So who is looking to sign up for "Obamacare" in about 2 weeks?

[DPresidential]

WOOOOOOOOOW.

LMAOOOOIOO

 

[DEAD7]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...1eb05a-719e-11e3-8b3f-b1666705ca3b_story.html

$90 million more

 

[Piff Perkins]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...1eb05a-719e-11e3-8b3f-b1666705ca3b_story.html

$90 million more

Good. Now they need to hire a competent person to run this shyt, and fire Sebelius.

I'm very surprised at how well the thing rebounded after the fall out. Already past the 2mil mark signed up for private insurance, and if you add the Medicaid sign ups, kids staying on their parents plan until the age 26, and the people signed up for exchanges directly by insurance company, a little over 10 million people have coverage due to the law. Pretty impressive.

 

[newarkhiphop]

got me another raise at work cause of the ACA, thanks Obama

 

[Bigen King]

signed up online

got my healthcare card in the mail a few weeks ago while your ignorant nikkahs still feeding into that C@C bs running around with no healthcare

mah nikkah obama came thru

 

[Piff Perkins]

I have employer insurance so I'm not checking for this, but a few of my friends have benefited. It has survived the roll out disaster, now republicans are scared. Folks keep signing up...this isn't going anywhere brehs. It'll never be repealed. The question will become "how do we make the law better."

 

[same damn lo sweater]

holy fukk is this shyt confusing. the signup process was a huge pain in the ass, and now i'm getting brochures from 2 different companies. i'm not patient enough to read thru this garbage. i'm trying to find a new therapist, and get my mental health in order. but these mf's keep playing

 

[No1]

holy fukk is this shyt confusing. the signup process was a huge pain in the ass, and now i'm getting brochures from 2 different companies. i'm not patient enough to read thru this garbage. i'm trying to find a new therapist, and get my mental health in order. but these mf's keep playing

You probably have the option of choosing between the two companies.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

holy fukk is this shyt confusing. the signup process was a huge pain in the ass, and now i'm getting brochures from 2 different companies. i'm not patient enough to read thru this garbage. i'm trying to find a new therapist, and get my mental health in order. but these mf's keep playing

they keep playing but you're not patient enough to read about the policies you're PAYING for

 

[tru_m.a.c]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...1eb05a-719e-11e3-8b3f-b1666705ca3b_story.html

$90 million more

90mil is chump change

 

[tru_m.a.c]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-02/another-problem-obamacare-won-t-solve-health-costs.html

a liberal site at that

no way….

a discussion on medicaid patients utilizing ER that doesn't discuss available PCP options. I'm so, surprised.

The article is defining the problem with analyzing the ACA through the lens of cost, while arguing against expense. Hence using the ER utilization rates as an example: Lower the expense of ER use, raise the total cost due to over utilization.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

What's the 411 on the fines? I haven't registered. this bullshyt.

well i tried to register a week late and the site for my state still isn't working. hmm...i guess i get fined? it's not like i have any money anyway.

you're not late for registration

MARCH 31, 2014: Under the ACA, all Americans must have health insurance, and this is the latest date you can acquire it if you wish to avoid paying a penalty on your 2014 income tax. Some individuals will be exempt from penalties, including, as of last week, people whose policies were canceled because their plans’ benefits did not meet new ACA standards of adequacy.

Another date that has drawn attention but, in my view, doesn’t matter as much:

JANUARY 1, 2014: This is not a deadline so much as an opportunity. It is the first day, when, if you signed up in time (now December 24 for the federal website, but a few states have later deadlines)—and paid your premium in time (at the administration’s urging, many insurers are allowing a grace period through January 10 for the federally run marketplaces and some states have also moved this date)—you could enjoy the subsidized coverage available under the ACA. But if you miss these so-called deadlines, you still have until March 31 to sign up for coverage to avoid a penalty.

 

[Richard Wright]

So it looks like the smart people here have been right so far. Obamacare didnt have to be good legislation to be successful. The number of people to be insured is very encouraging.

Even though the ACA doesnt affect me because I already have insurance, the issue I have with it is I dont understand how everyone buying insurance helps a transition to a single payer system. And I thought that was the end goal.

 

[No1]

So it looks like the smart people here have been right so far. Obamacare didnt have to be good legislation to be successful. The number of people to be insured is very encouraging.

Even though the ACA doesnt affect me because I already have insurance, the issue I have with it is I dont understand how everyone buying insurance helps a transition to a single payer system. And I thought that was the end goal.

Because it also allows for states to experiment with their own single payer plans if they so choose. Right now places like Vermont are finding out that it's more costly and harder to do than they expected. Also, it will provide valuable data. One of the proposals at the time was to extend medicaid and medicare to the the late 40s to 50s crowd (the group just outside of the range) for 10 years and study that data as means of determining costs. From there a single payer plan would be derived. But of course the lobbyists beat that back. Regardless, if all this information from exchanges can be analyzed, then you'll be in a better position to transition to a single payer plan and you would have a better idea of potential costs so you'll know how to ration things (because all healthcare systems partake in rationing).

 

[Piff Perkins]

So it looks like the smart people here have been right so far. Obamacare didnt have to be good legislation to be successful. The number of people to be insured is very encouraging.

Even though the ACA doesnt affect me because I already have insurance, the issue I have with it is I dont understand how everyone buying insurance helps a transition to a single payer system. And I thought that was the end goal.

The transition will come in two ways: states creating their own single payer systems, and through the exchange market. Allowing anyone to purchase Medicare would completely transform the market and force private insurance companies to lower their prices even more to compete with Medicare.

Exchanges+Medicaid expansion are really the first step. Medicare for all is the second. It's not going to happen for a few more election cycles though, based on how many democrats are in the pocket of insurance companies. Medicare for all would be the beginning of the end of private insurance in the United States. It's going to happen in our lifetime.