Draymond Green vs The World...Day 1: Kyrie Irving

Who Is The Better NBA Player?


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Illuminatos

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chef klay dray can't get a bucket when the picks/screens ain't coming off right
when the ball ain't moving right or they team ain't moving right you can't count on none of them
none of them are the type you can just put the ball in they hand and say get me some buckets

monta was cashing checks off his ability to go 1v1 to 1v5 and get numbers on a individual level

:mjgrin:understand now you fukking weenie

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You nikkas sure love your iso scorers that don't win shyt. :mjgrin:
 

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One scores at a high level + clutch intangibles

The other rebounds, defends, passes at a high level + hustle and leadership intangibles

Neither are #1 options or should be the best player on a championship team, but I'm taking the guy who does more things. Draymond.
 

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Do it by position:hhh:
Because u can pick anyone ..kyrie is good:ehh:
Ill pick some out of thin air.
Give Isaiah Thomas from the celtics..dude is on the rise..:feedme:
 

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Dealing with facts> dealing with hypotheticals

I don't think the cavs had a season with over 33 wins with kyrie and dudes are using that as an argument for kyrie :bryan:

Kyrie led Cavs with a combined win/loss record 78 - 152 before Bron came in 2014:mjlol:
 

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Put draymond on the nets and they probably win 5 more games but put kyrie on the nets they win 10-15 games more easily.
 

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Why does Green have to be the lead facilitator to have an impact as a facilitator? The more facilitators your team has the better. And your stupid enough to suggest that Green's defense would somehow be hindered on other teams. You really got the WOAT arguments. :mjlol:

Nothing about Green would be nullified on most teams you moron. Warriors lead the league in assists and that's because their big men is a great passer, not solely because their big man is their main facilitator. He could help create plays and openings on every team and help find the right guy offensively. That isn't something that disappears if moved onto another team.

Nor would his defense disappear because he has different teammates. Again that makes literally zero sense. Warriors aren't great from top to bottom defensively, Zaza is not a stud defensively and Curry is as much of a liability on that end as most point guards are. He would still make teams great defensively except they might actually have another proper big on the team to help him(like Bogut used to).
I didn't say they were good defensively top to bottom (they are from top to bottom better than most, you aren't the #1 defensive squad for 2 or 3 years like they are without that, but I'll let that breathe) they are however extremely versatile. Draymond not having to worry about mismatches off of switches 90℅ of the time allows him to do a lot more and certainly simplifies his decision making. That assistance is taken away on almost any other team period.
 
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