Federal government rules that dress-wearing freak must be allowed access to girls' locker room

[Matt504]

again research

what your trying to do here doesnt connect

A lot of unintended harm happens when people assume a Y chromosome makes a person a boy or a man and the lack of a Y chromosome makes a person a girl or a woman. For example, one physician educator on our Medical Advisory Board had the challenging experience of trying to calm a 23-year-old patient who had just been told by a resident that she was “really a man” because the resident had diagnosed the patient as having a Y chromosome and complete androgen insensitivity syndrome (CAIS).

It is true that in typical male development, the SRY gene on the tip of the Y chromosome helps to send the embryo down the masculine pathway. But more than the SRY is needed for sex determination and differentiation; for example, women with CAIS have the SRY gene but lack androgen receptors. In terms of hormone effects on their bodies (including their brains), women with CAIS have had much less “masculinization” than the average 46,XX woman because their cells do not respond to androgens.

Moreover, the SRY gene can be translocated onto an X chromosome (so that a 46,XX person may develop along a typical masculine pathway), and there are dozens of genes on chromosomes other than the X and the Y that contribute to sexual differentiation. And beyond the genes, a person’s sex development can be significantly influenced by environmental factors (including the maternal uterine environment in which the fetus developed).

So it is simply incorrect to think that you can tell a person’s sex just looking at whether he or she has a Y chromosome.

Does having a Y chromosome make someone a man? | Intersex Society of North America

 

[Taharqa]

That's actually not what I did, that's the conclusion you and others have erroneously reached.

I'm comparing reactions of people in this thread to reactions of white people when Black people were allowed to go to white schools.

Transgender dudes can literally go back to being a guy and be good. We didn't have that option... Its not even fair for you to even compare the two.

 

[Matt504]

Transgender dudes can literally go back to being a guy and be good. We didn't have that option... Its not even fair for you to even compare the two.

It's unfair for me to compare the reactions of people in this thread to reactions of white people when Black people were allowed to go to white schools?

 

[Leave My Name Out]

the more yu women sit back and let these fags think they're equal to you, the worse this tranny shyt will get.
they cannot bare children, they are not you. speak the fukk up and set clear boundaries between yu and these sick fukks.
these kids will be growing up seeing no difference between some drag queen and a woman. put an end to it and put them in their place.

The realest I've heard on this topic. Never thought about how women's silence or acceptance impacts their agenda.

 

[Arris]

Does having a Y chromosome make someone a man? | Intersex Society of North America

What's the difference between being transgender or transsexual and having an intersex condition?

Many people confuse transgender and transsexual people with people with intersex conditions because they see two groups of people who would like to choose their own gender identity and sometimes those choices require hormonal treatments and/or surgery. These are similarities. It’s also true, albeit rare, that some people who have intersex conditions also decide to change genders at some point in their life, so some people with intersex conditions might also identify themselves as transgender or transsexual.

In spite of these similarities, these two groups should not be and cannot be thought of as one. The truth is that the vast majority of people with intersex conditions identify as male or female rather than transgender or transsexual. Thus, where all people who identify as transgender or transsexual experience problems with their gender identity, only a small portion of intersex people experience these problems.

What's the difference between being transgender or transsexual and having an intersex condition? | Intersex Society of North America

 

[Taharqa]

Does having a Y chromosome make someone a man? | Intersex Society of North America

From your link:
When you assign a child a gender as boy or girl, what you’re doing is labeling them a boy or girl. That’s it. You don’t need a surgeon for that.

But how do you pick a child’s gender if she or he is intersex?

The child is assigned a gender as boy or girl after tests (hormonal, genetic, radiological) have been done and the parents have consulted with the doctors on which gender the child is more likely to feel as she or he grows up.

You don't get to assign your gender. How can' you not understand that is mind boggling

 

[alpo]

 

[QuavoFlow]

The realest I've heard on this topic. Never thought about how women's silence or acceptance impacts their agenda.

problem is they aren't either, well the majority of them. it's not making any sense to me. they're being disrespected and mocked right in their face, and they still dont see it.

 

[Taharqa]

It's unfair for me to compare the reactions of people in this thread to reactions of white people when Black people were allowed to go to white schools?

Whites reaction was about black people going to school

thecoli's reaction is about a guy dressing up as a woman and being able to go into a womans bathroom. I wouldn't be comfortable with that either. There was already a story on a transgender dude peeping on woman.

black struggles and trans "struggles" are to different topics and should never be compared.

 

[Matt504]

From your link:
When you assign a child a gender as boy or girl, what you’re doing is labeling them a boy or girl. That’s it. You don’t need a surgeon for that.

But how do you pick a child’s gender if she or he is intersex?

The child is assigned a gender as boy or girl after tests (hormonal, genetic, radiological) have been done and the parents have consulted with the doctors on which gender the child is more likely to feel as she or he grows up.

You don't get to assign your gender. How can' you not understand that is mind boggling

Why should it matter which gender the child is more likely to feel, shouldn't it just be based on genitalia like you're suggesting?

 

[the cac mamba]

Has he had a sex change or is on a hormone treatment? Cause if not he's just a cross dresser.

lets just say hes gonna be the only one in this locker room whos pulling a cock out

 

[Taharqa]

Why should it matter which gender the child is more likely to feel, shouldn't it just be based on genitalia like you're suggesting?

If a guy has a dikk and he "feels" inside that hes a woman, hes got some mental problems going on. You can look at someones genitalia and tell if they're a boy or girl. You don't need tests. That's what I was pointing out.

You really are a champion for transexuals, I hope you do the same for black people.

 

[Arris]

Why should it matter which gender the child is more likely to feel, shouldn't it just be based on genitalia like you're suggesting?

What's the difference between being transgender or transsexual and having an intersex condition?

Many people confuse transgender and transsexual people with people with intersex conditions because they see two groups of people who would like to choose their own gender identity and sometimes those choices require hormonal treatments and/or surgery. These are similarities. It’s also true, albeit rare, that some people who have intersex conditions also decide to change genders at some point in their life, so some people with intersex conditions might also identify themselves as transgender or transsexual.

In spite of these similarities, these two groups should not be and cannot be thought of as one. The truth is that the vast majority of people with intersex conditions identify as male or female rather than transgender or transsexual. Thus, where all people who identify as transgender or transsexual experience problems with their gender identity, only a small portion of intersex people experience these problems.

What's the difference between being transgender or transsexual and having an intersex condition? | Intersex Society of North America

 

[Unknown Poster]

What do you think white people were saying when Black people were allowed to go to white schools?

I'm fully convinced you're trolling at this point.

 

[Matt504]

Whites reaction was about black people going to school

thecoli's reaction is about a guy dressing up as a woman and being able to go into a womans bathroom. I wouldn't be comfortable with that either. There was already a story on a transgender dude peeping on woman.

black struggles and trans "struggles" are to different topics and should never be compared.

So what it there was a story of a transgendered person peeping on women, that means that individual person was a creep, any person of any sex has the potential to peep on someone using the bathroom.

You and others keep pretending like transgender women will put cis-gendered women at higher risk for assault or danger while supporting that with nothing but anecdotal evidence.