Childish Gambino - This is America (Official Video)

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No. You can't really divorce the symbolism from the visual. Art is a concept from the title, visuals, colors, etc. People will bring their own viewpoints but concepts are defended by how well the entire picture holds together against those critiques.
That's what you are doing. The visual is literally a black guy murduring other black people, while doing happy black dances with happy black kids dancing along with him.

I understand the reference to real life violent events, but taking those events into consideration, with the visuals attached to it, CG is seemingly making a statement/accusation on black peoples roll in committing or contributing to the violence, while never making any reference to white people or the vileness of the America they created off the backs of black folks.


I didn't mean our reaction as black people. I mean Americans. All of us. Latino, black, white, Asian. Entertainment is dancing, movies, tv. We are watching him as the violence happens elsewhere. The next school shooting isn't going to stop Star Wars IX from making 200 million if it happens on the same weekend. The violence will be "pushed to the side."

Saturday Night Live didn't happen the weekend after 9/11. The same can't be said for Ferguson, Charleston, or any other act of violence like them cause we rely on those distractions.
In the video it's not "Americans" dancing. It's black folks. In the song he specifically says "Black man"
 

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That's what you are doing. The visual is literally a black guy murduring other black people, while doing happy black dances with happy black kids dancing along with him.

I understand the reference to real life violent events, but taking those events into consideration, with the visuals attached to it, CG is seemingly making a statement/accusation on black peoples roll in committing or contributing to the violence, while never making any reference to white people or the vileness of the America they created off the backs of black folks.

No. I'm taking the whole picture instead of just what I see in front of me.

You are literally contradicting yourself. Either you understand the reference to lynching and Charleston (white people) or you don't. You can't have it both ways.

Symbolism means you don't have to put something literally there. Art is full of symbols that are as much about what you as what you don't.

This painting is racist a fuccck but there's no obvious racist imagery. There's no white person in it.

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That's how symbols gets twisted and turned into something it's not. An ancient Indian symbol gets perverted into a Nazi symbol cause it's divorced from it's meaning. Or you have white nationalist trying to act like a Confederate flag is a symbol of pride. Divorcing it from the fact is waived over battlefields fighting to maintain a system of oppression.


That's not to say, art can't be badly constructed and allow for bad interpretations cause the artist didn't think through their concept.




In the video it's not "Americans" dancing. It's black folks. In the song he specifically says "Black man"
Again. Symbolism doesn't have to point to one thing. Hustling "get money" black man doesn't stop the violence. The dude, CG, dancing is now running for his life at the end of the video. He didn't escape the violence.
 

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Can't even say I'm shocked to see the amount of overstanding I'm seeing in this thread.

I accepted this immediately as a satire on black people media representation and cultural glorification. It's not meant to be some philosophical narratives for hotteps... Just my opinion tho

Song bangs, video is dope, can't wait for the album :salute:
 

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You have to watch that video and the Kanye place sketch. In my opinion he's just saying that we are focusing too much on the distractions like social media and celebs opinions that we are not noticing what's actually happening to this country
 

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You have to watch that video and the Kanye place sketch. In my opinion he's just saying that we are focusing too much on the distractions like social media and celebs opinions that we are not noticing what's actually happening to this country

This is America.

We worship celebrities. Hello Mr President.
 
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Could the ending of the video represent a resistance or a revolution?

His character in the video represented a living form of "America". No matter what he did, he was allowed to do it but in the end he's being chased by the people going crazy after the actions that he caused.

Like the first half is how we are reacting towards America and the second half is what we should be doing

or i'm just reaching lol
 

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Could the ending of the video represent a resistance or a revolution?

His character in the video represented a living form of "America". No matter what he did, he was allowed to do it but in the end he's being chased by the people going crazy after the actions that he caused.

Like the first half is how we are reacting towards America and the second half is what we should be doing

or i'm just reaching lol

He stopped tap dancing...

Once he stopped entertaining they were on his ass
 

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No. I'm taking the whole picture instead of just what I see in front of me.

You are literally contradicting yourself. Either you understand the reference to lynching and Charleston (white people) or you don't. You can't have it both ways.

Symbolism means you don't have to put something literally there. Art is full of symbols that are as much about what you as what you don't.

This painting is racist a fuccck but there's no obvious racist imagery. There's no white person in it.

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That's how symbols gets twisted and turned into something it's not. An ancient Indian symbol gets perverted into a Nazi symbol cause it's divorced from it's meaning. Or you have white nationalist trying to act like a Confederate flag is a symbol of pride. Divorcing it from the fact is waived over battlefields fighting to maintain a system of oppression.


That's not to say, art can't be badly constructed and allow for bad interpretations cause the artist didn't think through their concept.





Again. Symbolism doesn't have to point to one thing. Hustling "get money" black man doesn't stop the violence. The dude, CG, dancing is now running for his life at the end of the video. He didn't escape the violence.
The symbols he decided to use were purposely black. Can't ignore the symbolism he chose or the lyrics he decided to use. As you said it's a package.

Y'all wanna add a bunch of shyt to try to make it deep or to fit what you want it to be.
 
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