serious discussion: Drake HAS to be an industry plant, no?

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"Sorry flex, This is my First Media coming out, I got you next time"-Drake freestyling from a questionable blackberry but not finishing



this shows how much of an actor he is on some real shyt
check how he begins his verses like "yeah what i say" and all that extra hype like he wasn't reading instead tried to sell that it was authentic when it really wasn't and if the camera wasn't in the studio at the time you would have thought that this nikka was just in there spitting without that bb and then when he got caught off guard and couldn't find a email or text or whatever it was that was being sent fast enough to match the beat its "I'm not gonna give em everything":stopitslime:

i don't know about a plant but i can see him getting pushed and then you gotta think why is that though
i never understood the purpose of a plant as y'all would say it cause at the end of the day is it just about the money aspect or is it they really just wanna take over hip hop
and a plant can't grow without the proper things needed and in this case an audience and then who's the real blame

and you know whats crazy is his albums really fukking suck to me i listen to some of his shyt when he is spitting i think the nikka is nice I tried to listen to all his albums and really couldn't at all not one of them and I'm not talking mixtapes I'm saying his albums
 
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  1. Now that his credibility as a spitter is gone, let's talk foreal. I've never seen some shyt like this: ever.
  2. I don't know if people really understand how bad this is for the genre as a whole.
  3. Like I said, in the past I :troll: 'd drake fans on this board just for fun. IRL I listened to him. I just knew how soft his fans were and how much they so I used to do little :troll: shyt to anger @ISOMELO and the rest of them. Just flat out being anti Drake on everything and watching them accuse me of insanity while I got the nikka in my ear sometimes :mjlol:

    With this though? I'm not trolling. This is actually problem. This Is seriously not good for Hip Hop. The biggest rapper in the world has been exposed for having ghostwriters and you got a whole bunch of people moving the goal posts AFTER they hear a reference track which he copied word for word. Not only that, but seeing how the masses, celebrities, news reporters, companies, all :cape: without even a second thought. These are the same people who normally love to tear rappers down. They destroyed Kanye for that Taylor Swift incident.

    The same media that always talks about how negative hip hop is. White people :cape: for someone who raps about drugs, strippers, guns and uses the word "nikka" more than any rapper in history.

    There's something behind that. Not even on some conspiracy theory shyt. There has to be something there. It's unheard of. That's deeper than music. Those Jewish connects gotta be real, or he's just someone who they want to remain the face of a black genre.

    Think about it, you didn't see ONE negative article about him at all during this whole shyt. Not one. Not one journalist took the chance to slander him. Every Hip Hop station, website, everyone flat out :cape:

    I've never seen some shyt like that. I've never seen the industry or better yet a group of different industries cape in unison for someone like that. Ever.

    Dude really was a plant the whole time. It's the only thing that makes sense. From his rapid ascension, to their refusal to let him fall. He's a plant. Right?
That's what I've been thinking this entire time. Its big money invested into this plant. Pussify the masses and rewrite history by callin him a MC that makes "hits". Its sad what the rap game has become. Yea we have mc s and underground and all that. But when u have a top guy who supposedly is the face of rap now being called out for not writing his shyt it's insane.

The industry has been dictating our culture since its fruition. As soon as a record deal got made its been downhill ever since. They shut down consciousness completely by sayin the fans dont want it. The fans dont dictate what gets played. They get programmed. The entertainment industry can make u a star and break u down in the same breath. I remember when the fans would say get that shyt outta here. We live in a PC culture where everyone is so fukkin sensitive. You cant have a respectful oponion without being called a hater.

We dont respect our legends. We call them irrelevant becauee they're not on the sesame street station. I gave up on this mainstream shyt a long time ago.
 

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:patrice: are you saying they are tying to make ghostwriting acceptable or they are not trying to make gay people acceptable in rap because gay people have no culture?

Both, they want ghostwriting and guys to be acceptable in a culture built on knowledge of self.
to be be receptive and accepting of the very thing we are against.
which is disco/house/edm/rnb/ and the gay community attached to it.

When hiphop is completely juxtaposed entirely.


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I know it hurts to hear but a lot of us just don't care who writes the songs, we just want something that sounds good. Meek may write all his shyt but to me it's still yelling nonsense. It doesn't sound good to me.

I don't care about the process, the journey, authenticity, or whatever you want to call it, i only care for the end product. If them behind the scene dudes aren't good enough to sing the song then i have no problem with Drake, Kanye, or anyone else singing it.


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They need to plant some more if he is

There is fifteen years worth of emo rap just like drake to listen too.
that shyt he makes isn't new.
if you want atmospheric go listen to Depeche mode ultra, nine and Portishead bjork and tricky.
none of what Drake makes is néw.
It is all old ripoff of shyt like Louis logic and slug with mainstream tones and content.
mixed with triphop that already failed to sell.
to the point drake's sales really aren't impactful.
they are boom boom shake the room at best.



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Dawg. Even 50 back in 09 was talking about it



"They're spending money"

"They're making the public think it's just happening"

"it's not organic"


100% correct and he probably knows deep inside he should have probably try to entice a Drake-type person to sign with him. I greatly respect 50 in the aspect of business (don't let the bankruptcy fool you). I'm sure he knows the power of the industry as well as anyone since he's been a rapper, brand, and worked in an executive level.
 

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I Listened to pandora and radio heavy all through college middle of last decade. Didn't know who drake was until 2009 by way of the radio for best I ever had and saw his name pop up in sohh.

Everbody and they mama had whack verses when the south blew up middle of last decade....drake couldn't make a feature on a random snap track? Why was drake not on carter 3? I woke up one day and the radio going crazy about drake in 2009 and the mentioning he had a song with trey songz back in the day...and then he's on blueprint 3.

Cause when nelly dropped country grammar out of know where in 2000 I spoke about it word of mouth on Napster chat... and it had to gain organic steam and his album was just his people. It seems like drake was hott the flip of a switch and then featured on everything 2009 and then on.
 

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I HATE DRAKE'S GAYNESS MORE THAN THE NEXT MUFUCCA, BUT I DONT SEE WHY PEEPS ARE SURPRISED HE DONT WRITE HIS OWN LYRICS AND/OR HAS GHOSTWRITERS...CATS REALLY TRYNA BLOW IT UP INTO SOME CAREER ENDING SHIIT? I THOUGHT IT WAS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT A MAJORITY OF RAPPERS OUT THERE HAVE GHOSTWRITERS.......SHIIT, EVEN CATS LIKE SNOOP, EAZY-E, DR. DRE, DAZ ETC. HAVE ALL BEEN KNOWN FOR HAVING GHOSTWRITERS AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER....I MEAN, DAMN, ONE OF EAZY'S MOST POPULAR RHYMES WAS "ICE CUBE WRITES THE RHYMES THAT I SAY"....THIS SHIIT IS NOTHIN NEW, I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY PEEPS IS TRIPPIN OVER GAYASS DRAKE WHO MAKES SAPPY GIRL MUSIC, LIKE THIS IS SOME HUGE REVELATION AND SOMETHIN THATS NEVER BEEN SEEN IN RAP MUSIC. SMH, RELAX FOLKS
 
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