Chip Kelly is going to revolutionize this sport...
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vick is not supposed to take these hits. its just that this nicca refuses to slide or get out of bounds.
Tempo aint shyt when you defense that could stop it. Ask Stanford. They will be more teams in the NFL that will adjust to it. Hell the Skins caught on in second half.
That shyt isn't revolutionary, ol in the moment ass nikkas.
What offense is the shyt when a defense can stop it? If the defense is better than the offense of course it won't work just like any other offense. But tempo does have distinct advantages.
1) Not allowing defensive substitutions- This the man thing especially in the nfl because there are so many good athletes and specialized players that defenses like to sub based on down and distance and against certain offensive formations. Now they can't do that, so a pass rush specialist or dime corner can't get into the game because there is no time to substitute. Basically you control and dictate when the other team can substitute.
2) Defenses have a hard time disguising there intentions. Since the snap is so quick they don't have time move around a lot and confuse the qb. They have to hurry up(no pun intended) and be in the spot where they need to be once the play starts or wined up out of position.
3) A lot of times the snap is so fast that defenses have to go to more vanilla coverages based on the time to get plays in and reason 1) above where specialty players can't get onto the field to do more exotic coverages.
4) It should in theory where down the defense first. In the second half should be where the offense really shines because the opponent defense will have to contend with so many plays and generally the defense gets gassed first.
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This shyt isn't college. They're not going to be blowing out teams by halftime where you can rest players in the second half. He's going to be like Schiano and wear his team down by the middle of the season.
He's basically putting his team through a 24 game season with as many plays he plans to run.
He's basically putting his team through a 24 game season with as many plays he plans to run.
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You're right cause you watched the damn games. Nikkas hating
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Vick even said that when half time came he felt like he played a full game. NFL is more of a grind it out league. Its all fun and games now but their opponents down have to worry about that pace all season the Eagles do and by weeks 13 - 17 we will see who will be
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Hope the refs don't let them nikkas fake injuries this week again. They fukked our mojo, and them refs helped the skins too 
There also not going to be gifted a four turnover advantage in every game either that would aid in them getting that 19point lead
Basically the d-coordinators of the NFL are going to look at tape of the Oregon games against Stanford/Bama/Auburn and learn that the one thing that fukks up any offense, but especially read option based offense is penetration. I'd tell my d-linemen/LBs to pin their ears back and hit everyone at the mesh point. It's in their advantage if you sit back and hesitate/try to figure out who has the ball. You can't leave that many unblocked d-lineman and not pay a price for it.
If they do get Jackson on your fantasy team because he is going to have big year
This sounds like some espn talk breh. You don't think Washington watched film of oregan this off season.
Its easy to say just get penetration when your an sec defense and you can just line up put Fairley at 3 technique and just whip everybody in front of him. If you come full blast at the mesh point you your going to make it either
1) Easier to read the DE/LB for the give
2) Assuming your pin your ears back you better have both safeties coming up in run support so you have enough numbers point of attack. Then you make Vick a better passer because he passing with D Jackson against cover 4 or cover 0 all game long. single Coverage without safety help.
Against LSU and Auburn they just got whipped up front. If you got lineman that can't be blocked by olineman in front of them you can run any offense you won't be able to run the football. Thats what happened in those games.
Against Stanford as others said they dominated TOP and had strong run game kept the ball out of their but played a solid game.
But wasn't it the year before where Oregon hung up like 30 some and 53 the year before on Stanford?
There is no easy way to stop the offense. Defensive coordinators in college haven't figured it out in 10 years it will be tough for the NFL to catch up in one off-season. Ask NFL defensive legend Monte Kiffin how fared trying to defend it
To contain it you have
A) Just vastly superior D Lineman(which could be said against any offense)
B) Bring both safety's down and be able to play man lock down coverage on the outside without safety help. In the NFL good luck with that.
C) You can play some other games like scrap exchanges but once the offense sees that you can just move the read to the LB and counter it.
What will likely happen is safety concerns warranted or not (imo sliding will fix this) will come up with qb's and teams will start to shy away from the read game. Example Redskins Game 1 ran very little if any read game on Monday night. Also, in the San Fran Game they were not really reading either they were predetermining the reads(or kaep just lost his mind and forget how to properly read players after doing for about 4 years in a row). That's why you saw Clay Matthews smacking Kaep in the back field full steam. Those were obvious give read(actually easier then normal) but they weren't actually reading him just hoping that he didn't play discipline in his assignment.
If they do get Jackson on your fantasy team because he is going to have big year
This sounds like some espn talk breh. You don't think Washington watched film of oregan this off season.
Its easy to say just get penetration when your an sec defense and you can just line up put Fairley at 3 technique and just whip everybody in front of him. If you come full blast at the mesh point you your going to make it either
1) Easier to read the DE/LB for the give
2) Assuming your pin your ears back you better have both safeties coming up in run support so you have enough numbers point of attack. Then you make Vick a better passer because he passing with D Jackson against cover 4 or cover 0 all game long. single Coverage without safety help.
Against LSU and Auburn they just got whipped up front. If you got lineman that can't be blocked by olineman in front of them you run any offense none to man and you won't be able to run. Thats what happened in those games.
Against Stanford as others said they dominated TOP and had strong run game kept the ball out of their but played a solid game.
But wasn't it the year before where Oregon hung up like 30 some and 53 the year before on Stanford?
There is know easy way to stop the offense. Defensive coordinators in college haven't figured it out in 10 years it will be tough for the NFL to catch up in one off-season. Ask NFL defensive legend Monte Kiffin how fared trying to defend it
To contain it you have
A) Just vastly superior D Lineman(which could be said against any offense)
B) Bring both safety's down and be able to play man lock down coverage on the outside without safety help. In the NFL good luck with that.
C) You can play some other games like scrap exchanges but once the offense sees that you can just move the read to the LB and counter it.
What will likely happen is safety concerns warranted or not (imo sliding will fix this) will come up with qb's and teams will start to shy away from the read game. Example Redskins Game 1 ran very little if any read game on Monday night. Also, in the San Fran Game they were not really reading either they were predetermining the reads(or kaep just lost his mind and forget how to properly read players after doing for about 4 years in a row). That's why you saw Clay Matthews smacking Kaep in the back field full steam. Those were obvious give read(actually easier then normal) but they weren't actually reading him just hoping that he didn't play discipline in his assignment.
It's almost hilarious that you mention tape watching as a fallback for d-coordinators understanding an offense, but if you really knew what actually happens you'd know that tape watching only allows you to establish playcalling patterns at best and at least it can give you nothing especially when trying to apply an offense ran by a college team vs it's application with vastly different personnel on the pro level. If you watched the Redskins game you would've seen that it wasn't exhaustion that slowed the Eagles down in the 2nd half. They finally started to diagnose Chip's offense in real time. Regardless of what analysts will tell you there's a finite number of formations and plays from different situations. That formation with two tackles at the numbers?? It's been done before. I saw it way back in high school. It's just a variation on the swinging gate.
Next, you do realize there's almost always 2 open d-linemen on the read option by design, right? The idea of penetration isn't about talent it's about aggression. It's funny that you mentioned Matthews because the Niners rushed for less than 100 yards against GB so that philosophy takes away the advantage of running the read option. You say it's easier for the offense, but the defense's aggression dictates that move and it resulted in a shytty rushing day for the team. The times that they truly did give the option to Kaep it got shut down.
Lastly, bringing up a man that's stuck to the predictable ass tampa 2 and got torched by every offense, not just read option, over the last few years as a college DC is the last person you should use as an example of NFL futility. The NFL defenses have an advantage over college d-coordinators in that there's less of a difference in talent. There's no real athletic holes player wise in the NFL defenses. There's no such thing as Louisiana Monroe to keep your team fresh. There's not a roster of 115 players to rotate throughout practice. It's not Marcus Mariota against some random walk on. The LBs are just as fast as the QBs from 0-20 yards and so are the d-lineman. The NFL d-coordinators don't have to worry about their players going to class. It is their profession. Give the men a year and they'll be treated Chip's offense just like everyone else's. No blowouts. No 70 point games. Just a lot of plays and beat up players.
What offense is the shyt when a defense can stop it? If the defense is better than the offense of course it won't work just like any other offense. But tempo does have distinct advantages.
1) Not allowing defensive substitutions- This the man thing especially in the nfl because there are so many good athletes and specialized players that defenses like to sub based on down and distance and against certain offensive formations. Now they can't do that, so a pass rush specialist or dime corner can't get into the game because there is no time to substitute. Basically you control and dictate when the other team can substitute.
2) Defenses have a hard time disguising there intentions. Since the snap is so quick they don't have time move around a lot and confuse the qb. They have to hurry up(no pun intended) and be in the spot where they need to be once the play starts or wined up out of position.
3) A lot of times the snap is so fast that defenses have to go to more vanilla coverages based on the time to get plays in and reason 1) above where specialty players can't get onto the field to do more exotic coverages.
4) It should in theory where down the defense first. In the second half should be where the offense really shines because the opponent defense will have to contend with so many plays and generally the defense gets gassed first.
That shyt still isn't revolutionary breh. All no-huddle offense have that advantage you stated, and L&HH brought up a great point that the Skins offense didn't their defense no favors by committing turnovers. This overanalysis on how innovated Chip Kelly offense is reactionary as fukk.
Ya'll can argue all you want, all I know is the eagles are gonna be fun to watch this year.
Yeah buddy.
Yeah buddy.