serious discussion: Drake HAS to be an industry plant, no?
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especially the bolded
Folks are being lenient because the golden jew has million dollar corporations, connections and a major conglomerate behind him. I bet you had somebody like Lil Mama would have gotten exposed for having ghostwriters. Every rap nikka would have their chest poked out
Stop being a dikkriding faggit.
Trey Songz was a professional recording artist in 2007 with two albums out nikka. He came out in 2005.
This song came out three months before Comeback Season but, Trey Songz was some unknown guy
Little Brother were a respected indie group. They released a couple albums.
Kardinal was a local rap legend in Toronto.
Lil Wayne....enough said
Rich Boy was (hot) one hit wonder in 2007 too
This was Drake's second mixtape. How many struggling rappers have money to pay these all celebrities on their second homemade mixtape
jwonder
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It's been dead for years. All these cats are plants to water it down and take out real hip hop.what can we say
hip hop is pretty much dead at this point. all folks care about is if the song sounds good or not.
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
Stop being a dikkriding faggit.
Trey Songz was a professional recording artist in 2007 with two albums out nikka. He came out in 2005.
This song came out three months before Comeback Season but, Trey Songz was some unknown guy
Little Brother were a respected indie group. They released a couple albums.
Kardinal was a local rap legend in Toronto.
Lil Wayne....enough said
Rich Boy was (hot) one hit wonder in 2007 too
This was Drake's second mixtape. How many struggling rappers have money to pay these all celebrities on their second homemade mixtape
How much did those Trey albums sell first week? Trey wasn't TREY till he cut them braids. Not to mention Drake be-friended Trey at a videoshoot.
Little Brother was established and so was Slum Village I'm a fan of both but you think you can't get some money and pay for Phonte and Elzhi features and a 9th beat? Drake had Degrassi money. You really think these are expensive features? There's Coli rappers with industry features c'mon. Did you not see the white boy with the Jadakiss feature?
Lil Wayne is not on CS why do nikkas keep saying this?
He was on Man of The Year with Flo Rida. Drake remixed the song and kept Wayne's verse like he did with Kick, Push and Lupe on RFI.
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onelastdeath
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How much did those Trey albums sell first week? Trey wasn't TREY till he cut them braids. Not to mention Drake be-friended Trey at a videoshoot.
Little Brother was established and so was Slum Village I'm a fan of both but you think you can't get some money and pay for Phonte and Elzhi features and a 9th beat? Drake had Degrassi money. You really think these are expensive features? There's Coli rappers with industry features c'mon. Did you not see the white boy with the Jadakiss feature?
Lil Wayne is not on CS why do nikkas keep saying this?
He was on Man of The Year with Flo Rida. Drake remixed the song and kept Wayne's verse like he did with Kick, Push and Lupe on RFI.
How is a child actor turned singer/rapper a plant? If you didn't know that from the jump you're an idiot. The fact dude has actually fooled people into thinking he's a dope mc is the crazier thing to me.
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
Let the Coli tell it
-Trey Songz was a superstar in '06-'07 like his album didn't sell 70,000 copies first week when hip hop/R&B was still selling. Chris Brown was crushing Trey at this time. Trey did plenty of features at this time many with regional Southern artists.
He was an upcoming star not some unreachable superstar. Dudes in here acting like it's '09. Like I said he and Drake became acquaintances.
-Phonte, Elzhi and 9th Wonder beat how could he possibly get them.
Like they didn't come from relatively underground, backpacking hip hop groups. I'm not sure Phonte or Elzhi even command $10,000 for features. Act like a child actor from the Toronto suburbs can't afford to pay features brehs.
-Lil Wayne did not record on CS tell me I'm lying?
-Trey Songz was a superstar in '06-'07 like his album didn't sell 70,000 copies first week when hip hop/R&B was still selling. Chris Brown was crushing Trey at this time. Trey did plenty of features at this time many with regional Southern artists.
He was an upcoming star not some unreachable superstar. Dudes in here acting like it's '09. Like I said he and Drake became acquaintances.
-Phonte, Elzhi and 9th Wonder beat how could he possibly get them.
Like they didn't come from relatively underground, backpacking hip hop groups. I'm not sure Phonte or Elzhi even command $10,000 for features. Act like a child actor from the Toronto suburbs can't afford to pay features brehs.
-Lil Wayne did not record on CS tell me I'm lying?
onelastdeath
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:cacop:Let the Coli tell it
-Trey Songz was a superstar in '06-'07 like his album didn't sell 70,000 copies first week when hip hop/R&B was still selling. Chris Brown was crushing Trey at this time. Trey did plenty of features at this time many with regional Southern artists.
He was an upcoming star not some unreachable superstar. Dudes in here acting like it's '09. Like I said he and Drake became acquaintances.
-Phonte, Elzhi and 9th Wonder beat how could he possibly get them.
Like they didn't come from relatively underground, backpacking hip hop groups. I'm not sure Phonte or Elzhi even command $10,000 for features. Act like a child actor from the Toronto suburbs can't afford to pay features brehs.
-Lil Wayne did not record on CS tell me I'm lying?
Renegade47
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Thing is all the people you named arent viewed as the best or claim to be top 5. Drake acting like he king hell he being pushed like he is look at that cringeworthy sprite billboard they got that nikka up there with rap gods. Its disgusting.
SNOOP WAS A TOP 5 IN HIS PRIME .. AND ANYTHIN HE SPIT IN THE EARLY 90S SHIITS ON ANYTHIN DRAKE HAS EVER PUT OUT
lets address this, Why make Ghostwriting acceptable? and why Plant a Decent to good actor(actress) in Hip Hop(popular music)?
I've told yall this before. but as usual yall aint listening. to stuck on "i'm feeling this dude though.." to hear what i'm telling you.
The same reason the south is running hiphop is the same reason they love drake as a plant.
the south = subpar talent, making child level hooks that everyone can repeat on que, so people get hyped and buy the single(not the album, the single for most of these dudes, some albums for a very small portion of them).
The reason the Labels like this is because its easy to replace one.
Some of yall are to you to remember, but i remembered after Pac and Big was gone early on. Then Pun was gone. I remember How the game had a serious VOID in it. And these labels were literally chasing after anything and anyone who reminded them of those two dudes. this is why there were multiple pac clones and multiple biggie clones.
But they just couldnt pull it off. no one stepped up to the plate and became either of those guys. Jay slid in and did his own thing. he was neither pac, nor big. EM did his thing, 50 came thru and crushed the buildings, but again he was neither of those 2.
They were still looking for the next big and pac for years. until they realized it was an impossible thing to do. its organic. these guys come around every 10 years or so. and you have to be that A&R, or that homeboy who knows someone from the label or a DJ that knows someone. that puts you up on Biggie, Pac, etc. and you have to groom these dudes. pac wasnt always pac the ultra mega star and neither was big on his party & bull.... type music.
the labels got real lazy with looking for talent, and they got lazier with grooming talent. This means pac and big may never be found and groomed properly.
So now what? Fine artists that you can duplicate just in case one goes to jail, dies, or just stops rapping. You can wash, rinse, repeat with most southern rappers right now. thats a fact. one goes, another one pops up. that one goes, another one pops up. same sound, same cadence in their flow. same beats.
Here comes Drake. and actor, thats "WHITE" skinned. not even light skin to some white people. He has a nice little flow. he can hold a note. and he isnt so caught up in his craft that he's telling big wigs "i write my own ishh". He's like whoever you want to put me with for the better song. Fine by me. if you need me to do A, i'll do A, B, i'll do B. The advertisers know he's safe. because he was already on a TV show and he never got into any nonsense. whats the worse drake can do, get punched by an old 90's label head named diddy. nothing he started or finished. no one gets shot, no one gets jumped. no one even gets pushed. lol. Perfect label plant. he can act his way until he gets a hang of it. and thats exactly what he did. I told yall on SOHH. that his raps and singing was subpar when they pushed him on us. i said dude may be good one day. but not today and how is it that the professional labels are pushing an amateur on us like this? They had plans for dude. thats how/why.
It was disrespectful to all of the mixtape rappers that have been rapping for years that sound like PROS but they just need that break. and they pass all of them over for an actor that raps a little on the side and half sings.
They can go find another actor, throw him some bars and if he sings too( a lot of actors/actresses can sing a little bit, its apart of the artform of acting and being in plays growing up.) and next thing you know. we got the next drake once he falls off. Wash, rinse, repeat. it wont be that long 10 year gap like it was after big and pac.
Amphibious
Land, water, wherever.
The industry plant trio in this video has insane power.
you're confusing some things. Yes everyone has ghost writers on some songs. dont name eazy e, dr dre, daz, all 3 of those guys are not considered rappers, rappers. Daz is a producer that rapped(of course he is going to get someone to write for him if need be he's worried about the music, same with Dre. Easy was pushed to rap because the rest of the crew(NWA) thought eazy had a great rapping voice for that era. which he did. so they gave him raps. Eazy was not around trying to be some fake rapper that lied about who wrote his songs. the only reason cube exposed him with snippet "ice cube write's the rhymes that i say..." is because NWA was talking real greasy about cube. He had to remind people, That he was the reason eazy the rapper was created. him and Ren. but Eazy to my knowledge never lied and said he wrote all of his rhymes. it was well known from day 2, not 1, but 2 that ren and cube wrote for him.
it was well known that dre had writers. dre never denied this. snoop would tell you he had help. he use to be freestyle and not be able to make whole songs. he said this himself. thats why pooh and DOC would help him write stuff. along with others.
but there has never been a time on this planet where you couldnt shove a mic in snoops face when he was Big and say "SPIT SOMETHING" and he freeze up. like drake did back when he was first coming out blazing hot. Thats because snoop is/was a real mcee.