Hillary emails Reveal NATO Killed Gaddafi to Stop Gold Backed Libyan Currency

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@Mansa Musa

Do you think a benevolent dictatorship is feasible?

A la Singapore or pre-democratic South Korea?

Fact is most great nations had an authoritarian regime which could implement projects without any hindrances at the time of their rise. Then when they attained a certain level of development politics became more inclusive.

The partisanship of democracies (especially in chaotic African countries) might be an obstacle to development.

Exactly!

 

[David_TheMan]

So. .. aside from mobilizing at a local level and facilitating cooperative economics among our people . .. and holding our own, respective delegates accountable and (maybe) voting for the lesser of two evils on a local, state and national front. .. what do we do about the national picture? if Bernie is the lesser of two evils. .. but can't beat Trump, where do we stand? talk with me. ..

Me personally, I don't think tribalism or balkenizing is the answer, that is what they want. They want us (people) to be scared of each other and looking to those in power for security, wealth, and etc.
Best bet is simply to cooperate with those you want to and respect/treat your fellow man the way you would want to be treated.

Man there is no lesser of two evils. Just evil.
There is nothing but evil and they have no means of doing anything of improving YOUR life.
By your I mean everyone who lives here, black, white, hispanic, native, asian, and everything else.
They care for their cabal at the top and nothing more.

We have to get out of the mindset of thinking democratic/republic/electoral politics is a mean of accomplishing anything.
A change of mind has to occur, not a new person holding the gun (which is all politics in the state is).

IMHO

 

[Fenian]

pretty sure everyone already knew this but evidence is good.

Americans will still vote for her though.

 

[Jimi Swagger]

I'm just an African who actually cares about the continent and building democratic institutions. You can hotep for all the Arabs you want.

By the way, Gadaffi only became a pseudo- Pan Africanist when he was rejected by Arabs for being too crazy.

He was going to get Africa and most importantly the world, off the USD/fiat as trade. Gold backed currency would put "developing" nations (Latin America, Asia, Africa) at an political and commercial advantage as the resources are found in those countries. Would have removed that first-move advantage that Western (White) pieces hold on the chess board had by controlling currency and trade.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

How do you know he would have been a president for life? Are you telling me that he should have ignored all those agents who were being used to destroy his vision for Ghana and Africa. Nkrumah is the only president who successfully unified all of Ghana. He didnt even have a single personal house in Ghana yet you are here talking about corruption. Remember this was a country less than 6 years old that had serious ambitions. Given his vision and the direction he was taking Ghana i would have been ok with him being president for a decade or more. Everybody and their mother thought they could run things, but we now know it aint so.
We were already in the RIGHT direction. I can understand if you had these views back then, but how can you still hold on to such views when you have the benefit of hindsight?
The only president who has been close to Nkrumah's legacy is Kuffour. After his 8 years see what the current idiots running my country has sent it to. Now we are back under IMF when Kuffour took us out of their grips. What is the value in a 4 year election when it only wastes resources and halts development.

In 1964, Nkrumah took the title President for Life. Look it up.

 

[UserNameless]

Me personally, I don't think tribalism or balkenizing is the answer, that is what they want. They want us (people) to be scared of each other and looking to those in power for security, wealth, and etc.
Best bet is simply to cooperate with those you want to and respect/treat your fellow man the way you would want to be treated.

Man there is no lesser of two evils. Just evil.
There is nothing but evil and they have no means of doing anything of improving YOUR life.
By your I mean everyone who lives here, black, white, hispanic, native, asian, and everything else.
They care for their cabal at the top and nothing more.

We have to get out of the mindset of thinking democratic/republic/electoral politics is a mean of accomplishing anything.
A change of mind has to occur, not a new person holding the gun (which is all politics in the state is).

IMHO

no doubt.. . but what if trump wins. .. because Bernie is the nom and can't galvanize support... will that negate grass roots efforts?


thread is lit, btw.

 

[SonnyEMC]

In 1964, Nkrumah took the title President for Life. Look it up.

What is this corruption you speak of?

 

[KravenMorehead™]

What??? Nooooooooo....

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

@Mansa Musa

Do you think a benevolent dictatorship is feasible?

A la Singapore or pre-democratic South Korea?

Fact is most great nations had an authoritarian regime which could implement projects without any hindrances at the time of their rise. Then when they attained a certain level of development politics became more inclusive.

The partisanship of democracies (especially in chaotic African countries) might be an obstacle to development.

I think 'benevolent' dictatorships are intolerable in the African continent.

No dictator in Africa can exist without relying on clan, ethnic or religious ties to elites/patrons to keep them in power. If your philosopher king is Hausa but you're Igbo. Good luck. If your philosopher king wants to base the constitution on sharia but you're Christian. Good luck.

If you really want to run a shoe-export business, raise up your community and make money but your philosopher king is a socialist. Good luck.

Homoegenous East Asian States like South Korea don't really apply. Singapore is a democracy. Lee Kwan Yew was fortunate that his opposition was communist rabble and that he actually did good shyt. He still had to face electoral scrutiny. He still had to bargain with the unions and not shoot them. He couldn't be a dictator in a multi-racial city-state like Singapore without causing mass communal violence

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

google search Nkrumah and Corruption and Ghanaians already been bashing him
The fall of Nkrumah and the Corruption He Supervised.

 

[David_TheMan]

no doubt.. . but what if trump wins. .. because Bernie is the nom and can't galvanize support... will that negate grass roots efforts?


thread is lit, btw.

Doesn't matter who wins an election, presidents don't decide shyt, they are simply a figure head for the system.
You ever noticed that since FDR it doesn't matter which party is in office, which party controls the congress, the same shyt gets done?
The act of voting, is a façade. Its to get the public the illusion that the system works, that they are important, that even if they lose they should support this, because "soceity" has chosen this.
Its a twisted mental game, that keeps people peaceful and tranqil so they ignore the facts that who they vote for doesn't matter.

Kennedy tried to buck the system, they killed his ass.

If you think grass roots are going to change the system, that is about as crazy as thinking you can join the mob, work your way up, and then turn it legit.

 

[MalikReloaded]

Man we knew this years ago. How you in power for 40 odd years and then the second he starts talking about creating an African currency, all of sudden he's a world threat that had to be dealt with swiftly. Where was that urgency at 10-15-20 years ago?

 

[David_TheMan]

I think 'benevolent' dictatorships are intolerable in the African continent.

No dictator in Africa can exist without relying on clan, ethnic or religious ties to elites/patrons to keep them in power. If your philosopher king is Hausa but you're Igbo. Good luck. If your philosopher king wants to base the constitution on sharia but you're Christian. Good luck.

If you really want to run a shoe-export business, raise up your community and make money but your philosopher king is a socialist. Good luck.

Homoegenous East Asian States like South Korea don't really apply. Singapore is a democracy. Lee Kwan Yew was fortunate that his opposition was communist rabble and that he actually did good shyt. He still had to face electoral scrutiny. He still had to bargain with the unions and not shoot them. He couldn't be a dictator in a multi-racial city-state like Singapore without causing mass communal violence

You could add that S. Korea wouldn't even exist if not for outside interference and massive military aide and financial backing from the west.
Same with Pol Pot, general suharto, and etc.

 

[UserNameless]

Doesn't matter who wins an election, presidents don't decide shyt, they are simply a figure head for the system.
You ever noticed that since FDR it doesn't matter which party is in office, which party controls the congress, the same shyt gets done?
The act of voting, is a façade. Its to get the public the illusion that the system works, that they are important, that even if they lose they should support this, because "soceity" has chosen this.
Its a twisted mental game, that keeps people peaceful and tranqil so they ignore the facts that who they vote for doesn't matter.

Kennedy tried to buck the system, they killed his ass.

If you think grass roots are going to change the system, that is about as crazy as thinking you can join the mob, work your way up, and then turn it legit.

it can't be a sole endeavor. .. it stems from the people. .. it stems from grass roots. .. so you're saying everybody just "do them" and let the shyt shake out?

 

[FluffyCorleone]

Damn...

And people who claimed this were called crazy "conspiracy theorist."

"The worst thing to call someone is crazy. Its dismissive " - Dave Chappelle

Yeah now all of the hipsters are in saying, "Yea I knew that!", "I thought this was common knowledge?!"