In Masai We Trust: Denver Nuggets offseason thread.

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I'm not even that mad. Would've liked to have him back in the powder and gold, just wasn't meant to be. :manny:

Cons: we lose one of our most versatile players and our strongest perimeter defenders.

Pros: we don't have to pay 48 Ms over the next four years for a wing who shot 57% from the charity stripe and 32% beyond the arc. :scusthov:

We're fine, brehs. :whoa: More time for Gallo/Chandler at the 3 and lots of opportunity for Fournier, Green, and J-Ham at the 2.

Ignore these bytch nikkas who hate. :mjpls:

Y'all got cap space with no one to spend it on. nikkas ain't coming to Denver.
 

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There is one thing that makes me feel some kind of way :patrice:

Mainly, the coach and the culture, the environment. I feel like they have a good culture there, a lot of great guys, great locker room. The way they've got those guys playing with such confidence, that comes from the coach. The way those young guys were playing against us (in the playoffs), that's confidence.

What's wrong with our culture, environment, and locker room, you "can't beat em, mind as well join em" ass-nikka :pacspit:

Seriously, what's wrong with us? :to: How come nobody wants us, man? :sadcam:

I saw Klay Thompson running full speed down the court, caught the ball, took two steps and shot the 3. His feet wasn't even set. That comes from coaching. I want to play with that kind of confidence.

Iggy with the pull-up 3s in transition, that's a scary sight :huhldup:

Iggy at the free-throw line is a scary sight, too :demonic:
@Blackthoughts, you like the acquisition? :smugfavre:

Oh, and if we get that big-headed nikka Jack without getting rid of Miller :ohlawd::deadrose:
 
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There is one thing that makes me feel some kind of way :patrice:



What's wrong with our culture, environment, and locker room, you "can't beat em, mind as well join em" ass-nikka :pacspit:

Seriously, what's wrong with us? :to: How come nobody wants us, man? :sadcam:



Iggy with the pull-up 3s in transition, that's a scary sight :huhldup:

Iggy at the free-throw line is a scary sight, too :demonic:
@Blackthoughts, you like the acquisition? :smugfavre:

Oh, and if we get that big-headed nikka Jack without getting rid of Miller :ohlawd::deadrose:
Yeah I like the acquisition. I don't like the fact that we had to give up 2 picks to make it happen but we're now a top 3 team in the west on paper. We have a guy who can disrupt the best wings in the league defensively. Plus we'll have cap space next summer to sign another piece. It was a good move, the west is getting better, we had to improve our roster to keep up.
 
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:rudy: Like nikkas was clamoring to come to the Bay...ever :dwillhuh: Don't act like y'all been hot, nikka :pachaha:

Bet you don't want to see us in them offs with a healthy Gallo, tho :yayo:
nikkas wasn't clamoring to come to the Bay because we had shytty ownership. But now we have great ownership and a great GM and a coach players love to play for and we have something Denver will never have that NBA players love and that's great weather. At the end of the day we're in California in home of Google,Twitter,Yahoo,Instagram,Facebook,Apple and all that other technical shyt.

As far as not wanting to face Gallo in the playoffs........I'm sure Iggy can do a good job defending him :russ:
 

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nikkas wasn't clamoring to come to the Bay because we had shytty ownership. But now we have great ownership and a great GM and a coach players love to play for and we have something Denver will never have that NBA players love and that's great weather. At the end of the day we're in California in home of Google,Twitter,Yahoo,Instagram,Facebook,Apple and all that other technical shyt.

As far as not wanting to face Gallo in the playoffs........I'm sure Iggy can do a good job defending him :russ:

Put that coli cash up nikka...straight up :skip:

300+ days of sunshine in the Mile High :ohlawd:
 

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Put that coli cash up nikka...straight up :skip:

300+ days of sunshine in the Mile High :ohlawd:

So you think we can't beat y'all in the playoffs? nikka y'all might not even make the playoffs. So what you didn't have Gallo, we didn't have D-Lee who is much better. I wouldn't entertain this bet because there's no one on this board that believes Denver will be better than us. We're now officially a top 3 team in the West. Things be changing in the Bay Area. Western Conference teams that are in cities that snow will never compete for a championship in todays NBA. Remember that nikka.
 

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Yeah I like the acquisition. I don't like the fact that we had to give up 2 picks to make it happen but we're now a top 3 team in the west on paper. We have a guy who can disrupt the best wings in the league defensively. Plus we'll have cap space next summer to sign another piece. It was a good move, the west is getting better, we had to improve our roster to keep up.

Top 3? :childplease:

shyt is wide open. My objective (:wow:) list:

1. Clippers
2. OKC (with healthy Russell)
3. Spurs
4. Rockets
5. Nuggets :mjpls:
6. Warriors
7. Memphis
8. LWO :russ:
 

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So you think we can't beat y'all in the playoffs? nikka y'all might not even make the playoffs. So what you didn't have Gallo, we didn't have D-Lee who is much better. I wouldn't entertain this bet because there's no one on this board that believes Denver will be better than us. We're now officially a top 3 team in the West. Things be changing in the Bay Area. Western Conference teams that are in cities that snow will never compete for a championship in todays NBA. Remember that nikka.

:troll:

And be real :wtb: Gallo was and is way more important to our team's success, compared to Lee to GSW

edit: And you still on this weather shyt. bytches be in nothing but snowsuits ouchea, nikka...snowsuits. :shaq: Bikinis? :childplease: We off that. :patrice:
 

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Top 3? :childplease:

shyt is wide open. My objective (:wow:) list:

1. Clippers
2. OKC (with healthy Russell)
3. Spurs
4. Rockets
5. Nuggets :mjpls:
6. Warriors
7. Memphis
8. LWO :russ:
We were the 6th seed with Bogut missing 43 games and having 3 rookies in our rotation. All of those rookies should be better along with the subtraction of Biedrins and the addition of Iggy. I don't see a starting lineup in the west better than ours do you?
 

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And be real :wtb: Gallo was and is way more important to our team's success, compared to Lee to GSW

edit: And you still on this weather shyt. bytches be in nothing but snowsuits ouchea, nikka...snowsuits. :shaq: Bikinis? :childplease: We off that. :patrice:
David Lee led the league in double doubles. You won't find 1 nikka on this board that would say Gallo is better than D-Lee. As far as the weather shyt not being a factor tell me the biggest unrestricted free agent Denver has ever signed since you've been a fan :smugbiden:
 

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We were the 6th seed with Bogut missing 43 games and having 3 rookies in our rotation. All of those rookies should be better along with the subtraction of Biedrins and the addition of Iggy. I don't see a starting lineup in the west better than ours do you?

Y'all aight. :patrice: Not like I don't have y'all in my rankings. Got you above LWO so there's some level of respect. :usure: West is wide open, breh breh. We gon see.

David Lee led the league in double doubles. You won't find 1 nikka on this board that would say Gallo is better than D-Lee. As far as the weather shyt not being a factor tell me the biggest unrestricted free agent Denver has ever signed since you've been a fan :smugbiden:

You cut me. :wow: You cut me deep. :wow::wow:

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we're going to miss Iggy, though I'm more pissed we let him walk for nothing than anything else.

it's important to remember our two biggest flaws last season was 1. free throw shooting and 2. 3pt shooting -- and Iggy played a big part in that. we'll miss his defense but with Shaw (unlike his predecessor) actually implementing a defensive system, we should be able to survive his absence.

y'all bout to witness the rise of the French Revolution Evan Fournier. :blessed:

J-Ham Unchained. :blessed:
 

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Even though Dwight Howard didn't end up choosing Golden State, the Warriors still managed to steal many of Friday's headlines by making a pair of splashy moves, agreeing to send more than $24MM in salaries to the Jazz and reaching a long-term contract agreement with Andre Iguodala. With so many moving pieces involved in the Warriors' series of transactions, let's break down how the moves will affect the team's salary cap outlook.

Heading into July, the Warriors had $69,905,195 in guaranteed salary on their books for 2013/14, according to Storyteller's Contracts. Throw in a cap hold for first-round pick Nemanja Nedovic and non-guaranteed salaries for Dwayne Jones, Kent Bazemore, and Scott Machado, and that figure rises to a total of $73,445,481. We don't know for certain that all these figures are 100% accurate, but they're at least in the ballpark, and for our purposes, we'll assume they're bang-on.

Now, a good chunk of the team's salary will be offloaded in the deal with the Jazz. With Richard Jefferson ($11,046,000), Andris Biedrins ($9,000,000), and Brandon Rush ($4,000,000) heading to Utah, the Warriors will eliminate $24,046,000 in guaranteed salary from their books, with only Kevin Murphy's non-guaranteed salary of $788,872 coming back. The result? $45,859,195 in guaranteed contracts, with non-guaranteed salaries and Nedovic's cap hold bringing the total to $50,188,353.

The way the pair of deals with the Jazz and with Iguodala were inititally reported suggested that the Warriors had cleared the necessary room under the cap to sign Iguodala outright. That's not quite true yet, if we assume a '13/14 cap line of $58.5MM -- some or all of those non-guaranteed contracts would need to be waived if Iggy is going to receive a four-year deal in the neighborhood of $48MM. But that would be simple enough to do.

However, what if the Warriors don't intend to go under the cap at all? Using cap space to sign Iguodala would eliminate a ton of flexibility for Golden State. The team would have to renounce its rights to free agents Jarrett Jack and Carl Landry, making it extremely difficult to bring either player back. The Warriors would also lose access to their full $5.15MM mid-level exception, gaining instead the much more modest $2.65MM room exception assigned to under-the-cap teams.

On top of that, Golden State would have to renounce three significant traded player exceptions acquired in the deal with the Jazz, worth the equivalent of Jefferson's, Biedrins', and Rush's salaries. The Warriors also have a handful of smaller TPEs that would need to be renounced as well, but none of those are as potentially useful as the ones for Jefferson ($11.046MM) and Biedrins ($9MM) would be.

There's another way for the Warriors to add Iguodala without sacrificing all those exceptions and all that flexibility, but it would require the cooperation of the his old team, the Nuggets. Here's how it could work:

Once the July moratorium is lifted, Golden State would first finalize its trade with the Jazz. At that point, despite only having about $50MM in salaries on their books, the Warriors would still be considered an over-the-cap team because all of the their exceptions and cap holds would keep them over the presumed $58.5MM cap line.

After that, the next step would be bringing Iguodala into the fold. If the Warriors and Nuggets could work out a sign-and-trade agreement for the free agent swingman, it could potentially be beneficial for both teams. Denver likely wouldn't want to take back any salary for Iggy, but Golden State would have access to a newly-created $11,046,000 trade exception (for Jefferson).

Using that exception, the Warriors could acquire Iguodala via a sign-and-trade, giving him a starting salary of $11,146,000 (the amount of the TPE + $100K). Annual 4.5% raises on that amount would give Iguodala a four-year total of $47,593,420, which is in the ballpark of his reported $48MM agreement. This sort of transaction is how the Lakers were able to acquire Steve Nash last summer, using their Lamar Odom TPE rather than cap room.

From the Nuggets' perspective, accommodating a sign-and-trade with a conference rival that significantly helps that team beCome more flexible isn't necessarily good business. But if the Warriors were willing to include an asset or two (perhaps future draft considerations, cash, and/or the rights to Nedovic), Denver could add a couple pieces and create a trade exception of their own, worth Iguodala's new salary. That's better than getting nothing for a player the Warriors could sign outright anyway.

If the two teams were to work out such an agreement, the Warriors would still have trade exceptions worth $9MM (for Biedrins) and $4MM (for Rush). They also wouldn't necessarily have to renounce the rights to Jack and Landry, and they'd still have access to the full mid-level exception
. The club would be hard-capped for the season, having acquired a player via sign-and-trade, meaning team salary couldn't surpass the tax apron (approximately $75.6MM) at any point, but there'd be plenty of wiggle room to add talent before reaching that threshold.

Needless to say, such a scenario would make a lot more sense for the Warriors, which is probably why beat reporters like Marcus Thompson and Tim Kawakami are hearing that the team anticipates ending up with one or more trade exceptions. Using cap room to sign Iguodala would mean losing those TPEs, so a sign-and-trade with the Nuggets looks like the preferred scenario for Golden State, assuming Denver is willing to negotiate.
http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2013/07/...ap.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

don't worry @Blackthoughts, when Curry's paper mache ankles tap out, you could always call Derick Fisher. :youngsabo:
 
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