JAY Z SAYING ' WHAT YOU TRYING TO KICK KNOWLEDGE?' WAS A LOW POINT FOR HIP HOP

[KravenMorehead™]

That shyt been bothering me for 20 years lol

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

That shyt been bothering me for 20 years lol

breh he already parked his car at that point


sees dude in the drivethru.. pulls into a parking spot.. jacks dude and forces him to either drive to the chop shop, or get the fukk out and caine drives... then has one of the chop shop boys take him to his car


how do we know this?


he has the rims AND stacks of cash right after that scene.. so he sold them the car and kept the rims

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Kicked that shyt Jay needed to learn, though

 

[N*E*R*D]

Right. It's the most ironic thing about the entire situation that many rap fans are too dumb to see. Jay-Z's B Sides are some of the most intelligent rap songs ever. I.e. Allure, This Life Forever, Most Kings, Soon You'll Understand, his verse on Shiny Suit Theory, etc. Hov basically took intelligence/knowledge and clothed it in an ignorant shell that made listeners feel like they were listening to rap songs about bytches money and cars, but when you grow up and really listen you'll see how insightful he really was/is as an MC.

Nas is a legend but a lot of his post It Was Written work was forced ass "knowledge" diatribes that he tried to make into rap songs (the trash beats didn't help). He was always better when he was rapping about his block (Illmatic) or when he was on his mafioso shyt (It Was Written) but nobody wanted to hear Nas give us a lesson on Egypt. The shyt was mad forced. And all that pseudo intelligence Nas spit on his albums obviously never translated to success outside the music. If Nas is so smart and Jay-Z is just a shallow rapper than why is one way more successful and acquires way more capital than the one who is supposed to be the smart one?

And save the "because smart nikkas don't win in this world" argument because that doesn't even pertain to this situation

It's easier to package and sell ignorance than it is to sell consciousness. Jay and Nas had separate agendas. Jay was trying to be the 1st billionaire rapper. So his mindset was on making deals and getting big money. Nas never seemed like the type of dude that was pressed for the spotlight like that. Nas only doing commercials and shyt now because Kelis duped him for 18 years.

 

[3rdWorld]

Its a line that'll make the kkk proud..
Same as Dre and his 'no medallions dreadlocks or black fist'..always though Doc wrote that which is odd.

 

[Harry B]

No he said it as if Nas was a dumb smart nikka saying stupid shyt trying to kick knowledge.

 

[SunZoo]

@ nikkas not knowing it's a movie reference. shyt has less to do with disparaging "conscious rap" and more to do with calling him a hypocrite.

 

[RTF]

Right. It's the most ironic thing about the entire situation that many rap fans are too dumb to see. Jay-Z's B Sides are some of the most intelligent rap songs ever. I.e. Allure, This Life Forever, Most Kings, Soon You'll Understand, his verse on Shiny Suit Theory, etc. Hov basically took intelligence/knowledge and clothed it in an ignorant shell that made listeners feel like they were listening to rap songs about bytches money and cars, but when you grow up and really listen you'll see how insightful he really was/is as an MC.

Nas is a legend but a lot of his post It Was Written work was forced ass "knowledge" diatribes that he tried to make into rap songs (the trash beats didn't help). He was always better when he was rapping about his block (Illmatic) or when he was on his mafioso shyt (It Was Written) but nobody wanted to hear Nas give us a lesson on Egypt. The shyt was mad forced. And all that pseudo intelligence Nas spit on his albums obviously never translated to success outside the music. If Nas is so smart and Jay-Z is just a shallow rapper than why is one way more successful and acquires way more capital than the one who is supposed to be the smart one?

And save the "because smart nikkas don't win in this world" argument because that doesn't even pertain to this situation

This is a smart-dumb approach.

Plenty of shallow people are materially successful. Plenty of intelligent people have little capital. Obviously the same is true vice-versa but the point is smart doesn't equate to rich.

Making intelligent songs isn't kicking knowledge either.

 

[OG Talk]

I been peeped that and I was young as hell.. Jay tried to play that I got more bread and cooler than u card.. nikkas wanna blame the south for rap but low key jigga man influenced the shyt...

Every dope boy from the South came out with the "I'm not a rapper, I'm a hustler" motto soon after...



Jay helped kill lyrical NY Hip Hops influence...Then he didn't sign any spittas from his own city by design..

Genius when you think about it...Because the dirty little secret was that he WAS a emcee that cared about his craft and tried to rhyme like Common Sense...He just wanted to appear "above it all"...

The environment made it so you couldn't call guys like Master P wack..Because "numbers don't lie" and he was a "real hustler"...

It no doubt helped fuel the South's dominance and NY never recovered..

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Every dope boy from the South came out with the "I'm not a rapper, I'm a hustler" motto soon after...

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

Somebody already posted it, but I dont see why where the quote came from makes any difference here.

He was clearly trying to play Nas out, trying to infer "kicking knowledge" was some corny sh*t (you can hear the "fukk outta here" adlib right after he says it). It was a battle and he was pandering to the audience, aint nothing cool or masculine about being an intellectual.

And I saw Menace II Society in the THEATER, plus ordered it off First Run (lol, what yall know about First Run?). Its one of my favorite movies, mainly for nostalgia purposes.

 

[MJ Truth]

SMH @ kicking knowledge being a bad thing.

Another reason Hollow lost to Lux.

 

[Frida Giezman]

breh he already parked his car at that point


sees dude in the drivethru.. pulls into a parking spot.. jacks dude and forces him to either drive to the chop shop, or get the fukk out and caine drives... then has one of the chop shop boys take him to his car


how do we know this?


he has the rims AND stacks of cash right after that scene.. so he sold them the car and kept the rims

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Looking back


I bet Lyor was talking about Nas to Hov and he said that to him 'come on your better then Nas, look at him trying to kick knowledge'


How the fukk you tell a nikka something like that? Someone had HOV gassed. Agenda in full effect.


14 years later Hov drops a album with Kanye and starts getting critical of white Amerikkka

I just finished watching this movie again.

I think Jay was trying to shyt on nas for being gangsta one minute and a professor the next.

In the scene Caine jacked another dealer. That dude had rims, money, jewelry and a pager. Back then only dealers had pagers

Then when getting jacked, he suddenly turns into Martin Luther on some we supposed to be brothers




Jay was calling him out for all those illmatic and Escobar rhymes then switching it up to a pharaoh and kicking knowledge on I am

 

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