Fitzmagic or Fitztragic?The Best Chance To Win. The Official 2016 New York Jets Season Thread

[NYC Rebel]

And they should not be using sheldon at LB.

It's pretty evident that by the fourth quarter our d line is gassed from being g on the field all game.

They should be using sheldon/mo/Leonard in rotation but the coaching staff is being greedy and wants them all on the field at the same time all game.

If they used a rotation they'd be fresh all game and more effective.

We looked our best week 1 without sheldon. And we also looked better our first 4 weeks last season when sheldon was suspended. It's a pattern. It's not a knock on sheldon but again it's this coaching staff.

We looked our best vs. an immobile statue and a shyt line.

Dont' act as if Sheldon is holding line play back now.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

We looked our best vs. an immobile statue and a shyt line.

Dont' act as if Sheldon is holding line play back now.

You realize we faced Russ who had a knee Injury behind a shyt line? And Alex smith behind a shyt line? And now the steelers behind a shyt line. And the Bengals don't have a shyt line at all not sure where you are getting that from

Every week all the talk is how the Jets d line should feast against a beat up line and every week we get 0 pressure.

And again, I stated that's not a knock on a sheldon,it's the coaching staff. So I'm not acting as if anything. The results speak for themself. They have sheldon playing out of position and are over working the other d line players. Don't know why you bolded that sentence while ignoring the very next ones

 

[NYC Rebel]

You realize we faced Russ who had a knee Injury behind a shyt line? And Alex smith behind a shyt line? And now the steelers behind a shyt line. And the Bengals don't have a shyt line at all not sure where you are getting that from

Every week all the talk is how the Jets d line should feast against a beat up line and every week we get 0 pressure.

And again, I stated that's not a knock on a sheldon,it's the coaching staff. So I'm not acting as if anything. The results speak for themself. They have sheldon playing out of position and are over working the other d line players. Don't know why you bolded that sentence while ignoring the very next ones

Again...you clearly implied that his appearance has hurt the team since week 1. Second, read the article I posted.

The Bengals are a vertical team," Richardson said. "They hold the ball a lot longer, so you get a lot more opportunities. That's the reason why. Guys are getting the ball out quick now. They noticed [the Bengals game], so I'm pretty sure offensive coordinators aren't trying to give up seven sacks a game.
They've been hitting us quick. They've been successful doing that. We need to start playing with more of a cushion, a lead, and force teams to try to force the ball down the field."​

The Bengals are a deep shot throwing team, so their QB stands in the pocket longer. The Jets since then have been quick passed and picked apart by teams knowing our linebackers and safeties can't cover. Nothing a D-line can do when teams are averaging 2.3 seconds per pass attempt against us.

It's not about our D-Line being out of place due to Sheldon.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Again...you clearly implied that his appearance has hurt the team since week 1. Second, read the article I posted.

The Bengals are a vertical team," Richardson said. "They hold the ball a lot longer, so you get a lot more opportunities. That's the reason why. Guys are getting the ball out quick now. They noticed [the Bengals game], so I'm pretty sure offensive coordinators aren't trying to give up seven sacks a game.
They've been hitting us quick. They've been successful doing that. We need to start playing with more of a cushion, a lead, and force teams to try to force the ball down the field."​

The Bengals are a deep shot throwing team, so their QB stands in the pocket longer. The Jets since then have been quick passed and picked apart by teams knowing our linebackers and safeties can't cover. Nothing a D-line can do when teams are averaging 2.3 seconds per pass attempt against us.

It's not about our D-Line being out of place due to Sheldon.

And again,put your cape away for sheldon. I clearly and repeatedly put what I said on the coaches not sheldon.

Sheldon is playing out of position and is ineffective because of the coaches. Don't know how many times I have to write because of the coaches before you register it inside your head.

But let's just ignore the fact we saw the exact same thing happen last season while sheldon was suspended. We looked better without him. And AGAIN, I put that on coaching,not him.

You can ignore that and keep caping for him even though nobody is attacking him as a player because apparently you just want to argue about nothing.

 

[NYC Rebel]

And again,put your cape away for sheldon. I clearly and repeatedly put what I said on the coaches not sheldon.

Sheldon is playing out of position and is ineffective because of the coaches. Don't know how many times I have to write because of the coaches before you register it inside your head.

But let's just ignore the fact we saw the exact same thing happen last season while sheldon was suspended. We looked better without him. And AGAIN, I put that on coaching,not him.

You can ignore that and keep caping for him even though nobody is attacking him as a player because apparently you just want to argue about nothing.

This is not a cape for sheldon. This is football talk that you're unable to breakdown, so your response is to call it caping.

Sheldon playing out of position doesn't chance:

1. Ball getting out of qb hands near an nfl best 2.3 seconds per pass vs our defense
2. Being short passed to death.

Argue football, not caping. Caping is a shyt point. I full expect the Jets D line to look spry vs the Cards who are a deep shot team.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

This is not a cape for sheldon. This is football talk that you're unable to breakdown, so your response is to call it caping.

Sheldon playing out of position doesn't chance:

1. Ball getting out of qb hands near an nfl best 2.3 seconds per pass vs our defense
2. Being short passed to death.

Argue football, not caping. Caping is a shyt point. I full expect the Jets D line to look spry vs the Cards who are a deep shot team.

OK breh

First you start, crying about me blaming sheldon because you can't comprehend plain English.

I blame coaching,you start crying about me blaming sheldon.

You're wrong.


Then you say Bengals have a shyt line,which is categorically false and shows you don't know as much as you like to pretend to know. Which by the way ignores the fact that every line we have faced has been worse since then.


Then called out again,you fall back on an article somebody else wrote and say somebody else is unable to breakdown football


Take your own advice. Argue football,not made up shyt in your own head. Show me where I blamed sheldon for how hes being used or put your nonsense away.

 

[NYC Rebel]

OK breh

First you start, crying about me blaming sheldon because you can't comprehend plain English.

I blame coaching,you start crying about me blaming sheldon.

You're wrong.


Then you say Bengals have a shyt line,which is categorically false and shows you don't know as much as you like to pretend to know. Which by the way ignores the fact that every line we have faced has been worse since then.


Then called out again,you fall back on an article somebody else wrote and say somebody else is unable to breakdown football


Take your own advice. Argue football,not made up shyt in your own head. Show me where I blamed sheldon for how hes being used or put your nonsense away.

You argued coaching (sheldon out of place) as a result of us not playing as well as we did thr first game.

Thats also putting it on Sheldon. The Bengals line is ass. We got off because there a deep shot team and Andy has to hold the ball longer
You then brought up Russ and his kneee, which I still countered because his knee doesn't have shyt to do with him getting the ball out of his hands quickly because our LBS and safeties can't cover.

Yout point on coaching/sheldon is wack. Thus is about having shytty skill position players at LB and safety. Has nothing to do with Sheldon being out of place. Funny you bring up Russ when sheldon got 5 pressures that game, the most on the team....but could we cover graham????

I talk football, not caping. Our play has zero to do with Sheldon, more to do with an old ass problem. Harris on coverage....EH in coverage. Our safeties in coverage.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

You argued coaching (sheldon out of place) as a result of us not playing as well as we did thr first game.

Thats also putting it on Sheldon. The Bengals line is ass. We got off because there a deep shot team and Andy has to hold the ball longer
You then brought up Russ and his kneee, which I still countered because his knee doesn't have shyt to do with him getting the ball out of his hands quickly because our LBS and safeties can't cover.

Yout point on coaching/sheldon is wack. Thus is about having shytty skill position players at LB and safety. Has nothing to do with Sheldon being out of place. Funny you bring up Russ when sheldon got 5 pressures that game, the most on the team....but could we cover graham????

I talk football, not caping. Our play has zero to do with Sheldon, more to do with an old ass problem. Harris on coverage....EH in coverage. Our safeties in coverage.

YOU didn't counter anything.

You bolded a sentence to pick an argument ignoring every sentence around it. You then made false statements and fell back on some bodies else's word.

I'm so impressed . Thanks for the football knowledge of somebody else.

 

[NYC Rebel]

YOU didn't counter anything.

You bolded a sentence to pick an argument ignoring every sentence around it. You then made false statements and fell back on some bodies else's word.

I'm so impressed . Thanks for the football knowledge of somebody else.

Ok...

I don't care about who is impressed or what have you. Bottomline is, teams are getting the ball out faster against us more than any team. You tell me how a great d line gets around that. I'm all ears. You didn't bring that into the equation when bringing up the Bengals game, the lone deep threat team we've played all seaaon. You then bring up Russ knee as if he didn't peck us to death getting the ball out his hands quickly. I don't get where your point has sturdiness

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Problem with the lack of sacks is clearly the coaching...

Bowles scheme is absolute garbage and all you needed to do was watch the KC game to know that...

Up against a QB who completes 1 pass over 10 yards per 20 attempts and this guy's treating him like Tom Brady...

We were in cover 2 zone most of that game and got killed by 5 yard dumps to the RB/TE because Bowles left our shyt LBrs on an island to cover them...

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Ok...

I don't care about who is impressed or what have you. Bottomline is, teams are getting the ball out faster against us more than any team. You didn't bring that into the equation when bringing up the Bengals game, the lone deep threat team we've played all seaaon. You then bring up Russ knee as if he didn't peck us to death getting the ball out his hands quickly. I don't get where your point has sturdiness

You haven't brought a single thing to the equation other than being wrong and then regurgitating somebody else's words.

Just stop.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Problem with the lack of sacks is clearly the coaching...

Bowles scheme is absolute garbage and all you needed to do was watch the KC game to know that...

Up against a QB who completes 1 pass over 10 yards per 20 attempts and this guy's treating him like Tom Brady...

We were in cover 2 zone most of that game and got killed by 5 yard dumps to the RB/TE because Bowles left our shyt LBrs on an island to cover them...

Stop blaming sheldon

Football acumen




Nah you're right. Like I said,it's on the coaching. We've seen no adjustments. Bowles statement that it doesn't matter who the opponent is rings true in their lack of preparation in games.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Problem with the lack of sacks is clearly the coaching...

Bowles scheme is absolute garbage and all you needed to do was watch the KC game to know that...

Up against a QB who completes 1 pass over 10 yards per 20 attempts and this guy's treating him like Tom Brady...

We were in cover 2 zone most of that game and got killed by 5 yard dumps to the RB/TE because Bowles left our shyt LBrs on an island to cover them...

Y'all argue coaching, I'll argue lacked personnel.

How many years do we have to see our shytty LBS in coverage? I'm sitting at games seeing teams looking for mismatches pre snap. I saw the Hawks isolate Harris pre snap and knew who russ was going to before the snap of the ball. Same when they isolated graham on Marcus Williams. have folks at the game saying "how did you know!!" shyt isn't rocket science. We have crappy personnel beyond our front four.

 

[NYC Rebel]

You haven't brought a single thing to the equation other than being wrong and then regurgitating somebody else's words.

Just stop.

Deny the 2.3 seconds to get the ball out of their hands. Did you? I added that to my point. How does a d line make uph for that. Tell me. My only conclusion is that you need better personnel in pass coverage at. Lb and safety. What is yours?

 

[Trip]

I don't think it's coaching. Bowles is playing 4-3 because Mauldin and Jenkins are slow and he wants Leonard mo and Sheldon on the field together