Fitzmagic or Fitztragic?The Best Chance To Win. The Official 2016 New York Jets Season Thread

[NYK Loyalist]

We've seen geno throw 3 interceptions in one quarter,and we've seen fitz throw 3 interceptions on 3 straight series to end the playoff chances.

What good is a "leader" if he's been a loser his entire career? What exactly has his "leadership" done for any team over his entire career?

There's a reason he's been a loser,a reason we got him cents on the dollar and a reason not 1 other team wanted him in the offseason.

You can't say what would happen with Petty,we've never seen him play.

We have seen fitz fail again,and again,and again,and again,and again but you need what 5 more seasons of him being a loser to know for sure he isn't going to lead the team anywhere?

I never said Fitz is the answer long term hopefully this is the last year he's with us but I don't see the point of putting one of the other guys out there to win 4-6 games and waste what could be one of the last years of prime Marshall and Forte have left. If any of those other guys play the other night we are 0-2 and the season is over

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

I never said Fitz is the answer long term hopefully this is the last year he's with us but I don't see the point of putting one of the other guys out there to win 4-6 games and waste what could be one of the last years of prime Marshall and Forte have left. If any of those other guys play the other night we are 0-2 and the season is over

Fitz gets us to 8 wins and we miss the playoffs,learn nothing at qb and have a worse draft position.

 

[Trip]

Fitz gets us to 8 wins and we miss the playoffs,learn nothing at qb and have a worse draft position.

Over two games the biggest issue the Jets have had is the pass defense. It's hard to make the playoffs giving up those types of plays. And this is only Fitz's 4th year entering the season as a starter. Those Buffalo teams he started for were awful.

 

[godkiller]

You are entitled to your opinion but we are not winning with Geno, Petty or Hackenburg. Fitz is a leader and has chemistry with the guys and that means a lot when it comes to your QB. Geno got punched in the face by one of his teammates - you think he has the locker rooms respect? I've seen him throw 3 picks in one quarter and have us with a 1-7 record a couple of years ago. Petty and Hackenburg might have potential but I'm not ready to hand the team over to either of them yet.

And in regards to Sanchez we picked him 5th in the draft and at that time he was the best option. Geno and Hackenburg were reaches in the 2nd round and Petty probably was in the 4th also. None of them were expected to be sure shot starters in the league.

Geno won 8 games his rookie season with an outstanding defense and no weapons. Fitz was gifted a similarly talented defense yet only eked out 2 more wins alongside playmaker receivers and an easier schedule. Furthermore Geno has shown he can compete against good defenses with weapons whereas Fitz hasn't. So all available recent evidence attends to the notion that Geno can win games and olay better than Fitz.

But all that aside, starting Geno or Petty is still the strategic option because Fitz can't carry us to the playoffs. As such we do more good for the club in developing QB talent and perhaps getting a high pick, than playing a scrub like Fitz and earning a low one.

Oh, and your "leadership matters" argument is easily disproved by both Fitz's poor performances against good defenses and his lackluster career overall. If Fitz's leadership--as you glean it-- mattered, he would be a Pro Bowl QB not a below average QB.

 

[Trip]

Geno won 8 games his rookie season witg a good defense and no weapons. Fitz was gifted a similarly talentwd defense yet onlh eked out 2 more wins alongside playmaker receivers and an easier schedule. Moreover Geno has shown he can compete against good defenses with weapons whereas Fitz hasn't. So all available recent evidence attends to the notion that Geno can win games and olay better than Fitz.

But all that aside, starting Geno or Petty is still the strategic option because Fitz can't carry us to the playoffs, and we do more good for the club in developing QB talent and perhaps getting a high pick through doing so, than playing a scrub like Fitz.

The Jets arent paying Fitz to carry them to the playoffs. The big money is locked into the secondary which is underperforming. This team wasn't built for Fitzpatrick to sling the ball over the lot- it was built to play defense and play field position....and no one should expect him to be Aaron Rodgers. He's one of the lowest paid starters in football. If anything, the passing offense is way surpassing expectations...it's been the defense and specials which have underperformed.

 

[tremonthustler1]

The Jets arent paying Fitz to carry them to the playoffs. The big money is locked into the secondary which is underperforming. This team wasn't built for Fitzpatrick to sling the ball over the lot- it was built to play defense and play field position....and no one should expect him to be Aaron Rodgers. He's one of the lowest paid starters in football. If anything, the passing offense is way surpassing expectations...it's been the defense and specials which have underperformed.

You must really want this playoff berth

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

The Jets arent paying Fitz to carry them to the playoffs. The big money is locked into the secondary which is underperforming. This team wasn't built for Fitzpatrick to sling the ball over the lot- it was built to play defense and play field position....and no one should expect him to be Aaron Rodgers. He's one of the lowest paid starters in football. If anything, the passing offense is way surpassing expectations...it's been the defense and specials which have underperformed.

Fitz is the 3rd highest salary on the team.

 

[Trip]

Fitz is the 3rd highest salary on the team.

that's making my point. He's cheap as hell for a starter.

 

[Trip]

You must really want this playoff berth

Cousin Yuri with another hot take

 

[godkiller]

The Jets arent paying Fitz to carry them to the playoffs. The big money is locked into the secondary which is underperforming. This team wasn't built for Fitzpatrick to sling the ball over the lot- it was built to play defense and play field position....and no one should expect him to be Aaron Rodgers. He's one of the lowest paid starters in football. If anything, the passing offense is way surpassing expectations...it's been the defense and specials which have underperformed.

As I explained in my previous post, If Fitz isn't taking us to the playoffs there's zero strategic reason to start him over Geno or Petty. Semantics over where money is invested are irrelevant inasmuch as the fact Fitz can't advance this club stands. As far as our QB dilemma is concerned, either we have a QB who can steward us to the playoffs or we dont and we should play whomever is best for the club inasmuch as achieving the playoff goal is concerned.

 

[Trip]

As I explained in my previous post, If Fitz isn't taking us to the playoffs there's zero strategic reason to start him over Geno or Petty. Semantics over where money is invested are irrelevant inasmuch as the fact Fitz can't advance this club stands. The consequent outcome in starting Fitz over our other QB in this scenario is worse for then club's health overall.

The strategic reason to start him is the club clearly feels neither other guy can/is ready to play.

 

[godkiller]

The strategic reason to start him is the club clearly feels neither other guy can/is ready to play.

And as I have explained ad nauseum, the club should still play the other guys because that's the best thing to do in terms of team health.

 

[Trip]

And as I have explained ad nauseum, the club should still play the other guys because that's the best thing to do in terms of team health.

If the team was young and cheap, I'd agree 10000 percent. The billboard went up, got the guy who was gutting the roster and lowering the cap fired and then Maccagnan won executive of the year by spending his money. The genie is out of the bottle...the offense is old. Once Decker, Marshall and Forte look washed there will be a new QB. Fitz is playing right now because he gives this roster the best chance to win. If we wanted the young QB we should have stuck with Idzik. But understandably someone paying college tuition..I mean a PSL- didnt want to watch the clogged toilet offense 8 Sundays out of the year.

 

[beanz]

This roster isn't built for developing talent. This roster is built for winning now. This team won 10 games last year which 99 percent of the time, gets u in the playoffs. They have pretty much the same team with an upgrade at rb.

 

[Trip]

This roster isn't built for developing talent. This roster is built for winning now. This team won 10 games last year which 99 percent of the time, gets u in the playoffs. They have pretty much the same team with an upgrade at rb.

Some of the younger receivers actually look promising. Enunwa looks like he's going to be good(thanks Idzik!) and Marshall's already playing...Anderson made the team as did Peak. But they're not going to play over Decker and Marshall, either.