Raiders are favorites to trade for Jim Harbaugh

[Trip]

jets in 2008: 9-7
jets in 2007: 4-12

niners in 2010: 6-10
niners in 2009: 8-8

whats the difference ?

Well the Niners are still a good football team for one.

Also the Jets went on a wild spending spree before 08

 

[yseJ]

You're right. 8 year playoff drought featuring 4 different coaches, Harbaugh comes on and they IMMEDIATELY go to the conference championship game and he has nothing to do with it.

I didnt say he had nothing to do it. its not fukking binary, dumbass
he had a good amount to do with it, but a lot of it was talent and a lot of it was defensive coaches he brought in

 

[Born2BKing]

You're right. 8 year playoff drought featuring 4 different coaches, Harbaugh comes on and they IMMEDIATELY go to the conference championship game and he has nothing to do with it.



Your question is dumb because you're entire premise is dumb. You said "what do the last 3 years have to do with this year" after using this year as evidence why he can't get to the playoffs in the next 2 years.

That's called arguing for the sake of arguing. I'm no longer listening to you.

Mafukka, do you not realize talent is key in the NFL? I asked if he could do that with the raiders talent and you go back to what he did with a much more talented 49ers team.

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I didnt say he had nothing to do it. its not fukking binary, dumbass
he had a good amount to do with it, but a lot of it was talent and a lot of it was defensive coaches he brought in

Mafukka, do you not realize talent is key in the NFL? I asked if he could do that with the raiders talent and you go back to what he did with a much more talented 49ers team.

Every team has talent. This is the NFL. The difference between the good teams and the not good teams is coaching.

You 2 need to talk to each other, not me. @yseJ is saying the Niners had talent but for some reason couldn't get to the playoffs. Then all of a sudden, they're in 3 straight NFC championship games.

It's really on me for conversing with 2 idiots.

@yseJ I'd like to introduce you to @Born2BKing. I think you 2 have a lot in common.

Good day, gentlemen.

 

[yseJ]

Well the Niners are still a good football team for one.

Also the Jets went on a wild spending spree before 08

rex had the jets playing well in first 3 years, then it fell apart
niners could very well be on the same path if they retain harbaugh

heres a thing, I dont mind harbaugh staying as long as he fires a bunch of offensive coaches. the problem with that is jim is not john, hes very stubborn and wont ever do that.

the offense is stagnating, the dumb penalties and delay of game/TO and clock ticking down till 0, giving defenses great time to get set and release, all that bullshyt, has been plaguing the offense since 2012. nothing done about it.

if there are no changes, team is about to spin into jets territory down the road, the only thing stopping them is excellent defense. theres already a schism between GM and harbaugh.

 

[Trip]

rex had the jets playing well in first 3 years, then it fell apart
niners could very well be on the same path if they retain harbaugh

heres a thing, I dont mind harbaugh staying as long as he fires a bunch of offensive coaches. the problem with that is jim is not john, hes very stubborn and wont ever do that.

the offense is stagnating, the dumb penalties and delay of game/TO and clock ticking down till 0, giving defenses great time to get set and release, all that bullshyt, has been plaguing the offense since 2012. nothing done about it.

if there are no changes, team is about to spin into jets territory down the road, the only thing stopping them is excellent defense. theres already a schism between GM and harbaugh.

I think you're overreacting....and I think your owner sounds like a spoiled idiot. Niners can still make the playoffs anyways.

 

[yseJ]

You 2 need to talk to each other, not me. @yseJ is saying the Niners had talent but for some reason couldn't get to the playoffs. Then all of a sudden, they're in 3 straight NFC championship games.
.

no thats not what Im saying at all. you make conclusions based off my posts that dont make sense at all

Harbaugh brought in a great defensive coordinator in vic fangio.
the following talent has been acquired or has been started in the first year of harbaughs era:

aldon smith
navorro bowman
ahmad brooks
carlos rogers
donte whitner

thats two all-pros and 5 pro bowlers replacing

manny lawson
takeo spikes
parys haralson
shawntae spencer
reggie smith

that spurred an amazing defense in 2011, which propelled the Niners far into playoffs
the great defense won games for the niners and is STILL winning games for the niners to this day

 

[yseJ]

I think you're overreacting....and I think your owner sounds like a spoiled idiot. Niners can still make the playoffs anyways.

lets be real, if harbaugh was a defensive mind you probably wouldnt care for him just like you didnt care for rex even when jets were going deep into the offs

 

[Reggie]

No matter who the Raiders get it's going to take a while to change that losing mentality that they have. Harbaugh will be successful if he goes there but i think it takes a while to get to the level that he is used to.

 

[Trip]

lets be real, if harbaugh was a defensive mind you probably wouldnt care for him just like you didnt care for rex even when jets were going deep into the offs

Harbaugh's a Head Coach- he's a program builder. Rex is a DC who's woefully unorganized as a HC. It's not a coincidence all of the Jets good assistants left and the Jets have become a joke. Rex just doesn't know what he's doing.

Harbaugh's a football mind...Rex is a defensive coordinator.

 

[yseJ]

this harbaugh crying reminds me when mariucci was leaving SF. while being a great players coach mooch was working off seiferts baggage and when baggage started running thin the team wasnt doing as well.

thats the last thing we've heard about mooch being a 'great' coach. didnt do shyt anywhere else and peacefully retired

but dumb people who werent watching Niners game just see records. and they will think mariucci was actually a great coach

 

[yseJ]

Harbaugh's a Head Coach- he's a program builder. Rex is a DC who's woefully unorganized as a HC. It's not a coincidence all of the Jets good assistants left and the Jets have become a joke. Rex just doesn't know what he's doing.

Harbaugh's a football mind...Rex is a defensive coordinator.

which defensive coaches do you consider good HCs besides ?

 

[Trip]

which defensive coaches do you consider good HCs besides ?

Carroll, Pettine..there aren't many at the moment .... The other Harbaugh's a great HC but was a ST coach. I guess Tomlin's ok.

 

[yseJ]

Carroll, Pettine..there aren't many at the moment .... The other Harbaugh's a great HC but was a ST coach. I guess Tomlin's ok.

fair nuff...Ill tell you what, if harbs takes fangio with him (I hope to god not) if/when hes gone, Id want us to go for rex as DC

 

[Trip]

fair nuff...Ill tell you what, if harbs takes fangio with him (I hope to god not) if/when hes gone, Id want us to go for rex as DC

Rex is a great DC