you just described what it takes to be a successful business person in america. "if my competitors were drowning, i'd stick a hose in their mouths" - ray kroc founder of mcdonalds
How does Kellyanne Conway sleep at night?
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you just described what it takes to be a successful business person in america. "if my competitors were drowning, i'd stick a hose in their mouths" - ray kroc founder of mcdonalds
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
No, that's not what it takes necessarily, but it is true that a lot of successful businessmen are psychopaths.
"if my competitors were drowning, i'd stick a hose in their mouths" - ray kroc founder of mcdonalds
Which Professions Have the Most Psychopaths? The Fewest?
I don't think psychopaths, or people are just devoid of empathy in general make good presidents.
Trump is a unique frankenstein monster that is not only psychopathic and/or devoid of empathy, but also wildly erratic and impulsive, a textbook case of narcissistic personality disorder, unintelligent, incompetent and authoritarian.
bruh, none of this makes someone "evil" - the man is heartless, greedy, and selfish, but again - these are character traits of someone that becomes successful in business whether we like it or not. Bill Clinton and Obama both have innocent blood on their hands - that's not an emotional statement, there's documented evidence that they've ordered military strikes that killed civilians - Bill Clinton bombed an aspirin factory once on accident.
that's not evil? Trump has done worse than this? serious question.
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Yeah, Bill Clinton bombing the pharmaceutical factory was evil. Noam Chomsky and Sam Harris had a conversation about the morality of it with regard to intent. Clinton's goal was to bomb what was supposedly an Al Qaeda chemical weapons factory in retaliation for the embassy bombing. But the intel was bad and the action showed a callous disregard for innocent civilians and like 10,000 died as a result.
Bill Clinton and Obama both have innocent blood on their hands - that's not an emotional statement, there's documented evidence that they've ordered military strikes that killed civilians - Bill Clinton bombed an aspirin factory once on accident.
that's not evil? Trump has done worse than this? serious question.
We can only compare like situations though. Anybody helming the American hegemonic war machine will do some awful things in the name of "progress" and national interest. Trump has never had the most powerful military at his disposal. I don't know what he would do and I don't want to find out. He already said he would waterboard people, kill terrorists' families, fire on Iranian boats for taunting US soldiers, and aspires for autocratic power.
And he has a fetish for nuclear warfare that is very disturbing.
Trump's nuclear views are terrifying: Column
Trump's entire life has been fukking people over and scamming people to get richer and trying to destroy anybody he sees as an enemy. He hasn't done anything for anyone other than himself.
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Damn
that's a scary combination for anyone let alone a presidential nominee!
Foxmulder
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then just say that then...stop trying to sell me on your ideology with trigger words like "terrifying" and "evil"
donald trump is not evil, scary, or terrifying to me in any way, neither are his policies.
these are the same things people said about bush, but we're still here, in fact we elected a black man AFTER bush
what's funny is that people called karl rove evil and a satan worshiper too, all because his job was to beat democrats and he did his job well.
tone down the melodrama and theatrics is all i'm saying. if you don't like the muthafukka and you're not voting for him, then say that and keep it moving.
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
If Donald Trump isn't evil and scary to you, I don't know what to tell you, but I gave you sound reasons for that assessment.You just don't get the unique threat somebody with that type of personality in executive power is.
Sadly, we've been conditioned to hyperbole fatigue in politics for too long. Yeah people said Obama and Bush were like Hitler, but that was fukking stupid. Bush wasn't Hitler and Obama surely wasn't. People have pushed the bar so far in dishonest extreme pro wrestling promo-type personal attacks that we've grown desensitized to it.
Trump is an entirely different animal. Trump is the classic strongman/dictator personality type and he's mentally ill. That is NOT hyperbole or melodrama.
This is so obvious to me that I am flabbergasted at how people like you can sit here and act like he's favorably comparable or equivalent to a Clinton, Bush, or Obama. Like are you even watching the same person as me?
so if trump gets elected you're going to kill yourself? or at the very least think about it? serious question.
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
This bytch is caked up.
Trump's campaign manager cashes in
Trump's campaign manager cashes in
Donald Trump’s campaign manager Kellyanne Conway will emerge from the 2016 campaign as a winner, regardless of the result on Election Day, thanks to her unique relationships with a succession of overlapping committees and mega-donors.
As Conway’s profile has soared during the 2016 campaign, her small Washington-based polling firm has collected nearly $1.9 million and counting in fees from federally registered political campaign committees — more than twice as much as in any prior election, according to a POLITICO analysis of Federal Election Commission filings.
Yet her firm’s work for Trump’s presidential campaign and a supportive super PAC that had previously backed Ted Cruz’s rival campaign for the GOP nomination has raised eyebrows among Republicans who have worked with the veteran pollster.
They suggest that her firm’s lucrative 2016 portfolio undermines Trump’s anti-big-money messaging, while raising questions about the depth of Conway’s loyalty to Trump, not to mention his campaign’s efforts to adhere to complicated election rules prohibiting coordination between super PACs and campaigns.
Conway told POLITICO that her firm, which is called The Polling Company, has “separate staffs” that worked on the campaign and super PAC accounts, and that “we have a firewall” between them. Additionally, she said “I have never been inside the PAC firewall and have done no work for this PAC.”
She did, however, serve as president of the PAC under its previous incarnation as a pro-Cruz vehicle called Keep the Promise I during the Texas senator’s bitter primary battle against Trump, but she said she "resigned in writing from KTPI [the pro-Cruz super PAC] in June, having previously expressed my intention to not manage the newly forming PAC."
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By BEN SCHRECKINGER
While Conway, 49, has been a well-regarded player in GOP politics since the late 1980s, her work for Trump over the last few months has catapulted her into the national spotlight in a way experienced by only a tiny fraction of career political consultants.
Her journey to Trump’s inner circle was circuitous, but profitable.
It traced to some extent the path taken by the family of hedge fund tyc00n Bob Mercer, a longtime Conway ally who has emerged as among the leading financiers of the anti-establishment right.
The Polling Company in early 2015 was paid $65,000 by a super PAC that laid the groundwork for Ben Carson’s bid for the GOP presidential nomination, and the retired neurosurgeon's campaign would go on to pay $438,000 to a data firm owned by the Mercers.
After Conway’s firm stopped working for the Carson super PAC, The Polling Company began working for a trio of PACs supporting Cruz, one of which was funded by $13.5 million donated by Bob Mercer, according to FEC records.
Less than two months after Cruz dropped out of the race, essentially ceding the nomination to Trump, the Mercers and Conway switched their allegiances to the presumptive nominee.
In late June, the super PAC changed its name to Make America Number 1 and converted itself into a pro-Trump vehicle, installing veteran GOP operative David Bossie to run it. A few days later, on July 1, Conway joined Trump’s campaign as an adviser.
"There was no overlap for me, even though that would have been legally permitted," Conway said of her work for the PAC and the campaign.
But the PAC kept paying The Polling Company, listing payments of $81,000 on June 24 for political strategy consulting and $247,000 on August 23 for survey research, according to FEC filings. The filings do not make clear when the work was performed or for which iteration of the PAC.
Conway explained that it was Bossie's decision to hire the firm. "I do not know the details — states, methodology, survey instruments, results — because I cannot know them." On Friday, she said the firm “performed survey research and messaging work for this PAC in late June and early July.” But late Sunday night, she indicated that the work was restricted to "surveys in late June." Whatever the past work, she said “no further work is planned.”
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By ELI STOKOLS
In all, the PAC, during its pro-Cruz and pro-Trump incarnations, paid $952,000 to Conway’s firm. The firm also reaped another $198,000 from the two other pro-Cruz PACs, as well as $41,000 from a PAC affiliated with Citizens United, a group run by Bossie with financial support from the Mercers.
While Conway has known Trump for about a decade — they met when she lived in one of his buildings in Manhattan — multiple sources said she was elevated to become campaign manager in August at the encouragement of Bob Mercer’s daughter Bekah Mercer.
A GOP strategist who is familiar with Conway’s relationship with the Mercers said that Bekah Mercer, who runs the family’s political operation and has become an influential figure in Trump’s orbit, “leans heavily on Kellyanne Conway. She is the Mercers’ sounding board on their decision-making.”
Early last month the Trump campaign also hired Bossie as a deputy campaign manager to work under Conway, and Bekah Mercer took the reins of Make America Number 1.
The Trump campaign, meanwhile, in late August made its first payment to The Polling Firm — $128,500 for polling — according to the latest FEC filings, which cover through the end of August. The campaign figures to continue paying for Conway’s services through Election Day.
Neither Conway, the Trump campaign, nor Make America Number 1 would answer questions about which of the firm’s staff worked for the super PAC versus the campaign. A spokesman for the Mercers declined to comment.
Hogan Gidley, a spokesman for the super PAC, issued a statement saying “All laws have been followed in operating Make America Number 1 PAC. Furthermore, the PAC didn’t have any dealings with Mrs. Conway.”
But Republicans with knowledge of the firm question whether it had enough seasoned pollsters or strategists to handle two major presidential race accounts without overlap. The firm’s website lists only five staffers in addition to Conway.
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One of Conway’s top lieutenants at the firm, who is identified on the website as director of political services, spends considerable time at the Trump campaign’s headquarters in Manhattan’s Trump Tower, according to an operative who works with the campaign.
The GOP strategist who is familiar with Conway’s relationship with the Mercers said her firm’s work for the super PAC is a liability for Trump, even if it’s done in a way that adheres to the coordination ban. “The optics on that are terrible, when Trump says he hates super PACs and his campaign manager’s firm is getting paid by one,” said the strategist.
To be sure, even before Conway’s turn in the 2016 spotlight, her firm had done a healthy, if unspectacular, business with anti-establishment and socially conservative Republicans and tea party groups. FEC records show that her clients included Reps. Steve King (R-Iowa) and Tim Huelskamp (R-Kan.). Huelskamp recently lost his primary, while another former Conway client — the conservative firebrand Michele Bachmann — retired from congress in 2015.
Conway has also worked with the tea party group FreedomWorks, Newt Gingrich’s ill-fated 2012 presidential campaign and Trump’s running mate Mike Pence, while her firm’s website indicates that Conway has done corporate work for American Express, the Game Show Network, Ladies’ Home Journal, Lifetime Television, Major League Baseball, Martha Stewart and others.
But the GOP strategist who is familiar with Conway’s relationship with the Mercers argued that the pollster is more closely aligned with the Mercers than with Trump, or any given candidate or politician. The strategist cast the Mercers’ involvement with the Trump campaign and super PAC as “a strategic game for the Mercers to elevate their status after the election to make a bid for some sort of GOP supremacy.”
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The American
Defending America against cacs
You must be white.
But in case you're not, he supports stopn frisk and will appoint conservative SCJs. Has a long history of racism. So you're either a cac or dumb as fukk.
These ain't the same things said about Bush. W was shyt, but nowhere near as bad as trump. And WTF does electing Obama have to do with it.Brehs are just presenting facts, there is no hyperbole, if u don't like it, u can go back to TLR
JahFocus CS
Get It How You Get It
Dudes in here defending Bush and whitewashing his record now... all that, just to get in some shots at the Don 
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
I've been saying breh. Don is turning these "liberals" into RepublicansDudes in here defending Bush and whitewashing his record now... all that, just to get in some shots at the Don
JahFocus CS
Get It How You Get It
I've been saying breh. Don is turning these "liberals" into Republicans
And then on the other hand you've got clowns on here fronting like they're socialists and are that far ideologically from Trump and other Republicans. This, after they exposed themselves already by not supporting Sanders over Clinton
