23]

Cut this shyt out BTW,swizz made most the big hits ,not that nikka

Dame grease and p killer made dmxs best beats. Swizz just made the hits and even those some of em you'd be surprised he didn't produce. Swizzs best dmx work was on flesh of my flesh that's where he produced more then just hits other then that swizz beatz is good but his shyts so repititive and most times different beats sound almost exactly the same as other beats. shyt is disgusting

 

[Guru]

This is where being young and not understanding context gets you in trouble. There is not a large opinion that Nas only has one classic album. That opinion is only held by super duper hip hop purists. Those people will tell you that X has zero classic albums due to the production shift.
In reality, IWW was held in high regard in real time outside of the contingent of purists. It's undoubtedly a classic.

I would give him three albums. The first two and Stillmatic. If you want to count Lost tapes then that's classic too.

Sounds like typical ageism BS to me. I go outside, I move around, listen to lots of music & talk with lots of people. DMX is a more familiar artist to folks who don't even like hip hop music and he's just as much as a recluse as Nas is.

C'mon son people do not discuss IWW & stillmatic in the same regard as they do illmatic...illmatic is the booths favorite album for a reason... and maybe a production shift is what nas needed in order for more people to enjoy his music... X seemed raw, fun, honest as opposed to Nas who just took himself too serious

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

DMX isn't a better rapper, his impact was just as great, if not greater...but hasn't given more quality material than Nas

Even on his worst album Nas has songs that are better than DMX's best songs