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:mindblown:Why would I give someone benefit of the doubt when the GOLDEN ERA GAVE THE BLUEPRINT ON HOW TO BE GREAT? Do you know what a GOLDEN ERA actually is?

:why:Whats wrong with being stuck in the past? :mindblown:hip-hop is LITERALLY rooted in being stuck in the past. The past is where all the good shyt was happening. Parliament, Issac hayes, james brown. Being stuck in the past is how you find your essence to make something for the future.

:francis:If there is ONE guy to come through, I WOULD KNOW who that one guy is. I can hear something cool in some of these new guys like ASAP Rocky, Ferg, Koondrick, cole. but these guys are not the "One". They might get a spin.

"The One" is Roc Marciano.

respectfully, I can't have this convo with you if you think you don't have to listen to anything new. Particularly the stuff that's making noise in your genre.

I came from that era. I know exactly what you're talking about. I grew up on my dad playing James Brown, Fela, Isaac Hayes, Michael Jackson, all that shyt. I have a massive respect for that music. We're not talking about that.

I'm talking about being informed about what artists are doing now in the genre you claim to love. The best way to stay informed is to actually stay informed. If you're not informed about what's going on in the genre, your opinion is as useless as the new nikka who just wants to turn up.
 

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respectfully, I can't have this convo with you if you think you don't have to listen to anything new. Particularly the stuff that's making noise in your genre.

I came from that era. I know exactly what you're talking about. I grew up on my dad playing James Brown, Fela, Isaac Hayes, Michael Jackson, all that shyt. I have a massive respect for that music. We're not talking about that.

I'm talking about being informed about what artists are doing now in the genre you claim to love. The best way to stay informed is to actually stay informed. If you're not informed about what's going on in the genre, your opinion is as useless as the new nikka who just wants to turn up.
:why:Bro I'm VERY informed about what drake is up to and what he is doing. I'm on the coli post right along with you. Social media as well.

:usure:I'm as up to date with whats going on in this genre as ANYONE.

:ld:Yet I still havent listened to drake, or young thug, or chief keef, or cole, or odd future, or many other new nikkas.

Thats the current state of Rap. I know everything about these rappers and I don't even need to hear their music, because it just simply doesn't stand out:francis:
 

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:childplease:this logic is terrible. If I am a knowledged student of hip hop, why would I need to listen to some rapper other people say are critically acclaimed?

:ufdup:I lived through, witnessed and took part of being in a GOLDEN ERA OF HIP-HOP.

As a person who LIVES HIP-HOP, I can say that His music is not worth my listening pleasure, without giving him a shot at all:francis:
after hearing random verses from dude, he doesnt make music that appeals to me, so there's no reason to go out of my way to tolerate something that I think is wack.
 

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:why:Bro I'm VERY informed about what drake is up to and what he is doing. I'm on the coli post right along with you. Social media as well.

:usure:I'm as up to date with whats going on in this genre as ANYONE.

:ld:Yet I still havent listened to drake, or young thug, or chief keef, or cole, or odd future, or many other new nikkas.

Thats the current state of Rap. I know everything about these rappers and I don't even need to hear their music, because it just simply doesn't stand out:francis:

I get what you're saying. And I partly agree with you. we live in days and times where the artist is selling personality cult and not music. So you can know a ton about an artist and have no reason to check out the music to learn more.

But I also think you're walking a dangerous line. Hip hop is a highly literate, information based culture. Even in its retarded moments. If you're not informed, you lose touch. It's one thing to be informed about the music, you've checked it out, really tried to understand it, and said "nah, this is wack", and it's another thing entirely to be oblivious to the music ("I wont even be bothered with that! fukk that!".

For example... Live.Love.ASAP to me is the most interesting rap album I've heard since 2005. In fact, I've played it so much that it's in my top 10 favorite albums ever (Favorite - I'm not saying it's the best shyt ever. There are lots of better albums). It's like listening to the mellowness of Fantastic Vol 2 mixed with the eerie aggression of Cuban Linx/Liquid Swords. There's production on there I've never heard before in rap, and it's stunningly beautiful to me. I've been listening to rap for a fukking minute.

My love for the album wasn't instant. I had to wrap my head around the shyt. I knew there was something there, but it took a while. Then I got it.

Rap is changing. If you're not informed about what people are doing in the music and more importantly 'why' they're doing it, you'll lose touch.
 

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I get what you're saying. And I partly agree with you. we live in days and times where the artist is selling personality cult and not music. So you can know a ton about an artist and have no reason to check out the music to learn more.

But I also think you're walking a dangerous line. Hip hop is a highly literate, information based culture. Even in its retarded moments. If you're not informed, you lose touch. It's one thing to be informed about the music, you've checked it out, really tried to understand it, and said "nah, this is wack", and it's another thing entirely to be oblivious to the music ("I wont even be bothered with that! fukk that!".

For example... Live.Love.ASAP to me is the most interesting rap album I've heard since 2005. In fact, I've played it so much that it's in my top 10 favorite albums ever (Favorite - I'm not saying it's the best shyt ever. There are lots of better albums). It's like listening to the mellowness of Fantastic Vol 2 mixed with the eerie aggression of Cuban Linx/Liquid Swords. There's production on there I've never heard before in rap, and it's stunningly beautiful to me. I've been listening to rap for a fukking minute.

My love for the album wasn't instant. I had to wrap my head around the shyt. I knew there was something there, but it took a while. Then I got it.

Rap is changing. If you're not informed about what people are doing in the music and more importantly 'why' they're doing it, you'll lose touch.
I see we are making some grounds in this discussion.

But lets be honest. We are all witnessing the transformation before our eyes. Because of the "inside the Rappers studio" generation we live in, we are all privey to what these rappers are doing, especially on the coli, where you can click a popular thread with concert footage, interviews, music videos, or just something completely random. We are there with these rappers.

We can't lie and say we haven't heard some of Drakes music. But to sit here and waste time on material I already know what to expect is disingenuous to my taste that I know to be well in tune.

And to compare ANYTHING CURRENT to Fantastic vol 2 is blasphemy.
 

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I see we are making some grounds in this discussion.

But lets be honest. We are all witnessing the transformation before our eyes. Because of the "inside the Rappers studio" generation we live in, we are all privey to what these rappers are doing, especially on the coli, where you can click a popular thread with concert footage, interviews, music videos, or just something completely random. We are there with these rappers.

We can't lie and say we haven't heard some of Drakes music. But to sit here and waste time on material I already know what to expect is disingenuous to my taste that I know to be well in tune.

Fair enough. For example, I've never heard a Big Sean album. and I never will.
a) because the dude is trashbags and
b) (this is the more important one) he's a singles artist. Not an album artist. Album artists attempt deeper material and their music tends to be more atmospheric. so you have to listen to the whole album to get the 'statement'. Singles artists are about partying and fluff. You'll hear the singles anyway. No one needs to dig through an entire album of garbage-ass fluff.

Drake is an album artist. Despite what it seems on the cover. And if people say "yo, these are the guys dropping great hip hop albums today", I'ma check them out. I may not listen to all of them, but I'll definitely check their best work out. Because there might be something unique about it. even if it's not done really well.

And to compare ANYTHING CURRENT to Fantastic vol 2 is blasphemy.

Bruh, Live.Love.ASAP is exactly like Fantastic Vol 2.
a) Both contain some of the best beats I've ever heard in my life
b) Both have a strong sense of atmosphere (which is crucial to making a classic album)
c) Both feature rappers that coast completely on their flows and charisma with filler rhymes.
d) Both have the producers as unsung heroes of the album. For Fantastic, it's Dilla. For LiveLoveASAP, it's Clams Casino.
 

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I can't look to waffle colored Canadians for my hip-hop :scust:

Truth.

The only song I could possibly "name" is the one where he's like "D stands for do right and kill everything" or something, and it's only because it got played to death by the chick I was with at the time.

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First album i ever listened to all the way through was NWTS....

I tried Take Care at least 6 times and couldn't get through it.... in 2012


2 years later and it took me 5 more attempts to get through it


Never cared for Thank Me Later

This latest one is a just a lazy throwaway project with one decent song....
 

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Never. Not that he's bad from what I've heard of him (Yes, I've never heard a Drake cd at all) but he's just not interesting to me
 
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