Millennials across the rich world are failing to vote

[YvrzTrvly]

How is this not childish, though?

I know a decent amount of Latino millenials who did exactly this - supported Bernie, weren't feeling Hillary, and thus stayed at home in November. Now, these same kids have family members, in some case parents, who are pressed because of the result. These same people are now protesting in the streets when all they had to do was hold their nose and vote.

It's completely selfish and comes from a place of privilege and / or ignorance to me. If you vote for your candidate and they lose in a primary, OK. Now nut up and choose or have someone choose for you. How does opting out in a general in any way rectify the situation? It's passive to the point of being putrid.

To make it worse, the very things a lot of these voters desire become less and less achievable the more power they cede to the other side through not voting. The gears of the system turn with or without your participation and you can either turn them or have them grind you.

I see your point of view but in response to what i was saying, this still does not alleviate the issue which is casting a defensive vote is not actually casting "your" vote.

The two party system perpetrates this and there is really no resolution until another group pops up...which we know is not happening any time soon

 

[dtownreppin214]

The left needs a figure that's the opposite of Trump

Who will be ruthless in the primaries

Just like Trump was last year against Jeb!

yooo this nikka adding an exclamation point at the end of his name might be the funniest and saddest decision in the history of politics.

 

[Crude Abolitionist]

where is he pro black people

fukkING THANK YOU!

That whole list aint shyt to me. Start talking about reparations and ending police gangs and I'm there.

 

[The_Sheff]

I see your point of view but in response to what i was saying, this still does not alleviate the issue which is casting a defensive vote is not actually casting "your" vote.

The two party system perpetrates this and there is really no resolution until the constitution of the US is changed...which we know is not happening ever

Fixed for proper perspective.

 

[wire28]

This is why any progressive movement is dead before it even gets off the ground. No party is going to be able to continuously put forth messiah candidates that energize people with a disposition against voting. Combined with a government designed for difficult and slow incremental change you can see why the party that has voters who look upon it as a duty would have a natural advantage even though the demographics of the country aren't in their favor.

For all the demonstrations taking place now, where will these people be this November and November 2018 when it's time to vote for a candidate that has had limited exposure and little money to advertise, someone with little flair or extraordinary charisma? They will be at home like they always are.

Wait to vote until you get the perfect candidate while your ideological opponents vote no matter what and continue to control your destiny, millennial brehs


Stay on Snapchat and the gram all day recording your protests until you are distracted by the next pop culture happening, millennial brehs

 

[ineedsleep212]

This is why any progressive movement is dead before it even gets off the ground. No party is going to be able to continuously put forth messiah candidates that energize people with a disposition against voting. Combined with a government designed for difficult and slow incremental change you can see why the party that has voters who look upon it as a duty would have a natural advantage even though the demographics of the country aren't in their favor.

For all the demonstrations taking place now, where will these people be this November and November 2018 when it's time to vote for a candidate that has had limited exposure and little money to advertise, someone with little flair or extraordinary charisma? They will be at home like they always are.

This is bullshyt mainly cuz folks showed up for Obama and Hillary was just a uniquely trash candidate on so many levels while making terrible political decisions. Let's not forget how razor thin the margin of victory in those states truly were. So it's not really a messiah candidate thing. You just can't be a weak Democrat (in making moves politically (the PR battle) and legislation) and expect folks to come out strongly for you.
One thing progressives need to do more is build a coalition or a 3rd party to make their intentions clear and create leverage since Dems want to feel entitled to votes.

 

[No1]

@Reality, I think this thread has misled a lot of you. I was speaking to overall millennial voting habits, but let's be clear, millennials voted at the same clip in the 2016 presidential election that they from 2008 to 2016. It's the midterms and other elections when they don't give a fukk. They did swallow their anger and vote for Hillary. The point was that a mothafukka like Trump who stands for everything they are against should've brought them out in record numbers.

So the people crying about us millennials right now voted at a lower clip in general elections when they were our age. It's really the midterms and everything else that has people shook (at least in the US--2014 = 20% turnout). Let's be clear, we voted for HRC despite not fukking with her:


[QUOTE]Overall, Trump won one-third of young voters, a greater number than pre-election polls suggested he would. Notably, 32 percent of these young Trump supporters were excited by the prospect of a Trump presidency while only 18 percent of young Clinton supporters reported being excited about their candidate.[/QUOTE]

Trump's support among young people was mostly white men without a college degree who bought into MAGA like their fathers did. Which brings us back to point 1: white people (especially white men) elected Trump and no one else. The fact that he closed the gap with millennials probably has a lot to do with the fact that many either (a) voted third party, (b) were purged from voter rolls, (c) thought HRC was going to win so they stayed home.

Looking beyond 2016, the millennial electorate is expected to impact how politics is conducted in a two-party system. In 2016, young adults were more likely to identify as liberals but were less likely to identify as Democrats. Similarly, while young Trump voters were characterized by their energetic support for the Republican candidate, the growth of young people identifying as Republican has remained static. In fact, only one-third of young adults hold a favorable view of the Republican Party.

 

[The_Sheff]

This is bullshyt mainly cuz folks showed up for Obama and Hillary was just a uniquely trash candidate on so many levels while making terrible political decisions. Let's not forget how razor thin the margin of victory in those states truly were. So it's not really a messiah candidate thing. You just can't be a weak Democrat (in making moves politically (the PR battle) and legislation) and expect folks to come out strongly for you.
One thing progressives need to do more is build a coalition or a 3rd party to make their intentions clear and create leverage since Dems want to feel entitled to votes.

They showed up for Bill and Obama, two of the most charismatic candidates the Democrats have ever put forth. They didn't vote for Gore or Kerry. You even said it yourself, you can't be a weak Democrat. But you sure as hell can be a weak Republican, that's the difference!

 

[wire28]

They showed up for Bill and Obama, two of the most charismatic candidates the Democrats have ever put forth. They didn't vote for Gore or Kerry. You even said it yourself, you can't be a weak Democrat. But you sure as hell can be a weak Republican, that's the difference!

id much rather live through a presidency of someone who is directly ideologically different than me than someone who is different on some issues but can help usher in the change i want to see ! wait, lady gaga has a new album out?!

-millenials

 

[ineedsleep212]

They showed up for Bill and Obama, two of the most charismatic candidates the Democrats have ever put forth. They didn't vote for Gore or Kerry. You even said it yourself, you can't be a weak Democrat. But you sure as hell can be a weak Republican, that's the difference!

How did folks show up for Bill? Bill ain't turn out no progressives. These folks marketed themselves as more conservative.

Dems are all about conforming to the right and Republicans are all about catering to the right, but Dems expect the left to fall in line. It's ass backwards.

When you act like everything is fine, you shouldn't expect folks to show up for you. Bold is what people like to hear.

Apathy is something folks develop. It doesn't just show up. Rethuglicans win Cuz they are still fighting the culture wars and culture wars are easy to take for granted cuz people just get used to it.

Saying but this is the system we have makes folks apathetic. Can't expect to feel obligated to do shyt when life is already ass to em.

 

[ineedsleep212]

Folks are getting more politically engaged now especially here so hopefully we buck the trend by getting these republican-lites the fukk outta here.

 

[hayesc0]

Sigh. Never going to get rid of the old guard this way.

I didn't read the article but to me the solution is simple. With all the convince that technology create they gotta use it to make voting easier. Imagine if you could vote using an app we would get record numbers.

 

[YvrzTrvly]

Fixed for proper perspective.

100

 

[CrimsonTider]

The way we vote is extremely archaic

I think it's by design but that point has to be made

It should be easier to vote