Drake's "Jungle" is a prime example of what makes him a great artist

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i dunno OP this one doesnt do it for me just yet.

Drake probably my single fav artist right now. And I am fan of his music. his on mic persona. He seems like a legit fukkboi to me in person. I tihink because Im competitive as fukk and I think Id clash with this nikka cuz Id feel like I was better than the nikka but he keep winning cuz he keep getting oppurtunities and shyt. lol anyway...

I can understand how ppl dont fukk with his singing voice b. you gotta be able to understand that too. His singing has improved signifcantly since he started. He still sucks dikk live. But the production on his tracks be so dope that his voice comes out with unique electronic drakey tone that we are so accumstomed to now. But even I enjoy this voice (except for on Hold on where I thought his voice sounded unusually weak on there, song still grew on me though) you have to be able to recognize that his technical singing ability is by no means world class, or even top tier. But its charasmatic, which brings me to my second point...

I really don't think you can completely seperate talent and persona. You make it sound like it's possible to enjoy music even if you dont fukk with the artist at all. I would have to disagree with you on this point. Drake has a very divisive persona. Just as you are talking about how much you can relate to his words and you can feel the emotion in his music, I find it incredibly difficult to "feel" or "relate" to something that I interpret as disingenuous or inauthentic. To a certain degree elite or world class talent can supercede this, but sometimes no amount of talent can overcome this dissonance. When people say they just cant fukk with Drake on any level I completely understand. Even though he is well spoken, intelligent and charasmatic, he also comes across as broody, disingenuous and standoffish. To me, his talent can overcome the latter traits, sometimes. But this may not be the case for all.

I like some not all of Drizzy's RnB stuff. Shot for me is actually one of my favorite all time Drake songs because it holds a special place in my heart for a time I was going through in my life. I also IMMEDIATELY found it sonically appealing and lyrically relatable.

Jungle does not do this for me. I've been bumping this tape all-day, every day (that and Sean Don) and this song is a skipper for me. Becaue I'm a stan I'll give it some time and maybe it will grow on me, but initially I wasn't drawn to it. Sonically I thought it was cool but I felt like I'd heard it before and done better. Lyrically, honestly, I can't help but think that Drake is writing this about some dumb ass dirty stripper he flys out from Houston or some shyt. It's probably elitist of me, but when I think that this shyt is about Johnny Blaze or Maliah or even fukking Rihanna shyt just seems fake and scust to me. Save for Rihanna these women that this nikka croon about really be the scum of the earth thots. So when I hear him writing some of these simp lyrics about them, I can't engage in voluntary self-delusion that he might have shared a genuine connection with someone of substance.

So yeah, I dont fukk with this joint, yet. Maybe I will later. But this joint still a skipper for me. Dope ass sample thought and the original artist seems dope.
You fail COMPLETELY when you keep trying to connect this shyt to what you read in blogs.

I don't even know how you can seriously do that.

I can absolutely disconnect the art from the artist's personal life.

I can't listen to blog. I listen to music.

Then you all try to make me sound like i'm too emotionally invested....:stopitslime:
 

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You fail COMPLETELY when you keep trying to connect this shyt to what you read in blogs.

I don't even know how you can seriously do that.

I can absolutely disconnect the art from the artist's personal life.

I can't listen to blog. I listen to music.

Then you all try to make me sound like i'm too emotionally invested....:stopitslime:

Nah bruh. I know I wrote a novel but obviously aint read shyt about what I wrote. :francis:

I dont really read blogs like that. I'm in med school and Im typing this shyt from my iphone in lecture bored as fukk. :pachaha:

I try to read pitchfork sometimes but they be on that fukk shyt. :ohlawd:

shyt I wrote was straight stream of consciousness. :ufdup:
 

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Marvins room?
if you've ever loved a woman.
You don't go your separate ways and then call them drunk because they've moved on and are happy just to confuse them.

That's not love. That's acting like a little boy.
Whether you like that song or not and I don't you have to admit that some guys do actually do that. Its real life.
 

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I haven't listened to his new tape and have absolutely no interest whatsoever in doing so. However, with the heading the OP gave I thought I might as well check this shyt out and give it a fair shot.

Honestly, it's horrible. This guy cannot sing, or whatever the hell that is he doing. This track represents why I can't stand this moist fakkit. He does not sound good.

And LOL at coming to the conclusion if you don't fukk with this, you have no experience of true love, you tryna be alpha male, no soul yada yada. Na, it just sound wack to some of us.

To connect with me on an emotional level, you gotta have soul. I gotta feel it. I don't get that from Drake, at all.

I recently saw D'Angelo in concert, with my wife. Now that is soul, that is power
 

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Whether you like that song or not and I don't you have to admit that some guys do actually do that. Its real life.

I actually hated Marvin's Room when I first heard it. Like most of Drizzy's catalouge it's managed to grow on me years later. But at any rate, since when does saying something that may have some basis reality equate to good music? Lol.

To this day, I really only like Marivin's Room in the context of Take Care. I, and I realize this is absolutely off the norm, think Marvin's room is a weak single. I also think drunk dialing your X is fukkboi shyt. And Drizzy most certainly captured that fukkboi feeling, because, well, Drizzy, prior to world wide acclaim, was a fukkboi on several levels.
 

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I'm sorry, I try and try to understand why people like this mixtape (or any of Drake's recent music) and I just can't for the life of me. I just want a niqqa to spit creative, witty shyt. Don't sing unless you are an above average singer. Just like I hate when Chris Brown tries to rap. I want to here above average rappers rap. I am still hopeful that he will bring the fire/passion/spitting he did early in his career on his next album. :yeshrug:
 

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I haven't listened to his new tape and have absolutely no interest whatsoever in doing so. However, with the heading the OP gave I thought I might as well check this shyt out and give it a fair shot.

Honestly, it's horrible. This guy cannot sing, or whatever the hell that is he doing. This track represents why I can't stand this moist fakkit. He does not sound good.

And LOL at coming to the conclusion if you don't fukk with this, you have no experience of true love, you tryna be alpha male, no soul yada yada. Na, it just sound wack to some of us.

To connect with me on an emotional level, you gotta have soul. I gotta feel it. I don't get that from Drake, at all.

I recently saw D'Angelo in concert, with my wife. Now that is soul, that is power
Damn breh, you honestly summed up my exact feelings on this mixtape better than I could. And I actually like dude when he decides to concentrate and spit. Kudos!! :salute:
 

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Damn breh, you honestly summed up my exact feelings on this mixtape better than I could. And I actually like dude when he decides to concentrate and spit. Kudos!! :salute:


anyway, I actually checked the catalouge of dude drizzy sampled and kid is DOPE. Gabriel garzon montana. If anything, drizzy put me on a new artist. yall nikkas should check his shyt out. i actually think the original version is way better and FAR more emotional than drizzy's. I also think the tempo is more approriate.



i wonder what @Napoleon thinks
 

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anyway, I actually checked the catalouge of dude drizzy sampled and kid is DOPE. Gabriel garzon montana. If anything, drizzy put me on a new artist. yall nikkas should check his shyt out. i actually think the original version is way better and FAR more emotional than drizzy's. I also think the tempo is more approriate.



i wonder what @Napoleon thinks

I've known about this shyt for a year. Which is how old the project is and he has better songs on the mixtape.

Regardless, Drake's song is way more emotional lyrically.
 
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